Rolling Stone - WTF

I was just looking at Rolling Stone's Immortals list of top 100 Artists and Queen are not on it.  They are also only at number 230 of the 500 greatest albums of all time, behind Abba and loads of other tripe.

WHY????

AGAIN, WHY?

it seems like sour grapes - just patently untrue!  I'm not saying they are objectively the best band ever, but surely this is ridiculous!

RS is crap, they've always been crap and they'll be crap forever. Their rankings are totally shit.

No Pink Floyd either.  So whatever 'transformative' and 'inspirational' and 'immortal' meant in 2004 in this wildly subjective exercise, it clearly didn't just mean brilliant, innovative, influential and enduring.

Truthfully, Queen may find itself left off more and more of these kinds of high browed reverential insider's collections due to their own sometimes cringeworthy career choices.  Maybe that matters, and maybe it doesn't.  They've never been the darlings of critics, but any rethinking the musical intelligencia might have been flirting with in later years has surely been mostly quieted once again.

And again, for all those uninitiated with Queen's history........

They have had virtually no presence in the USA since 1982.   Rolling Stone is a US publication that caters for the US market - therefore, it reflects the taste ans state of the US scene.  To whit, Queen have absolutely no impact outside of a hardcore of fans.

Therefore, their omission is entirely understandable.

Rolling Stone has 15 or 20 international editions, and Pink Floyd, also omitted from the list, has sold like 75,000,000 albums in the US.  It's just the nature of subjectivity and the the stickiness of cultural memes.

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[b]Benn Kempster wrote: [/b]

And again, for all those uninitiated with Queen's history........
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Oh please...

Save yourself an aneurysm and don't ever bother with anything that has "Rolling Stone" written on it.

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Heard loud and clear!   It's not just the queen thing, it's the whole list which makes me so very very cross.

No Smile, No The Cross... Damn!

Angeline, re:

>>it's the whole list which makes me so very very cross.

I can only imagine what an exciting existence you have.  Given that, I'm inclined to agree with you.  I'm now very very cross with RS too.

What should we do about it? 

I suggest we gather guns and ammo, storm the home of Ben Fong Torres and hold him to ransom until the current crop of RS journos see the error of their ways and insert Queen in their damned list at number 34.

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Angeline, re:

>>it's the whole list which makes me so very very cross.

I can only imagine what an exciting existence you have.  Given that, I'm inclined to agree with you.  I'm now very very cross with RS too.

What should we do about it? 

I suggest we gather guns and ammo, storm the home of Ben Fong Torres and hold him to ransom until the current crop of RS journos see the error of their ways and insert Queen in their damned list at number 34.[/QUOTE]

Teehee.  I think number 39 would be more apt though.

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[b]Angeline wrote: [/b]

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  It's not just the queen thing, it's the whole list which makes me so very very cross.

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queen have and always had a bad image in the eyes of many music critics and music fans because they only know their overplayed hits, their 80s pop-plastic sound or simply find freddies looks emberassing.
when i mention that i love queen,  many of my music friends don´t take me serious anymore.
 the thing with music is that it is like food. either you like your sandwich or not. it is not politics where you can discuss about and being a fan of a certain band doesn´t make you a better person.

i always liked these top 100 list from music-critics because you can discover a lot of new interessting music and nowadays with the internet and youtube etc. it is easy to find out if this band is something for you or not. there are reasons why these bands are in these lists. and there is so much more good music out there aside from queen.
 
and so my dear angelina, how many of the top 500 albums do you know? why not checking them out and find out why other people like them so much??

I know of and have heard nearly all of them, I own about 200 of them.   That wasn't my point.   I understand the appeal of even bands that I dislike, like ABBA or whatever, but I was questioning the ordering and how they picked the records.  My point was that with RS it IS political in a sense.  You say the problem with Queen is people only know hits etc, which is fair enough but I would expect that if RS journalists felt they were knowledgeable enough to put out a list of the ultimate 500 Albums that they would perhaps know a little more.  My top 500 would be different of course, it's all subjective, I just think that OBJECTIVELY Queen should rank a little higher, no?

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They've never been the darlings of critics, but any rethinking the musical intelligencia might have been flirting with in later years has surely been mostly quieted once again.[/QUOTE]
Is this a funny reference to Five, Robbie Williams, American Idol and the X Factor?  If so, i'm tickled!

Right , - I'm going over there to confront this bloody Rolling Stone lark.- i'll let ypu know how i get on.