> Again, you don't need to press the trigger to kill someone.
Sure, and I respect that POV, which you didn't do when claimed mine was 'totally and absolutely wrong'.
> True, but Jews were the primary targets and victims.
Which is something I'll never be able to understand.
> Oh my god. You really are predantic.
Actually, I'm not. By definition, pedantic is something completely different.
> Of course, I don't mean that they would be alive right now.
TBF, some of them would.
> You don't have to take everything people say so literally.
Of course I don't, but if I want to, I'm not hurting anybody. BTW, I don't take 'everything' literally, but some things I do. It's my prerogative.
> No. I'm not going to structure my sentences on a Queen site so as to please the more literally minded
I didn't say 'you've got to rephrase', I said 'your sentence could be rephrased to...', and it could.
> I will write to my best ability what I mean, and people need to use common sense. I'm not writing an essay.
You don't need to write an essay to be clear. BTW, I'm not going around correcting people's style, I did it with you and with that particular sentence because you applied such yardstick when you said my POV was 'completely and absolutely wrong'. Had you respected a person whose opinion differs (and as you can see, the bottomline is that I also think those crimes were awful), I wouldn't have cared about your choice of words, and the incorrect use of 'still' in that case.
People make mistakes (of course, me included, loads of them), and I couldn't care less about that, except in some cases, like this one.
> We are unlikely to ever agree on whether Hitler killed people or had them killed. You say that he had them killed, however IMO he absolutely killed them.
Yes, and both POV's are respectable. Neither is 'totally and absolutely wrong'.
> it happened, it made the world we live in today, so sharrup.
I know that's not the topic of the thread, but there I slightly disagree: the present's not a result of the past, it's the next step, which isn't quite the same.
> John Paul Jones was IMO just about the greatest bass player of all time
Not even sort of close.
> while *Page was IMO a vastly superior guitarist to Blackmore
Not even sort of close.
> In comparison between their most famous songs, Smoke in the Water is wonderful, but Stairway remains IMO among the very greatest rock songs of all time and is flawless.
Actually, it's not flawless since it does have mistakes (flaws). It's a great, marvellous, wonderful, brilliant song, but it's not flawless.
> He was nowhere near as sloppy in the early days before he started taking alot of drugs, and it's unlikely that he would have been such a successful session musician who was the first choice to replace Clapton in the Yardbirds if he truly was that sloppy.
IMO, he was 'the next best thing' for what the Yardbirds needed. Which doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't sloppy.
> Technique isn't everything. Emotion, originilality, creativity, excitement, knowing what to play and what not to (in relations to the song) and making sure that one is servicing the song is also important.
But all those things (emotion, originality...) also have technique. Page excelled in some, not in others. And when it comes strictly to playing guitar, he was good, but not even close to one of the best.
> is also IMO incredibly forgettable (plus, it's all basically the same)
The forgettable point is completely subjective, it can't be measured. But the 'basically the same' bit can be measured and no: it's not basically the same.
> If a guitarist is original, creative, services the song, plays the right note in relation to the song, and makes you feel what he is playing or alternatively makes you feel awe, then IMO he's a great guitarist
Subjectively, I could even say Fred's the best guitarist ever because his six chords in [i]CLTCL[/i] make me feel in cloud nine (they don't, but just hypothetically speaking)... that thing can never be measured.
But objectively speaking, there are loads of parametres to assess a guitarist's ability. And Jimmy, while very good, is not even close to one of the best ever.
> (Incidentally, I think that Brian does all this as well).
But Brian does it playing a hell of a lot better.
> Music is there to be heard. Dazed & Confused is my favourite Zeppelin song, but Stairway features my favourite solo, and I would rather listen to the Stairway solo a million times than a solo by some technically superior but IMO actually inferior guitarists once, such as Malmsteen.
If it's technically superior, it's not an inferior guitarist.
> Malmsteen only made 4 or 5 records, the rest is more of the same. But fuck, can he play!
And he's a wonderful composer too. Or at least he was.
