Various Shows

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[b]Sikke van der Veen wrote: [/b]

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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]



No need for the sarcasm.  Let's focus on the subject at hand.

What are your plans for the Detroit recording, and why shouldn't this one be at the top of the priority list, if you want to do something helpful for the community?


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Yes I do believe there is need for sarcasm as you do it as well... My englisgh is quite bad... so what's your age 22 ? Just a gues... Last explain, if you had approx 850-950 cdr's shows from which is 90% packed as a 2cd set in garage.Which are all un labeled or marked... could you find it ? Come over to my place and I give you 1 weekend in my garage. If you find you find the things you are looking for then I'l pay your ticket and hotel...as an ashole ass you I don;t want to sleep over anywhere near 10miles from my home!

So fuck up with your sarcasm as well... I take some boxes to upsstairs and digitilise those bastards I;m willing to share the motherfuckers here...and if you don;t like them fuck off... I'd ratheer share at the Hub.

Sorry for you bob if been arround since 1993 as a die hard tape collector.... I don;t need yeed to read my lessons.... so fuck off.... please... and don;t try to think for me as you did before ... make love to celine dion you toronto fucker!

My last and final explain to the great sperior UBER FUHRER BOB , I have the cdr;s stored more than 850 of the fucking them I will digitalise them piece by piece. Wat I retrieve first is the cdr;s which are in the most grabable boxes.... NOthig is labbeled or have a note of their containment.... at least there are 5 sun city shows beteen them , a likelely removed from tapers traders list detroit 7 show and a remaster master bootleg from leiden 86 tape is in there... My personla gues you are just a person which is fighting for lve by women for years.. The thing i like to say I;m not a single person , have a famlily including kids and dogs... so don;t have the wanker free time you have avaible! And if you be deligthed then share the new york 76 video or puebla or monterry .... come on you;re a wanting bastard... do it!

Hope for you this last explainment is obvious for you!


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[i]Well it seems I´m not the only one person that a "certain" user has problems with,a couple of weeks ago I received a PM saying in a non-friendly way that as somebody had put Sun City I [b]have to [/b]put my Mar Del Plata recording,if I don´t put it I should remain calm and I will [b]never[/b] listen to some recordings he has that I [b]would die for([/b]these are the exact words I was told) is this the way things work here?if you don´t post something you are a "liar" or a "waste of sperm" as I was called,I don´t know if this person got the shows in his garage or not but is it a [b]MUST[/b] to post them here?do elite traders post there treasures for free?no(and they [b]DON´T HAVE[/b] to do so!)good to see new recording every day but pay attention that some time ago many things were posted here before anywhere else,now you see them first on thetrader´s den,dimeadozen,etc,with some people arrogant and bully behaviour I understand why.And to you....SIRE...I don´t need your "treasures"...wait a moment....you said you had a lot of rare things I would die to listen to?you might have Detroit 77 or 5 Sun City shows or a soundboard form Leiden 86!!come on share them with us!!![/i]

Hey folks,

after reading the last posts I think everybody should close the door and stay alone with his rarities.
If we are living in times with 1st class recordings wich are not allowed or wanted to be shared and 2nd class recordings which were signed as shows no-one wants to be shared because it happened so often before, then we have to face it how it is.
I for myself don't give a damn for recordings people (possibly) have, when they call me a motherfucker or barking like dogs to other members. I don't want to waste my time with begging for shares or reading threads and comments like this again and again. At least I don't care for PM's somebody wrote to someone (PM explains itself)
For those posts and finally threads we have a nice word here in Germany, we call it KINDERGARTEN.

Calm down
W.

This discussion is getting ridiculous and out of subject. We're not here to judge Bob or anyone else !!! this is called "Various shows" and is about sikke's collection, so please avoid this endless discussion, do that privately if you prefer. By the way, what Bob or anyone told you via Pm isn't interesting for everyone and has nothing to do with this discussion. I mean, I don't try to take defense for Bob, I was just visiting this forum and this perticular thread to read a nice discussion about these recordings, and suddenly everybody shouts louder than the other one, throw stones and show guns and things like that.


STOP GUYS !!!!!!!!


Please, dear Sikke, let's come back to normal discussion; avoid this useless discussion, maybe you don't like one or another or me or your neighbour, but please everyone, THIS NIS NOT THE TOPIC HERE !!


Thanks everyone.


** waving a white flag ** (a Yara-like post, isn't it ?)


A good lot of rarities were shared here, so I don't see why this couldn't continue. We just had a marvellous start of year, and my guess is it is not over. I don't see why Sikkes would stop sharing because of one or two members, i don't get the point. The fact he would prefer keeping that for private trades is another story, he might just say so and that would be OK to the great majority of people here. A little sad as this forum now deserves having new recordings popping up here and there, but still, OK.


Regards,

Olivier,
Belgium.

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[b]Mr. Scully wrote: [/b]

I've heard many rumours about various existing recordings in the past 10 years. Yes, some were even supposed to be in Sikke's collection. But I've never heard any sample and I don't even know anybody who has. So at the moment I don't think we'll ever hear Detroit or Leiden soundboard or anything like that. Of course, I wish I was wrong...[/QUOTE]
I could add even more 'alleged' rarities:

- Cleveland 1977 SBD (master copy)
- Liverpool 1977 SBD

I just love digging up old MSN conversations. I was quite ignorant in those days believing everything the sacred Sikke said.

