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Brian performing [i]Let Me Out[/i] at the Live In Montreux Jazz Festival, '01:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGSOLRpx7LY&feature=player_embedded]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGSOLRpx7LY&feature=player_embedded[/url]

He seems to be having a great time.
Everyone thinks his own fleas are gazelles.
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You make a lot of assumptions based on one or two of my comments. Where did I say that fast equals good? Or that only Clapton-style playing is good? Neither EVH or BM are great here, but IMO EVH is a lot more comfortable jamming than Brian, and his guitar on Blues Breaker sounds better than the rather weedy sound Brian gets out of the Red Special. And btw, just because a number of RS owners like that particular sound, doesn't mean it sounds particularly good. That's like saying Yamaha motorbikes are better than Kawasaki motorbikes because a bunch of Yamaha owners think so. Anyway, you';re entitled to your opinion, as am I: I think EVH wins hands down, but neither of them demostrate a lot of 'soul' in Blues Breaker. Star Fleet is a little better, and it at least sounds like Brian a bit. Let Me Out is cliched and dull, which is probably why it never made it onto a Queen album (unlike, say, Sleepin on the Sidewalk).
"Queen is the only band in the world that can play so heavily that your nose bleeds, then offer a silk handkerchief to clean up with."
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]

You make a lot of assumptions based on one or two of my comments. Where did I say that fast equals good? Or that only Clapton-style playing is good? Neither EVH or BM are great here, but IMO EVH is a lot more comfortable jamming than Brian, and his guitar on Blues Breaker sounds better than the rather weedy sound Brian gets out of the Red Special. And btw, just because a number of RS owners like that particular sound, doesn't mean it sounds particularly good. That's like saying Yamaha motorbikes are better than Kawasaki motorbikes because a bunch of Yamaha owners think so. Anyway, you';re entitled to your opinion, as am I: I think EVH wins hands down, but neither of them demostrate a lot of 'soul' in Blues Breaker. Star Fleet is a little better, and it at least sounds like Brian a bit. Let Me Out is cliched and dull, which is probably why it never made it onto a Queen album (unlike, say, Sleepin on the Sidewalk).[/QUOTE]
INHO you are full of crap. I got the CD out this afternoon and have been listening to it, and it is relaxed and enjoyable on the part of all concerned. Why do you all insist on turning it into rocket science? There used to be a link to an interview with Brian on the Queenzone homepage where he talked about the Star Fleet project and he told about how he lost an amp during it and Eddie broke a string and they left everything in it as the whole thing was an informal jam session.

Sometimes this place just seems like a Rag-On-Brian forum and you all sound like a bunch of spoiled brats.
Everyone thinks his own fleas are gazelles.
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QZ cat fight!!!!

Yeah, I heard the Clapton quote too. Although I've got news for EC - that track is better a few hundred of his!

I also read that Eddie was pissed (US pissed, not UK drunk pissed) that Brian released it. Supposedly it was just supposed to be a jam, and Eddie didn't want it to see the light of day. Don't know if it's true, but after hearing it, I understand if it is.

As for who beats who - I prefer Brians approach and can hear past the fact that he didn't have 9 AC30's in the room. However, a young millionaire Cali stoner and a filthy rich Brit physicist isn't where I go to hear the blues!

Going to put on some Stevie Ray right now...
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I have a Guitar World issue from 1989/1990 where Eddie Van Halen said,

"...like that thing I did with Brian May. It wasn't very good, but it was [i]fun.[/i]"

A few years later, I think he did another interview with Sammy Hagar and it came up for some reason - I think Eddie said he wasn't aware about "Bluesbreaker" being some kind of tribute or whatever - he made a point to say Brian was the nicest guy, and he didn't want to say anything bad about it.
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]

 his guitar on Blues Breaker sounds better than the rather weedy sound Brian gets out of the Red Special. And btw, just because a number of RS owners like that particular sound, doesn't mean it sounds particularly good.[/QUOTE]
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This makes no sense at all... "The one I like is good, the one that other people like is weedy".  Passing off one opinion as fact and the other as just opinion wins you no favours!
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[/QUOTE]Half of the problem with Brian's sound on Blues Breaker is the context.  EVH's tone is just all round more stand-out in that setting.  With a different mix (or hell, just a different backing) people probably wouldn't notice it being any more thin than usual.  Guitar tone rides heavily on the stuff that it's mixed in with.


