[/QUOTE]I don't think Lady Ga Ga has proven herself just yet but she has a ton of potential. She writes her own songs and she has a flair for theatrics and she comes up with cool Bowie-type stage outfits... I hope she keeps the hits coming because I like her approach to music.[/QUOTE]
Gaabiizz · Member since
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] Speechless is an excellent song as well. Everyone should check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRILEQhJqoo
If she'd focus on her musical talent instead of her image, she might be taken seriously by people who prefer musical quality over selling sex. But since image has become more important than music to popular culture (thanks, MTV), it's clear that the masses who buy into sex are far greater in number to people who like to sit down and listen to the great album with headphones.
Sure, she may end up being the next Madonna, but what are we as a society when we applaud artists who make showing off their body the primary goal? Can we even name one female artist to have come out in the last 25 years who has endured in the mainstream without showing off her body? Maybe Bjork..?[/QUOTE] Great , Great , Great!
I must say, the third 'great' had me off my seat in excitement. What a brilliant change of pace in his universally beloved contributions to this forum.
matt z · Member since
Last 25 years???
Well I was initially gonna cite the best of em.... ANNIE LENNOX... Until I realized I'm becoming old and Annie basically hit after 1980 after the band THE TOURISTS folded.
There's less hope for Alicia Keys, who started strong and sentimental, but turned out to be a Cmajor weak pop songstress...
Emma from Sick Puppies is a butch-er...and has songwriters clinching the stuff, even if she ever had a good breakthrough lead.
Joss Stone is a complete wannabe BLACK Soul Singer from 52'- 78' so she's a cheap gimmick and out
Christina Aguilera admired all the right artists (esp. Etta James - who took her singing style from innovator Johnny Guitar Watson)
All the females I know who like/have liked Bjork...are as crazy as that bitch is.
Jewel had some songcraft going, then she went pop (could be another case of co-writers for a hot/cute girl)
And I worked along with Colbie Caillat at her beginnings... Her father is largely responsible...and her singing isn't on par with anybody..its the hush close-proximity kind
So... The only females that come up in the past 25 years worth a damn (excluding dear Annie... Who is fucking phenomenal)
Are:
1) Norah Jones
2) Sheryl Crow (alright...she was a bg singer for MJ, but her solo stuff didn't kick till the 90's)
3) Esperanza Spalding (her self titled will go down as an incredible album, regardless of her weird forays into other fields)
4) Ani DiFranco.... A hell of a songstress, even if you're not a gay woman
5).... Who the hell knows..
I would love to hear a suggested listening list of ppl to come.
PS: I had my eyes and ears hipped to ADELE when she was fat and did something with Pet Townshend....
I kinda think she's another studio creation (ghost writers + songs bought dirt cheap from starving musicians)
Missy Elliot seemed like she'd be an up and comer... Even though I didn't like much of her stuff.... She was just all over the place... But I'm guessing she's been too busy munching carpet.
matt z · Member since
Ps: thanks for the Joss Stone link... Cheap black soul impersonator or not (like 1/2 of the Stones' early songs [thank god they had actual talent]) I really appreciate that... If only there were ahem... Photo *spreads.
She's an attractive woman.
*ahem...
Anyways. Yeah, I've tried this angle with women but they don't get it; life still maintains a double standard...and you seldom have a woman who writes songs of excellent caliber ala Joni Mitchell, Carol King....they just don't happen often... Life makes things easier for women...and if there's been an "ugly" woman who didn't make the public grade...why haven't I heard her songs performed by cuties yet?
I know there are double standards for public consumerism.
Anyways, thank you. And thank you QZ for not suggesting Amy Winehouse... She's a studio retro experiment.
Whitney Houston now...she had it all without selling/shilling her body...
croatiafan · Member since
I tune in to whatever talk show she's on just
to see what sort of outlandish outfit she's
wearing. Other than that, I'm not a big fan of
Lady Gaga's music.
Holly2003 · Member since
In all seriousness, I hadn't realised Lady gaga was selling herself as a sex symbol. She's clearly over charging -- there's nothing sexy about her. Comparisons with early Madonna are way off: Madonna wasn't that pretty but she could be sexy. However, Lady Ga Ga can sing and Madonna can't.
Amazon · Member since
Holly2003 wrote: "In all seriousness, I hadn't realised Lady gaga was selling herself as a sex symbol. She's clearly over charging -- there's nothing sexy about her. Comparisons with early Madonna are way off: Madonna wasn't that pretty but she could be sexy. However, Lady Ga Ga can sing and Madonna can't."
I don't agree. I think that Madonna can definitely sing. I thought she did a great job on Evita, and much of her other work is also really good. I think she's a fine singer, however she has never been noted for it.
As for Gaga: great singer, fantastic dancer and performer, however I certainly agree that she's not particularly sexy. Not that it matters.
waunakonor · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]tomchristie22 wrote:[/b]
I must say, the third 'great' had me off my seat in excitement. What a brilliant change of pace in his universally beloved contributions to this forum. [/QUOTE]
It's not just the comment itself, it's the fact that he/she felt the need to resurrect this thread just to write it over two years after the last post had been made. Now it seems to be getting some traction, and I guess that's my fault since everyone started commenting after I posted that.
As for the actual topic, the only Lady GaGa song I own is You and I. It's a pretty good song, though she says "Nebraska!" too much toward the end of it for some reason. Lady GaGa just strikes me as being a strong singer, and since I don't really pay attention at all to the music videos or various performances, the music all that really matters to me, and to my ears it's decent music.
Amazon · Member since
waunakonor wrote: "Now it seems to be getting some traction, and I guess that's my fault since everyone started commenting after I posted that."
It's an interesting thread. There's no reason why threads can't be resurrected, even if they've been dormant for two years. The comment that resurrected the thread wasn't particularly impressive, but I don't see why you would blame yourself for a thread becoming popular again, when there's nothing wrong with that.
Holly2003 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Amazon wrote:[/b]
Holly2003 wrote: "In all seriousness, I hadn't realised Lady gaga was selling herself as a sex symbol. She's clearly over charging -- there's nothing sexy about her. Comparisons with early Madonna are way off: Madonna wasn't that pretty but she could be sexy. However, Lady Ga Ga can sing and Madonna can't."
I don't agree. I think that Madonna can definitely sing. I thought she did a great job on Evita, and much of her other work is also really good. I think she's a fine singer, however she has never been noted for it.
As for Gaga: great singer, fantastic dancer and performer, however I certainly agree that she's not particularly sexy. Not that it matters.
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I've always thought Madonna has a thin and weak voice. Didn't the musical director of Evita say something similar about her voice? To some extent she can cover that up in the studio, which is fine by me -- some of her stuff was very catchy. But she was a triumph of style & self promotion over substance, whereas Lady GaGa is imo more talented. Not that I would buy any of her stuff mind: my latest music purchase was 3 Deep Purple cds ;)
Gaabiizz · Member since
Lady GaGa is a great person and a great artist , is the new Queen of music
