But, on the other hand, if you ever dare to call yourself a decent musician, I think you should, at least, realize that he FUCKING SUCKS. If you choose to like his shit despite that, I don't think anyone would care but... being unable to notice his obvious lack of skills... now that's a problem.
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If you'd care to read one of my earlier posts, I readily acknowledged that he wasn't the cleanest of players. Even Page himself has acknowledged this.
I invite you to recall that 95% of the population aren't musicians, and 99.9% of the population aren't musicians who can tell the difference, so what do they care if he hit the open B string a couple times? There's more to music than the cleanliness of guitar notes.
If you can't be bothered to see past that and recognize the other dimensions of Page and Led Zeppelin's music, it's your loss. You can like what you like, and the rest of the world will like what they like. There's no need to slam Page at every possible opportunity just because you don't get what he was all about.
Voice of Reason 2018 · Member since
I just tuned into this thread and went straight to page 7.
How the fuck did you get from Brian's guitar playing to Hitler?!!
Happy New Year!
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]Voice of Reason 2009 wrote: [/b]
I just tuned into this thread and went straight to page 7.
How the fuck did you get from Brian's guitar playing to Hitler?!!
Happy New Year!
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Easy, and I can do it quicker than that.
Brian May
was the lead guitar player for Queen
Dave Marsh of the NME called Queen "the world's first fascist rock band"
The most famous fascist is...
Adolf Hitler
Matias Merçeauroix · Member since
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[b]Sebastian wrote: [/b]
Well, I respect your opinion, but I don't share it.
Just like there are many guitar players that were/are not in the slightest way influenced by Page but still play wonderfully, there are many guitarists who don't think Jimmy sucks, who actually admire him, and for whom things turned out OK (Brian included).
So, not everybody who dislikes (or is not interested in) Page is a snob, and not everybody who likes him is deaf.
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We'd have to see which ones really liked Page and which ones grew up listening to his (horrible) music and eventually named him among musical influences because of that. Besides, I don't think any important musician would go and say OK, LED ZEPPELIN IS CRAP, because it's not clever to do so, it's not polite and you won't change people's minds.
On the other hand, I can allow myself to say it as much as I want and piss idiots off, which I love doing. And yes, Page DOES suck. There is a HUGE difference between being somewhat sloppy (as Eddie Van Halen live, during the early years) and being an utter disaster/a motherfucker that should have never picked up a guitar.
I also think his songs are poor and terrible. It's ridiculous how his bandmates didn't kick him out of the band. Plant eventually became a pretty good singer. John Paul Jones is great and Bonzo really improved during the years... yet Page always managed to suck. I mean... you can see John Paul Jones' WTF/LMFAO face during Jimmy's solos.
But one should always look on the bright side of life.
Maybe Page is a good cock, maybe he is an amazing tennis player!
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
We'd have to see which ones really liked Page and which ones grew up listening to his (horrible) music and eventually named him among musical influences because of that. Besides, I don't think any important musician would go and say OK, LED ZEPPELIN IS CRAP, because it's not clever to do so, it's not polite and you won't change people's minds.
[b]On the other hand, I can allow myself to say it as much as I want and piss idiots off, which I love doing[/b]. And yes, Page DOES suck. There is a HUGE difference between being somewhat sloppy (as Eddie Van Halen live, during the early years) and being an utter disaster/a motherfucker that should have never picked up a guitar.
I also think his songs are poor and terrible. It's ridiculous how his bandmates didn't kick him out of the band. Plant eventually became a pretty good singer. John Paul Jones is great and Bonzo really improved during the years... yet Page always managed to suck. I mean... you can see John Paul Jones' WTF/LMFAO face during Jimmy's solos.
But one should always look on the bright side of life.
Maybe Page is a good cock, maybe he is an amazing tennis player!
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So while you're trolling around forums trying to annoy people, at around the same age, Page was a member of rock's most famous band, having the time of his life, and making millions of dollars. Okay....
john bodega · Member since
He'd rather be right than happy!
Matias Merçeauroix · Member since
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
We'd have to see which ones really liked Page and which ones grew up listening to his (horrible) music and eventually named him among musical influences because of that. Besides, I don't think any important musician would go and say OK, LED ZEPPELIN IS CRAP, because it's not clever to do so, it's not polite and you won't change people's minds.
