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The song is about MLK, the last line is about KFC.  Couldn't be a simpler connection.





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Actually, it's not, since the last line's 'God works in mysterious ways' (said ca 10-15 seconds [i]after[/i] 'fried chicken'). So, the song's about MLK, one of the lines is about KFC, and the first and last lines are about God.
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Nah, I've always thought of that outro as effects more than actual lyrics.  If someone's playing the song live, no one's going to bother to go "VISION Vision vision vi...." at the end.  It ain't essential - it's just atmospherics.

The real last line - the one they want you to remember - is obviously fried chicken, because the band were unrepentant racists to a man.  Brian lobbied hard to get far worse than 'fried chicken' put into the song...








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Line: 'a short written message' (Dictionary.com)
Last: 'occurring or coming after all others, as in time, order, or place' (Dictionary.com)

'God works in mysterious ways' is a short written message. Ergo, it is a line.
'God works in mysterious ways' (the second iteration) comes after all others (including 'fried chicken' and 'vision vision vision...'). Ergo, it is last.

Last + Line = Last line

Ergo, 'God works in mysterious ways' is the last line in [i]One Vision[/i].
Ergo, 'fried chicken' is not the last line in [i]One Vision[/i].

The fact live versions omitted that part, and the fact it's atmospheric, doesn't change that:

1. It's a line
2. It comes last
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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And bore + crushing = ?
"Queen is the only band in the world that can play so heavily that your nose bleeds, then offer a silk handkerchief to clean up with."
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The last line of one vision is fried chicken. Stick your dictionary up your arse.
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The last line of [i]One Vision[/i] is 'God works in mysterious ways'. I'm not gonna stick my dictionary anywhere. If you're so frustrated that you need to insult people who don't agree with you then it's your problem, not mine.

'Fried chicken' is a line in [i]One Vision,[/i] but not the last.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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By your rationelle there is not one Queen song that has a guitar solo, if you are to switch your brain off and take everything literally.
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You are the only person on the planet who thinks fried chicken is not the last line of one vision. Yes, I have asked them all.
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There are loads of Queen songs with guitar solos. It's got nothing to do with this point.

The thing is: the last line in a song is the one that appears after the others. So:

* 'Anyway the wind blows', and not 'nothing really matters to me', is the last line in [i]Bo Rhap[/i].
* 'We are the champions', and not 'of the world', is the last line in [i]Champions[/i] (live versions of course change that).
* 'God works in mysterious ways', and not 'fried chicken', is the last line in [i]One Vision[/i] (live versions of course change that).

And no, you haven't asked all the billions of people in the planet.

And still, this is not a poll: the last line is the one after all the others. It's not up for voting. If 10 people, or 100, or 10000, say 1+1=6, it doesn't make it true.

The fact you go to ridiculous extents such as insulting me just because I wrote that, or pretending you asked everybody in the world, speaks more about you than it does about me.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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I don't know why you argue so much about that noise. To me, it's not even a voice- just a noise.
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You are the only person on the planet who thinks fried chicken is not the last line of one vision. Yes, I have asked them all.
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And if I may say, it was a bit late to call.  [img=/images/smiley/msn/whatchutalkingabout_smile.gif][/img]
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I take it none of you are aware of the stereotypical association of fried chicken with African-Americans? Let's hope Queen weren't either, and this is just a stupid, throwaway line in the song. Still, it's no wonder Bowie said Queen for having no depth(?) -- even when they're being serious in a song about MLK they throw in a stupid line about fried chicken. [/QUOTE]

Who goes to old saucer eye for depth perception?  :)

God bless 'em for having no depth as he meant it.  Plenty of people do that well already, including Bowie himself.  I think it was one of Freddie's best early instincts to mostly avoid it. For me, the few times that Queen committed the sin of ordinariness were almost invariably when they were deliberately trying to say something about something.   'Fried Chicken' is in it's way as clever as it is jarring, because the song really wasn't about anything heavy at all once they all got at it.  Just an up tempo happy string of snippets that together meant to speak of hope and unity and action. And humour and spontaneity is a wonderful and powerful force in human endeavours great and small. Which you already know, poster who makes me laugh.
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An addendum to my post a few back about Iran and Queen.  I was on the right track, but had missed the train by about 25 years.  Wasn't the Shah, who probably wouldn't have cared about such a thing anyway, it was the Iranian authorities of just few years ago who allowed a CD of Queen songs to be realeased in part because of the Bismillahs in Bo Rhap.
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If we're going the pedants route of 'line' being a 'short written message', then we don't know what the last line is.  We don't know if "fried chicken" or "God works in mysterious ways" were actually [b][i]written[/i] [/b]down, or simply just [b][i]sung[/i],[/b] in which case they may not qualify as a '[b][i]written[/i][/b] message'!!!

On the same argument I also back up the poster who then said that on the same logic there are hardly any guitar solos, because surely the definition of solo is singular, or alone/unaccompanied, when in the songs there is usually a full band's worth of backing, and therefore the guitar is not 'solo'?!?!

My God, Greg Brooks was right wasn't he when he said that we were runnign out of things to debate here wasn't he!!!
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Nah, it's an effect.  VISION VISION vision vi.......
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[/QUOTE]It's a spoken word being used for effect; it's totally not essential to the song.  It's more akin to sampling than singing.  [/QUOTE]
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[/QUOTE]On a technicality it's the last line of the song, but it's really not the one you'd bring up in conversation.  If I were describing the song to someone who hadn't heard it, I'd tell 'em "It finishes with the line FRIED CHICKEN".  Sure, there's a heavily flanged voice going VISION VISION VISION but who gives a toss about that?  It'd be like telling someone that TCR starts with a retard in slow motion going "WHAT PLANUT IS THIS".[/QUOTE]
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Since it's been a spell, I had to give OV a listen due to this conversation.  It reaffirmed what I thought the last line was (is).  There's no mistaking it.

"Cranberry sauce".
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Can somebody please tell some people here to grow up?
Discussing about what the real last line of 'One vision' is......
By the way, no one knows what the real last line is, because the effect at the end are fading out, so no one knows what has been recorded and edited when the sound has become inaudible [img=/images/smiley/msn/tounge_smile.gif][/img]