Win a copy of Phil Sutcliffe's new Queen book

Sir GH wrote:

1. And when I buy a book, I'm trusting that the author is well informed.

2. That's true.  But I think people should be allowed to discuss the lesser important things in life.  How boring would life be if we only discussed the same few things that we deem to be 'most important' ?

3. The fact that someone isn't a published author shouldn't limit them from critiquing someone else's work.  Otherwise, we become a society of yes-men who essentially applaud others for their mistakes.  If someone has a hobby to the extent of being very knowledgeable of a particular subject, they shouldn't be required to write a book to legitimize their thoughts.

4. The fact that someone isn't a published author shouldn't limit them from critiquing someone else's work.  Otherwise, we become a society of yes-men who essentially applaud others for their mistakes.

1.  Don't buy the book from a author you don't know nothing about.

2. And some of the things discussed on here isn't overkill? Same old thing, same old topics, people complaining about whats out and whats not, we are just fans, that's all, nothing more nothing less. And I really feel bad for the new ones on here, because they make one comment and get such ignorant replies, it's a shame. Do you really think we have a input in Queen Productions and others, what they put out? I think not. This is a nice site to discuss Queen stuff but when it comes to complaining, it does no good, it is what it is.

3.  Once again, don't buy the book, is that so difficult? Whats the use of complaining about it, just ignore it. Maybe the younger Queen fans get some enjoy out of it, and the younger generation isn't going to care about "dates" in it, and if they do, they will read and watch more Queen material and become knowledgeable.  Queen is over, the facts are facts, nothing is going to change history and  so one book isn't going to cover the whole history of Queen, your going to get some facts that are debatable some that are not true and you'll never know all the facts, the only ones that know the facts are Freddie,Brian,John and Roger, and I'm sure they don't even remember some of the dates or things they did.  We do not live in a perfect world. 

4. If you buy a book that isn't from a published author, why do you buy it? You know there is going to be mistakes in it, but you still buy it, and then complain about it. Buy it for your collection, display it, or whatever, and be done with it. And who is applauding it and what has this got to do with being a yes-men? It's a book with wrong dates, that's all. And your comparing it to the shuttle and the important things in life, well hate to tell you, it's nothing but words and pictures on paper. That's all, not about lifes daily tasks. You buy cheap furniture, sure it's going to fall apart after awhile, you eat fast food, sure some day you'll get sick, you really think all the chefs wash there hands? We don't live in a perfect world. And just because someone else buys it, you have to buy it, it's your choice, don't try to keep up with the Joneses.

Queenzone put up a nice contest on here, and the first comment was the book is full of errors. Wow.

Of course these mistakes will be made if the they don't run this book pass the fans first, which they could of done. A read through by someone who knows what to look for could of been arranged but wasn't.
And this is not a Queen productions book by the way, otherwise it would of been checked more thoroughly. But mistakes are annoying when you are reading a book, glad I'm not the only one to of spotted these errors.

GT wrote "Of course these mistakes will be made if the they don't run this book pass the fans first, which they could of done. A read through by someone who knows what to look for could of been arranged but wasn't.
And this is not a Queen productions book by the way, otherwise it would of been checked more thoroughly. But mistakes are annoying when you are reading a book, glad I'm not the only one to of spotted these errors."

I have spotted about 5 errors in this. 4 errors of which are repeat errors. Shame on you.

GT wrote:

And this is not a Queen productions book by the way, otherwise it would of been checked more thoroughly.

Do you really think we have a input in Queen Productions and others, what they put out?

So then just return the book at the point of purchase.

mickyparise wrote:















It's a book with wrong dates, that's all. And your comparing it to the shuttle and the important things in life, well hate to tell you, it's nothing but words and pictures on paper.

Fair points overall in your last post, but this one here I had to address.  It certainly is not just words and pictures on a paper.  A comment like that is treading the fine line of degrading authorship and art as a whole.  To some people these things are very important.  Art contributes to society just as much as any other aspect of life we cherish.  And like any other field, it deserves to be treated with care and respect, especially by those within the field.  If someone isn't up for the job in the interest of doing a particular project properly, then they should step aside and give it to someone who is.

Now, having acquired this new book by Phil Sutcliffe, I have to say, it is superb.  Yes, there are a few small errors here and there, but it is nothing compared to the hundreds of glaring errors by Greg Brooks in his most recent tome.

Phil Sutcliffe's book is stunningly excellent in content, organization, and execution.  There are plenty of never before seen pictures (particularly from Ratty's collection), and new stories and anecdotes.  I recommend all Queen fans to grab this one.

What I like most about the book - apart from the many unseen pictures - are the guest essays: reviews of albums which are written by fans and writers who have all their own personal perspective writing about the album they picked. It's very interesting to read all these intelligent essays. I have not even finished reading but I find the book very enjoyable - notwithstanding the errors. It's not even very expensive for the luxurious outfit, high quality scans and high quality paper - less than 20 pounds on amazon.

This is what Phil Sutcliffe writes on the acknowledgement page: "If you Queen fans think you've found any mistakes or even misinterpretations....... please don't shoot off anything other than a corrective email - we are doing our best here" :-)

Crap, i havent been into the serious section in a while, missed this completely!  Oopsie, that was a good lesson!  :)

bought that in a bookstore in seattle, it's excellent, errors nonwithstanding, its an informative read, also, the Review of Hot Space in there is pretty funny,  so yeah, definately worth a read

All I can say is this:  I hope the Sutcliffe Queen book is under my Christmas tree when I wake up next Friday.

Who won?

NCC-1701-Q from The Netherlands and david (galashiels) from Scotland won.

YourValentine wrote:

 NCC-1701-Q from The Netherlands and david (galashiels) from Scotland won.

Congratulations to the Starship Enterprise :)

I thought the review for the miracle was pretty harsh, lol...I know the album wasn't up to Queen standards, but to compare it with Judas Preist Jugulator is plain wrong.  Jugulator was pure trash....... I did like most of the reviews though,  Jazz and the first album were good ones.

The reviewer of 'The Miracle' (who was spot on IMO) was comparing it to 'Jugulator' more as each band's 13th studio album, just as a reference, and seemed to be putting down the Judas Priest effort.

Just noticed the inner cover pictures were from Wings Stadium in Kalamazoo, Michigan of all places (the K-Wing banner hangs between the USA and Canadian flags).  Liner notes mention it being from the Jan 77 show.  I could have been any one of the long hairs in attendance. 

Good memories.

pittrek wrote:

 



YourValentine wrote:



 NCC-1701-Q from The Netherlands and david (galashiels) from Scotland won.

Congratulations to the Starship Enterprise :)

Did you have to "transport" the book, or simply mail it?