[b]On the other hand, I can allow myself to say it as much as I want and piss idiots off, which I love doing[/b]. And yes, Page DOES suck. There is a HUGE difference between being somewhat sloppy (as Eddie Van Halen live, during the early years) and being an utter disaster/a motherfucker that should have never picked up a guitar.
I also think his songs are poor and terrible. It's ridiculous how his bandmates didn't kick him out of the band. Plant eventually became a pretty good singer. John Paul Jones is great and Bonzo really improved during the years... yet Page always managed to suck. I mean... you can see John Paul Jones' WTF/LMFAO face during Jimmy's solos.
But one should always look on the bright side of life.
Maybe Page is a good cock, maybe he is an amazing tennis player!
[/QUOTE]
So while you're trolling around forums trying to annoy people, at around the same age, Page was a member of rock's most famous band, having the time of his life, and making millions of dollars. Okay....
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I think it's time you stopped repeating how much money Page did. It's clear for everyone that if you were to have a band, the last thing you'd care about is the music. You seem to love money so much, it's actually sad.
On the other hand, I'm not trolling. I'm stating something that it's incredibly true. Your reactions make me laugh, like when someone says FREDDIE MERCURY WAS GAY and lots of people cry and say:
a- "BUT HE WAS A GOOD SINGER!!!", when nobody said anything about his vocal skills in the first place.
b- "NO, HE WASN'T, HE WAS BISEXUAL", which is not true.
c- "YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC", when nobody said anything about homosexuality being a bad thing, it was just stated that Freddie Mercury was, indeed, gay.
d- "OMFG OMFG WTF WTF LOLZOR"
But none of them actually says YES, HE WAS. Which he was and it's true and nobody can deny. Which, of course, has nothing to do with his music. And the statement itself doesn't say it's a good or a bad thing, it just says something that is true.
That's pretty much what happens when I say that Jimmy Page sucks. He does suck. So much. And there are of course, those who say he doesn't. Those who say it doesn't matter. Those who say he did kinda suck and people like you who say "BUT HE HAZ A LOTSA MONEY LAWLZ!!!111!1!1!!"
The Real Wizard · Member since
Equating your opinion with an indisputable fact like Freddie Mercury's homosexuality is where this discussion now gets a bit misguided.
You think you're such a serious musician, but I suggest you re-examine that position. No serious musician goes out of his way to denigrate one of his peers to this extent - especially one who has had a significant impact on tens of millions of people, musicians and non-musicians alike.
And calling those who disagree with you "deaf" without providing some kind of basis for your assertions certainly isn't going to grant your argument any credibility.
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
We'd have to see which ones really liked Page and which ones grew up listening to his (horrible) music and eventually named him among musical influences because of that. Besides, I don't think any important musician would go and say OK, LED ZEPPELIN IS CRAP, because it's not clever to do so, it's not polite and you won't change people's minds.
[b]On the other hand, I can allow myself to say it as much as I want and piss idiots off, which I love doing[/b]. And yes, Page DOES suck. There is a HUGE difference between being somewhat sloppy (as Eddie Van Halen live, during the early years) and being an utter disaster/a motherfucker that should have never picked up a guitar.
I also think his songs are poor and terrible. It's ridiculous how his bandmates didn't kick him out of the band. Plant eventually became a pretty good singer. John Paul Jones is great and Bonzo really improved during the years... yet Page always managed to suck. I mean... you can see John Paul Jones' WTF/LMFAO face during Jimmy's solos.
But one should always look on the bright side of life.
Maybe Page is a good cock, maybe he is an amazing tennis player!
[/QUOTE]
So while you're trolling around forums trying to annoy people, at around the same age, Page was a member of rock's most famous band, having the time of his life, and making millions of dollars. Okay....
[/QUOTE]
I think it's time you stopped repeating how much money Page did. It's clear for everyone that if you were to have a band, the last thing you'd care about is the music. You seem to love money so much, it's actually sad.
On the other hand, I'm not trolling. I'm stating something that it's incredibly true. Your reactions make me laugh, like when someone says FREDDIE MERCURY WAS GAY and lots of people cry and say:
a- "BUT HE WAS A GOOD SINGER!!!", when nobody said anything about his vocal skills in the first place.
b- "NO, HE WASN'T, HE WAS BISEXUAL", which is not true.
c- "YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC", when nobody said anything about homosexuality being a bad thing, it was just stated that Freddie Mercury was, indeed, gay.
d- "OMFG OMFG WTF WTF LOLZOR"
But none of them actually says YES, HE WAS. Which he was and it's true and nobody can deny. Which, of course, has nothing to do with his music. And the statement itself doesn't say it's a good or a bad thing, it just says something that is true.