> You can't say he's not original but Stairway to Heaven is... you have to be kidding. Malmsteen can be a Bach-ripoff and everything but Stairway to Heaven has that OBVIOUS "reinassance" vibe to it... how can THAT be original?
Actually, everything 'original' took its roots from something else. There's always a proto-idea... anyway, if [i]Rising Force[/i] isn't original because of the progression then neither is [i]Stairway[/i]: chromatic line-cliché (thousands of songs had that before), i > V > VII > IV > VI > i prograssion (also quite generic), the solo's basically pentatonic exercises ... the song's excellent and everything, but it's not more original than things Malmsteen did. Something can be un-original and still great anyway.
> Well it's really very simple. Blackmore did things that Page could never do, but Page never did anything that Blackmore couldn't do.
I disagree: for a great guitarist like Blackmore, it must be really difficult to play that sloppily. It's like asking the Berlin Philharmonic to play like The Ramones.
> from best guitar work by brian may this topic became purple vs zeppelin. i like both bands. i'm from croatia and i have to say that here purple are more loved than zeppelin and smoke on the water is more famous and well known than stairway to heaven
There you go: the world's not just the States and Canada.
Holly2003 · Member since
Here's a list of countries that are also not the United States or Canada.
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Afghanistan
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Akrotiri
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Albania
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Algeria
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American Samoa
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Andorra
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Angola
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Anguilla
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Antarctica
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Argentina
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Armenia
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Aruba
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Ashmore and Cartier Islands
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Australia
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Austria
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Azerbaijan
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Bahamas, The
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Bahrain
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Bangladesh
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Barbados
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Bassas da India
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Belarus
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Belgium
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Belize
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Benin
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Bermuda
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Bhutan
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Bolivia
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Bosnia and Herzegovina
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Botswana
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Bouvet Island
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Brazil
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British Indian Ocean Territory
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British Virgin Islands
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Brunei
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Bulgaria
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Burkina Faso
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Burma
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Burundi
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Cambodia
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Cameroon
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Cape Verde
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Cayman Islands
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Central African Republic
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Chad
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Chile
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China
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Christmas Island
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Clipperton Island
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Cocos (Keeling) Islands
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Colombia
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Comoros
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Congo, Democratic Republic of the
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Congo, Republic of the
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Cook Islands
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Coral Sea Islands
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Costa Rica
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Cote d'Ivoire
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Croatia
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Cuba
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Cyprus
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Czech Republic
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Denmark
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Dhekelia
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Djibouti
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Dominica
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Dominican Republic
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Ecuador
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Egypt
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El Salvador
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Equatorial Guinea
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Eritrea
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Estonia
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Ethiopia
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Europa Island
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Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas)
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Faroe Islands
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Fiji
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Finland
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France
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French Guiana
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French Polynesia
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French Southern and Antarctic Lands
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Gabon
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Gambia, The
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Gaza Strip
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Georgia
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Germany
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Ghana
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Gibraltar
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Glorioso Islands
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Greece
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Greenland
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Grenada
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Guadeloupe
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Guam
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Guatemala
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Guernsey
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Guinea
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Guinea-Bissau
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Guyana
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Haiti
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Heard Island and McDonald Islands
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Holy See (Vatican City)
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Honduras
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Hong Kong
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Hungary
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Iceland
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India
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Indonesia
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Iran
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Iraq
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Ireland
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Isle of Man
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Israel
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Italy
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Jamaica
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Jan Mayen
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Japan
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Jersey
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Jordan
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Juan de Nova Island
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Kazakhstan
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Kenya
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Kiribati
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Korea, North
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Korea, South
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Kuwait
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Kyrgyzstan
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Laos
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Latvia
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Lebanon
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Lesotho
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Liberia
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Libya
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Liechtenstein
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Lithuania
