I'm not spending any more time on this. If you think Freddie is beyond certain kinds of reproach, despite the mountains of evidence that he could be an extraordinarily difficult person, knock yourself out. He never seemed to me to be the type of man who wanted to be worshipped.
Gregsynth · Member since
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I'm not spending any more time on this. If you think Freddie is beyond certain kinds of reproach, despite the mountains of evidence that he could be an extraordinarily difficult person, knock yourself out. He never seemed to me to be the type of man who wanted to be worshipped.
[/QUOTE] That last post made absolutely NO SENSE dude. I never said "Freddie wasn't difficult." I was CLARIFYING your post that mentioned Walsh in it! LOL!
john bodega · Member since
Freddie was a complete prick. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]... to some people. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]End of.[/QUOTE]
Amazon · Member since
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[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
I would say that Freddie became an unassailable genius with ANATO, but was already on the way to becoming one after Queen II and SHA. That said, I do agree that no amount of talent can justify extreme rude or insensitive behaviour. If Freddie was being an arsehole, then he was an arsehole and no talent can justify that. But here's the thing; even if Freddie was an arsehole, one would have to acknowledge his talent. For example, I think that John Lennon could sometimes act like an absolute prick, but he was a magnificent musician. Similarly, Paul's treatment of George wasn't always exemplary but Paul is a genius. Axl Rose is one of my favourite singers and is IMO an absolute freak, but he is not someone whom I would want my sister, or niece, to date. If Walsh had said something along the lines of 'He was a bloody talented performer but he was a real arsehole when I met him' that would be one thing. Instead he denied Freddie's talent which I think is crossing the line. He implied that Freddie wasn't talented, that he was just a prima donna with more ego than talent; and I think if anybody is the arsehole, it's Steve Walsh.
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I think you're extrapolating Walsh's remarks beyond where they were meant to go. What he said, in the context of a question about 1975, was that Freddie was 'an asshole'. Only when pushed on it did he qualify that with 'prima donna', which is something those closest to Freddie over most of his adult life have asserted as well. His comments about ego and talent only came to qualify prima donna as not a good thing. He never said directly or indirectly that Freddie had no talent. What was said was that in Walsh's view, during a discreet period of time that Walsh is qualified to comment on, Freddie's ego outstripped his talent and apparently made things unpleasant for some people. I accept that.[/QUOTE]
Since we're only going on a couple of sentences in an interview, it may very well be that I'm reading beyond what he is saying. Nonetheless, and this is not about regarding Freddie as perfect or anything like that, but if he's saying that Freddie's ego outstripped his talent, I do not accept that. Walsh can think whatever he likes, and Freddie may very well have acted like an arsehole to him, but I don't believe that Freddie's ego would have been to such an extent that it would have outsripped his talent, which IMO was already vast.
Drowse.in.red · Member since
I think Freddie wasn't an easy person to stay with, I mean, he was... peculiar (is this the right word?). Someone loved him, someone did not. Things go this way with interesting people, like him.
Gregsynth · Member since
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He wanted to cross-pollinate and actually smash a mirror over the head of each and every black person that could not attend his Sun City gigs, but the tour budget simply didn't allow for it. They talk about it in the 1989 interview.[/QUOTE] Thanks for clearing that up!
Gregsynth · Member since
I'm running out of things to say for now about my own topic, LOL. So I'll conclude my post: Did Freddie have an ego? Yes Was Freddie a bit of a Prima Donna/asshole in Queen's early years? Yes [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]Could Freddie be unreasonable at times? Yes [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]Is Freddie an asshole in general? No: He was a kind, generous man (his main personality) who had a great sense of humor, and always gave 100% in his performances. Sure he had faults/weaknesses, but he's human. [/QUOTE] Final note: Freddie's TALENT is more than his ego, not the other way around Mr. Steve Walsh! [/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Amazon · Member since
Gregsynth- "Final note: Freddie's TALENT is more than his ego, not the other way around Mr. Steve Walsh!" Hear Hear!!!!!
Gregsynth · Member since
Yes, yes!!!
Matias Merçeauroix · Member since
Steve Walsh doesn't like people at all. Maybe he didn't need a reason to dislike Freddie, maybe he just didn't.
But he's an absolutely incredible composer/arranger/player/singer.
Freddie's far superior, tho.
Gregsynth · Member since
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Steve Walsh doesn't like people at all. Maybe he didn't need a reason to dislike Freddie, maybe he just didn't.
But he's an absolutely incredible composer/arranger/player/singer.
Freddie's far superior, tho. [/QUOTE] Agree!
jamster1111 · Member since
First of all. Kansas wasnt the best band in the world. Especially when you are comparing them to queen. He was probably extremely jealous. It was extremely innapropriate to say he has an ego bigger than his talent because that is impossible. This man is over exaggerating
Gregsynth · Member since
Yeah, I mean if Steve said "Freddie was acting like a prima donna, but he could sing" or something like that, that's fine. But to say "his ego is bigger than his talent" is not only untrue, but is absurd, inconsiderate, and just shows that Steve was either having a bad day, or sour grapes.
GratefulFan · Member since
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It was extremely innapropriate to say he has an ego bigger than his talent because that is impossible. This man is over exaggerating[/QUOTE]
Ha ha ha. Delicious irony. And just in time for breakfast!