Unfortunately, his only capacity thus far is talking gibberish. Well he has more, but I better not elaborate on those. :-)

Sikke, I'm willing to go through hours and hours of tapes and cd's to check out what's on it.
That way we'll know you're not lying and you don't have to do all the work yourself.

The only thing I'd like to ask you is to show more respect for Sir GH and to keep it cool. No need to shout and get agressive. He just asks simple questions and means well.

And Tiger: don't use this opportunity to demonize Bob.  His site is(together with queenconcerts)THE site about Queen live and he has shared so many great things with us.  If you can't appreciate that you're not supposed to be here...

[i]Who cares about his site?does this allows him to insult or say what I have to do?come on.[/i]

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[b]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/b]

[i]Who cares about his site?does this allows him to insult or say what I have to do?come on.[/i][/QUOTE]

Out of topic... Please, come on everyone !!!

before all... i`m not a great uploader... all i have is from here, dime, ttd, tpb or trade... but... i`m a good leecheer.

anyway... i wish to see this forum like dime, u2torrents, or better than others communities...

the point is...why is the problem to upload the "rare" tapes?

why is the problem to upload upgrades?

why is the problem to share uncirculated masters??

i don`t know why!!!!

it`s so easy... it would be the best to this forum!!!

cheers... and sorry for my bad english... i hope you understand me

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[b]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/b]

[i]Who cares about his site?does this allows him to insult or say what I have to do?come on.[/i][/QUOTE]
Well, you are not the only one who's collecting Queen material. If you want bad material to circulate he has every right to say you may not do that. That's what I say too. I saw you had a list with just a date and a city, well you can't trade based on that info. There can be alternate sources; lower gen tapes,.... and these things can make a huge difference.
For example: I totally adore the Crazy tour and all we have for the fantastic Newcastle 3/12/79 show is a C+ recording. If you'd have an alternate source with A- sound quality there would be no way for me to know you have that version because you do not give the appropriate info.

I care about his site and I know many others do too. It's very helpful for the serious collector who wants to know more about Queen's concerts. I'm sure you could learn many things from it, as I did. If you did that your replies on this forum would be worthy of our attention and Bob would probably not give you the hard time he is seduced to give you from time to time.

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[b]L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: [/b]



[i]Who cares about his site?does this allows him to insult or say what I have to do?come on.[/i]

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Well, you are not the only one who's collecting Queen material. If you want bad material to circulate he has every right to say you may not do that. That's what I say too. I saw you had a list with just a date and a city, well you can't trade based on that info. There can be alternate sources; lower gen tapes,.... and these things can make a huge difference.
For example: I totally adore the Crazy tour and all we have for the fantastic Newcastle 3/12/79 show is a C+ recording. If you'd have an alternate source with A- sound quality there would be no way for me to know you have that version because you do not give the appropriate info.

I care about his site and I know many others do too. It's very helpful for the serious collector who wants to know more about Queen's concerts. I'm sure you could learn many things from it, as I did. If you did that your replies on this forum would be worthy of our attention and Bob would probably not give you the hard time he is seduced to give you from time to time.









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[i]What I meant is that even though he has a very useful site,it does not allow him to do whatever they want,I will not respect somebody that not respect me.If one day you open your PM,mail or whatever and out of the blue you got a message insulting you,you would react the same way may be.
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Perhaps, but we are talking about "Various recordings" in this topic.
So everyone sings the Queen-Song he likes most and we start to talk with respect to everyone.

regards
W.

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[b]Sikke van der Veen wrote: [/b]

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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]



No need for the sarcasm.  Let's focus on the subject at hand.

What are your plans for the Detroit recording, and why shouldn't this one be at the top of the priority list, if you want to do something helpful for the community?


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Maybe I was to angry yesterday. i shouldn't offend anyone , so deleted my orignal post.


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Should we assume that, together with the insults, you also deleted the claim of having detroit 77 and 5 sun city shows ?

Detroit 77, more Sun City shows, Marquee 72, complete Queen II recording sessions... they're just words until someone proves they exist.  Public tirades aren't going to make currently empty words any more real.  To date, neither Sikke nor Tiger have proven to have unearthed any new recordings (certainly not Cologne 74, as proven here), yet they are the ones filled with hastily written public hatred for someone who has contributed plenty to the community.  This should reveal plenty about themselves, not the person being shouted at. Of course, having a website doesn't make me immune to criticism or being wrong on any given subject, especially anything relating to Queen live.  But that's a completely unrelated matter.  What you two simply don't like is my honesty.  I publicly call you out on your tactics, and you respond with anger.  It really should be simple: if you have something to offer to the community, then offer it and it will be happily accepted, instead of spending years mentioning things without providing evidence of their existence. Sikke - your lack of desire to calmly discuss the more unusual recordings (never mind sharing them) under the pretense that they are stored away only erodes away your credibility more and more.  So what's more important to you - attacking me or focusing on the actual issue at hand?  It's up to you, to choose whether you want to see me as a collaborator or an enemy.

We can't just let this topic bleed to death. :-)