Marked the 30th anniversary concert for the people of Kampuchea
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on my way up · Member since
Actually, I find it's about time that Greg shows up again...:-)
He always knows how to make us enthusiastic about products that do not happen...
He SHOULD tell us a bit more about Hammy'79. If I remember correctly, Brian has never ever said anything about this show on his site... would like to hear from him too...
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
I asked Greg about a possible release about a year ago. His response was that they would love to release it, because QP agrees that it is the best unissued video recording they have, and probably the most marketable, but that they only have a stereo downmix *of the original multitrack* (so not the mono console recording), which is of insufficient quality for an official release according to the band themselves.
neokaden · Member since
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The reason is simple - the soundboard multitracks were "lost" . That's the reason why all released segments feature the not -so-good-quality sound captured by the video cameras
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But still, do not find that warrants that have not released an official DVD of this concert, considering, besides that you can achieve a decent material, mixing the audio of "complete concert of the Kampuchea" and the "audio console mono format "which I understand is still preserved.
[/QUOTE]And an example of that is worth the dvd release
So you think they should use the BOOTLEG audio ? I don't think it's realistic since Greg Brooks (and as reported by him also Brian May) hate sounds of the audience recordings. However it's currently the best thing WE can get
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Of course, but I do not say that, but should rather say that bootleg mixed with the sound console (which I understand that if they have a copy)
In addition, there I heard that other channels broadcast the event live, or the signal received to the concert, and therefore, may eventually have a copy of the broadcast on TV, so it's something that Queen Production make necessary arrangements.
The Real Wizard · Member since
We just need a clever way to indicate to QP that a raw stereo mix is not such a bad thing after all. Plenty of bands have released old concerts in stereo sound.. even mono!
Rick · Member since
Only when Brian dies.
I'm sorry, but he has a finger in every pie.
Yara · Member since
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The 30th anniversary already? Wow.
So, take that!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjHN26VyKyM
Here you've got some brilliant bass-playing and a perfect piece of music.
: -))
Cheers.
PS: Uh, I wished Queen's performance were officially released too, but I can't see that happening in the next 20 years. Contrary to what Al Bore had been saying, though, we'll not die - and nor will the cute polar bears which can both swim and catch fish - in the next few years due to global warming. So, maybe I get to see this one on the shelves someday and watch it with my grandchildren, who are going to ask me whether Freddie was gay and all this stuff...
The world never really changes. OBAMA knows that better than anyone.
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Wonderful, do you know how much of the footage survived ? I tried to find as many songs from as many bands as possible from this "mini-festival" but all I found was the Queen audio, part of the Queen video, the Clash audio and the 1980 film featuring many of the artists
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I love this version. First of all, because the wonderful guitar solo is absent from the studio version, and it gives the song so much beauty. And then, of course, because Paul was in his prime both as regards singing and bass-playing - his bass lines are so clever that it seems that an independent, exquisite piece of music is being developed apart from - or alongside - the rest of the song.
The way he sings some lines, such as "every night I wanna play out", and then goes to his bass chops, is just amazing.
GOOD OLD DAYS, PITTREK! We were happy back then and we didn't know it. lol
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Well, I found this out and I know there's footage of other songs as well. My friend made me a copy of the audio bootleg of Paul's performance, but only 7 tracks out of 15, I guess, actually come from Hammy'79 - the rest is from Newcastle '79.
I don't know whether he played only 7 songs, in which case I think there's audio and footage for the whole of his performance, or more. That'd be interesting to know.
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As for Queen...uh. lol
I mean...there's actually no excuse for not releasing this one. Really. I say one thing: RELEASE IT ALL IN THE BEST POSSIBLE QUALITY. I wished someone there took in some breath and said proudly: SCREW THE MULTITRACKS. Let's make the best we can with whatever we have and put out a decent release.
If the multitracks later come up, think about it, they can re-release the stuff...lol...Q.P style. ; -))
*BIG POLAR BEAR HUG*
on my way up · Member since
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We just need a clever way to indicate to QP that a raw stereo mix is not such a bad thing after all. Plenty of bands have released old concerts in stereo sound.. even mono!
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You are very very right!!
I read in a magazine that Thin Lizzy wanted to release a dvd of their famous album Live and dangerous. BUT, they decided to postpone the release because they couldn't find the multitrack. After lots of searching they still couldn't find the multitrack and they decided to work on tje stereotapes they had and the reviewer commented that the sound was fantastic! They even managed to make a surround mix(I'm not kiddin')
So, this should be possible for Hammy too. This show is too good and too important to let it gather dust, damned.