That's pretty much what happens when I say that Jimmy Page sucks. He does suck. So much. And there are of course, those who say he doesn't. Those who say it doesn't matter. Those who say he did kinda suck and people like you who say "BUT HE HAZ A LOTSA MONEY LAWLZ!!!111!1!1!!"
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Nope, what's sad is your admisson that you troll around internet forums trying to annoy people. Your attempt to bring Fred into this is embarrasing. You should stop now before you make a bigger fool of yourself. But of course you won't, because trolls like you crave attention, as you've admitted above.
Sebastian · Member since
Being a serious musician has nothing to do with being a good politician.
Major Tom · Member since
Well, IMO, the best work he´s done is the "Back to the light" album. Through and through a brilliant album with lots of emotion and since it´s a "concept album"(I like ém, ok!), I tend to listen to it a lot. Resurrection, Back to the light, Last horizon, brilliant...
Major Tom · Member since
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
We'd have to see which ones really liked Page and which ones grew up listening to his (horrible) music and eventually named him among musical influences because of that. Besides, I don't think any important musician would go and say OK, LED ZEPPELIN IS CRAP, because it's not clever to do so, it's not polite and you won't change people's minds.
[b]On the other hand, I can allow myself to say it as much as I want and piss idiots off, which I love doing[/b]. And yes, Page DOES suck. There is a HUGE difference between being somewhat sloppy (as Eddie Van Halen live, during the early years) and being an utter disaster/a motherfucker that should have never picked up a guitar.
I also think his songs are poor and terrible. It's ridiculous how his bandmates didn't kick him out of the band. Plant eventually became a pretty good singer. John Paul Jones is great and Bonzo really improved during the years... yet Page always managed to suck. I mean... you can see John Paul Jones' WTF/LMFAO face during Jimmy's solos.
But one should always look on the bright side of life.
Maybe Page is a good cock, maybe he is an amazing tennis player!
[/QUOTE]
So while you're trolling around forums trying to annoy people, at around the same age, Page was a member of rock's most famous band, having the time of his life, and making millions of dollars. Okay....
[/QUOTE]
I think it's time you stopped repeating how much money Page did. It's clear for everyone that if you were to have a band, the last thing you'd care about is the music. You seem to love money so much, it's actually sad.
On the other hand, I'm not trolling. I'm stating something that it's incredibly true. Your reactions make me laugh, like when someone says FREDDIE MERCURY WAS GAY and lots of people cry and say:
a- "BUT HE WAS A GOOD SINGER!!!", when nobody said anything about his vocal skills in the first place.
b- "NO, HE WASN'T, HE WAS BISEXUAL", which is not true.
c- "YOU ARE HOMOPHOBIC", when nobody said anything about homosexuality being a bad thing, it was just stated that Freddie Mercury was, indeed, gay.
d- "OMFG OMFG WTF WTF LOLZOR"
But none of them actually says YES, HE WAS. Which he was and it's true and nobody can deny. Which, of course, has nothing to do with his music. And the statement itself doesn't say it's a good or a bad thing, it just says something that is true.
That's pretty much what happens when I say that Jimmy Page sucks. He does suck. So much. And there are of course, those who say he doesn't. Those who say it doesn't matter. Those who say he did kinda suck and people like you who say "BUT HE HAZ A LOTSA MONEY LAWLZ!!!111!1!1!!"
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Explain Mary and Barbara then.
john bodega · Member since
Of course he was a little bi. Everyone is (apparently).
mike hunt · Member since
It's obvious the man was gay, why is that such a problem for some people to understand.?...Mary was his beard, his coverup. Barbara slept with fred, that's very true, but the only problem is that freddie and barb would wake up next to a young man they picked up at the bar the night before. Obviously he loved mary, but physically she did nothing for him once he came out of the closet. Just look at behind the scenes of the video the great pretender. If that doesn't convince you the man was gay, then nothing will.
dragon-fly · Member since
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[b]Major Tom wrote: [/b]
Well, IMO, the best work he´s done is the "Back to the light" album. Through and through a brilliant album with lots of emotion and since it´s a "concept album"(I like ém, ok!), I tend to listen to it a lot. Resurrection, Back to the light, Last horizon, brilliant...[/QUOTE]
Man, what are you talking about? :D