It doesn't really change the fact that it's a couple of rich guys playing something that probably shouldn't have been released on artistic grounds.[/QUOTE]
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Christ, when did I say it was a fact? I clearly said it was my opinion, and that just because a bunch of RS owners had a opinion, it doesn't make them 'right' nor does it mean I have to agree.
"Queen is the only band in the world that can play so heavily that your nose bleeds, then offer a silk handkerchief to clean up with."
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[b]cacatua wrote: [/b]

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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]



You make a lot of assumptions based on one or two of my comments. Where did I say that fast equals good? Or that only Clapton-style playing is good? Neither EVH or BM are great here, but IMO EVH is a lot more comfortable jamming than Brian, and his guitar on Blues Breaker sounds better than the rather weedy sound Brian gets out of the Red Special. And btw, just because a number of RS owners like that particular sound, doesn't mean it sounds particularly good. That's like saying Yamaha motorbikes are better than Kawasaki motorbikes because a bunch of Yamaha owners think so. Anyway, you';re entitled to your opinion, as am I: I think EVH wins hands down, but neither of them demostrate a lot of 'soul' in Blues Breaker. Star Fleet is a little better, and it at least sounds like Brian a bit. Let Me Out is cliched and dull, which is probably why it never made it onto a Queen album (unlike, say, Sleepin on the Sidewalk).

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INHO you are full of crap. I got the CD out this afternoon and have been listening to it, and it is relaxed and enjoyable on the part of all concerned. Why do you all insist on turning it into rocket science? There used to be a link to an interview with Brian on the Queenzone homepage where he talked about the Star Fleet project and he told about how he lost an amp during it and Eddie broke a string and they left everything in it as the whole thing was an informal jam session.

Sometimes this place just seems like a Rag-On-Brian forum and you all sound like a bunch of spoiled brats.



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And IMO you're a stepford. If reading a dissenting opinion annoys you so much, find another forum.
"Queen is the only band in the world that can play so heavily that your nose bleeds, then offer a silk handkerchief to clean up with."
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]

Christ, when did I say it was a fact? I clearly said it was my opinion, and that just because a bunch of RS owners had a opinion, it doesn't make them 'right' nor does it mean I have to agree.

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But that's verging on a tautology and I hate those.  Haha.
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]

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[b]cacatua wrote: [/b]



 

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You make a lot of assumptions based on one or two of my comments. Where did I say that fast equals good? Or that only Clapton-style playing is good? Neither EVH or BM are great here, but IMO EVH is a lot more comfortable jamming than Brian, and his guitar on Blues Breaker sounds better than the rather weedy sound Brian gets out of the Red Special. And btw, just because a number of RS owners like that particular sound, doesn't mean it sounds particularly good. That's like saying Yamaha motorbikes are better than Kawasaki motorbikes because a bunch of Yamaha owners think so. Anyway, you';re entitled to your opinion, as am I: I think EVH wins hands down, but neither of them demostrate a lot of 'soul' in Blues Breaker. Star Fleet is a little better, and it at least sounds like Brian a bit. Let Me Out is cliched and dull, which is probably why it never made it onto a Queen album (unlike, say, Sleepin on the Sidewalk).



 

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INHO you are full of crap. I got the CD out this afternoon and have been listening to it, and it is relaxed and enjoyable on the part of all concerned. Why do you all insist on turning it into rocket science? There used to be a link to an interview with Brian on the Queenzone homepage where he talked about the Star Fleet project and he told about how he lost an amp during it and Eddie broke a string and they left everything in it as the whole thing was an informal jam session.

Sometimes this place just seems like a Rag-On-Brian forum and you all sound like a bunch of spoiled brats.



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And IMO you're a stepford. If reading a dissenting opinion annoys you so much, find another forum.




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If you don't like the way Brian sounds playing his RS, then why are you here?

I at least appreciate SFP for the context in which it was done. I am not trying to fit it into a different slot. In other words, I sought it out because of what it is, not in spite of what it is.

But, hey, chalk my testiness up to feeling old and crotchety yesterday.
Everyone thinks his own fleas are gazelles.
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Brian's interview about Star Fleet:
[url=http://www.pcpki.com/queen/articles/bmsf.html]http://www.pcpki.com/queen/articles/bmsf.html[/url]
Everyone thinks his own fleas are gazelles.