Yara · Member since
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
We just need a clever way to indicate to QP that a raw stereo mix is not such a bad thing after all. Plenty of bands have released old concerts in stereo sound.. even mono!
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You are very very right!!
I read in a magazine that Thin Lizzy wanted to release a dvd of their famous album Live and dangerous. BUT, they decided to postpone the release because they couldn't find the multitrack. After lots of searching they still couldn't find the multitrack and they decided to work on tje stereotapes they had and the reviewer commented that the sound was fantastic! They even managed to make a surround mix(I'm not kiddin')
So, this should be possible for Hammy too. This show is too good and too important to let it gather dust, damned.
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So let's start the SCREW THE MULTITRACKS movement. : -)))
If they show up later, they can re-release the thing. hehe
on my way up · Member since
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[b]Yara wrote: [/b]
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[b]on my way up wrote: [/b]
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
We just need a clever way to indicate to QP that a raw stereo mix is not such a bad thing after all. Plenty of bands have released old concerts in stereo sound.. even mono!
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You are very very right!!
I read in a magazine that Thin Lizzy wanted to release a dvd of their famous album Live and dangerous. BUT, they decided to postpone the release because they couldn't find the multitrack. After lots of searching they still couldn't find the multitrack and they decided to work on tje stereotapes they had and the reviewer commented that the sound was fantastic! They even managed to make a surround mix(I'm not kiddin')
So, this should be possible for Hammy too. This show is too good and too important to let it gather dust, damned.
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So let's start the SCREW THE MULTITRACKS movement. : -)))
If they show up later, they can re-release the thing. hehe
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I'm in!!! (obviously)
Ok, what should we do to start our campaign?
pittrek · Member since
http://www.brianmay.com/contactdetails.html
neokaden · Member since
I think the ideal would be to upload a video to prove that you can perform an audio quality of this concert. (mixing the bootleg + Audio VHS)
I'm doing with Somebody To Love, will soon be ready
Darko · Member since
It's an absolute disgrace that this fabulous concert hasn't yet been released. The lost multitracks are not essential, Queen fans would still buy this product if it was released in stereo sound today. This performance is arguably Queens and especially Freddie's best live performance ever, even better than Newcastle '79. Freddie's voice was more consistent during the Hammersmith show.
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
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We just need a clever way to indicate to QP that a raw stereo mix is not such a bad thing after all. Plenty of bands have released old concerts in stereo sound.. even mono!
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Apparently that's how QP feels, but Brian (and, I speculate, not Roger) refuses to settle for it. Or they did not tell me the truth, and there is another reason, though I couldn't see why they would.
Planetgurl · Member since
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It's an absolute disgrace that this fabulous concert hasn't yet been released. The lost multitracks are not essential, Queen fans would still buy this product if it was released in stereo sound today. This performance is arguably Queens and especially Freddie's best live performance ever, even better than Newcastle '79. Freddie's voice was more consistent during the Hammersmith show. [/QUOTE] Absolutely agree! And seeing that it was broadcast years ago as a hour hour thing on ITV, why do they feel unable to either rebroadcast it or issue it as a release now... People that are new to Queen of course recognise the musical legacy but it seems they have no idea how truly great they were live from audio/visual evidence: I think Kampuchea is probably the best filmed live rock & roll performance by an artist or band - ever. Great that it was captured for posterity but for it to be sitting in an archive gathering dust, I agree is a disgrace. Queen live were consistently great, some performances better than others obviously but generally their performances were the stuff of legend - just wish the cameras had been around more often in the '70's, or captured better shows than Hammersmith '75. There was carnage on that tour, seats being ripped up by the audiences... fabulous stuff but you'd never know it from the footage that survives from that era...
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
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[b]Darko wrote: [/b]
It's an absolute disgrace that this fabulous concert hasn't yet been released. The lost multitracks are not essential, Queen fans would still buy this product if it was released in stereo sound today. This performance is arguably Queens and especially Freddie's best live performance ever, even better than Newcastle '79. Freddie's voice was more consistent during the Hammersmith show. [/QUOTE]
I don't want to be a spoil-sport, but we don't actually know how the stereo downmix sounds. It might be awfully unbalanced, damaged, hissy or any of a million things rendering it unusable.