Hm. That's odd, because I've been here for like... a week? And I already know enough to show Zebonka12 my utter-most respect/fear. Ha.
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Good God, no! Make fun of me please - this place is just a laugh, seriously. I only come here when I'm off-duty!
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I love the drama, really. It's a cute little place to blow off some steam while vaguely colouring itself with pictures of rock stars, who I'm assuming make music, but you'd never know that by the forums.
And believe me, dear, I'm not above kissing ass. ;D
john bodega · Member since
Ha!!! Well met. Sometimes I do find myself hoping that I've not seriously bent any noses out of shape and that it is in fact a joke here ...
Voice of Reason 2018 · Member since
We first saw that photo at the convention in 1989.
We thought Freddie had let himself go and put on weight.
With hindsight I guess it was a reaction to his medication, though there's no way we thought of that at the time.
Angeline · Member since
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Ha!!! Well met. Sometimes I do find myself hoping that I've not seriously bent any noses out of shape and that it is in fact a joke here ... [/QUOTE]
Tell me about it, God forbid that people really think Rolf Harris is my favourite recording artist and that I've ordered a commemorative Mercury douche for Christmas.
tryffel · Member since
I think he looks very good in the Scandal video. Less swollen but not that skinny he become some mounths later.
I was thinking. He got his Aids diagnose in spring 87. Do you think he could have small signs of the disease alredy o n the magic tour?
Gregsynth · Member since
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I think he looks very good in the Scandal video. Less swollen but not that skinny he become some mounths later.
I was thinking. He got his Aids diagnose in spring 87. Do you think he could have small signs of the disease alredy o n the magic tour? [/QUOTE] I don't think he was ill on the tour. HIV positive? Probably, but I don't think he was "sick" on the tour. He looked great anyway.
GratefulFan · Member since
Unless he was years off the mean, he was probably HIV positive by the late 1970's. If Barbara Valentin is to be found credible there were some worrying physical symptoms back to 1985. I think at the very least he probably had entered a period of worry/denial by the Magic Tour.
Gregsynth · Member since
Nah, he was fine during the late 70s.
GratefulFan · Member since
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...I've ordered a commemorative Mercury douche for Christmas.
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LOL LOL How did I miss this the first time?
Angeline · Member since
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...I've ordered a commemorative Mercury douche for Christmas.
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LOL LOL How did I miss this the first time?
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My favourite bit was the advert with specially recorded song 'Another One Bites The Douche'.
Teehee
GratefulFan · Member since
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It's all speculative of course, and I only think about it when I allow myself the occasional fantasy that things turned out entirely differently.
The average time between untreated HIV infection and the development of AIDS symptoms is 9 years or so, with most developing the disease by 10 years. At the outer margins of the statistics are the people that live with untreated HIV for 20 or more years, and those that develop full blown AIDS in a matter of weeks. The first people to get sick in 80/81 probably had been infected a decade before. In a totally unscientific and potentially meaningless observation, Freddie had his affair with Joe Fanelli in 1978, and Joe developed AIDS and died shortly after Freddie did.
tryffel · Member since
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Unless he was years off the mean, he was probably HIV positive by the late 1970's. If Barbara Valentin is to be found credible there were some worrying physical symptoms back to 1985. I think at the very least he probably had entered a period of worry/denial by the Magic Tour.[/QUOTE]
, Intresting, can you tell me more about those phsycial sumptoms in 1985? Never heard of that
Angeline · Member since
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Nah, he was fine during the late 70s.
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It's all speculative of course, and I only think about it when I allow myself the occasional fantasy that things turned out entirely differently.
The average time between untreated HIV infection and the development of AIDS symptoms is 9 years or so, with most developing the disease by 10 years. At the outer margins of the statistics are the people that live with untreated HIV for 20 or more years, and those that develop full blown AIDS in a matter of weeks. The first people to get sick in 80/81 probably had been infected a decade before. In a totally unscientific and potentially meaningless observation, Freddie had his affair with Joe Fanelli in 1978, and Joe developed AIDS and died shortly after Freddie did.
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I hate going into this but I remember in a Peter Jones interview he said he had debated with Freddie whether Freddie should go out with Winnie or another friend and he said the other friend ended up with Joe - this was in 1984 so I think there was a lot of overlapping sexual activity. Besides both were probably exposed on many more occasions, so speculation is meaningless but tempting. Interestingly the mean time from infection to AIDS is 10 yrs but after 'full blown AIDS' as karposi's sarcoma is indicative of, the mean life expectancy is between 1-2 yrs and Freddie lived for 5 - so he could feasibly have got it later or something. Blah blah blah. It's so interesting, the whole story and development of AIDS and the political reaction of the Reagan administration. One thing that blows my mind is HIV wasn't discovered until 1984 so before that I imagine the attitude was, if you weren't sick and exhibiting physical symptoms, you hadn't caught it yet. Stephen Fry made a very interesting 2 part documentary which is on youtube called 'HIV & Me'. Very informative and worth watching.
little foetus · Member since
It's impossible to know when Freddie was infected by HIV. The time between HIV-infection and AIDS-stage is from few months to 10 years and it depends on many factors: viral load, CD4 count, efficiency of treatment, adherence to treatment, virus resistance, sexually transmitted diseases. There's still no consensus on this question.
Gregsynth · Member since
The things we DO know are that Freddie had AIDS by 1987.