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Luxembourg
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Macau
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Macedonia
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Madagascar
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Malawi
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Malaysia
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Maldives
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Mali
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Malta
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Marshall Islands
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Martinique
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Mauritania
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Mauritius
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Mayotte
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Mexico
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Micronesia, Federated States of
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Moldova
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Monaco
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Mongolia
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Montserrat
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Morocco
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Mozambique
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Namibia
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Nauru
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Navassa Island
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Nepal
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Netherlands
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Netherlands Antilles
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New Caledonia
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New Zealand
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Nicaragua
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Niger
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Nigeria
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Niue
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Norfolk Island
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Northern Mariana Islands
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Norway
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Oman
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Pakistan
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Palau
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Panama
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Papua New Guinea
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Paracel Islands
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Paraguay
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Peru
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Philippines
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Pitcairn Islands
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Poland
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Portugal
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Puerto Rico
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Qatar
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Reunion
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Romania
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Russia
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Rwanda
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Saint Helena
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Saint Kitts and Nevis
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Saint Lucia
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Saint Pierre and Miquelon
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Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
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Samoa
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San Marino
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Sao Tome and Principe
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Saudi Arabia
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Senegal
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Serbia and Montenegro
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Seychelles
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Sierra Leone
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Singapore
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Slovakia
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Slovenia
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Solomon Islands
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Somalia
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South Africa
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South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
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Spain
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Sri Lanka
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Sudan
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Suriname
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Svalbard
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Swaziland
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Sweden
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Switzerland
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Syria
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Taiwan
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Tajikistan
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Tanzania
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Thailand
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Timor-Leste
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Togo
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Tokelau
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Tonga
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Trinidad and Tobago
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Tromelin Island
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Tunisia
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Turkey
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Turkmenistan
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Turks and Caicos Islands
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Tuvalu
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Uganda
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Ukraine
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United Arab Emirates
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United Kingdom
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Uruguay
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Uzbekistan
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Vanuatu
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Venezuela
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Vietnam
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Virgin Islands
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Wake Island
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Wallis and Futuna
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West Bank
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Yemen
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Zambia
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Zimbabwe
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
Still haven't answered my question Seb. Purple and Smoke could mean SFA in Myanmar and Bolivia while Zep and Stairway rule there. Does that mean the world is bigger than Croatia and the country you live, therefore your opinion is wrong? Of course not. You selectively choose arguments to fit your position without accepting anybody's else's POV, even if they are fact based. So forgetting things that the world has used for years (record sales, concert tix sales, radio airplay, position in the eyse of the community), what crtiteria OTHER than how you feel can make you state with certainty that DP is even in the same league as LZ? Your argument that Croatia siding with DP is meaningless. Croatia is zero in tems of influence on the rock market, population, sales etc. Zero. So give me your criteria for determining this, because other than your opinion, which is no greater or worse than mine, you can't give any valid facts as to how DP is regarded as the ultimate heavy rock band. Not one.
Sebastian · Member since
> Still haven't answered my question Seb.
Which is your question anyway?
> Purple and Smoke could mean SFA in Myanmar and Bolivia while Zep and Stairway rule there.
Maybe. Which brings again my 'the world has more countries than the States and Canada'.
> Does that mean the world is bigger than Croatia and the country you live, therefore your opinion is wrong?
Do you even know which is my opinion? Seriously, because I get the impression you don't.
> You selectively choose arguments to fit your position without accepting anybody's else's POV
Again, I can accept other people's POV (maybe the one who can't is not me, but you). What I disagreed with, from the start, was something you wrote about DP not being able to get to people's consciousness in the way LZ did. And I still disagree with it because:
- DP get to DP fans in the same way LZ get to LZ fans, GD to GD fans, etc.
- Sales result from too many variables, hence, this is not 'fact-based'.
I also disagreed with your use of the word 'gods' to refer to LZ, because they're simply not. And of course I know you didn't mean 'gods' as in 'almighty supernatural creatures' (or maybe you did?), but still.
> even if they are fact based.
Saying LZ outsold DP is fact-based; saying LZ get to people's consciousness more than DP is not because ... again, too many variables.
> So forgetting things that the world has used for years (record sales, concert tix sales, radio airplay, position in the eyse of the community)
Record sales can be measured, but they result from too many variables.
Same for concert tickets.
Radio airplay... actually, that one's a lot more difficult to establish.
Position in the eyes of community: unless you've asked each person on the planet, can only be speculated.
My point is: judging by the impact DP and LZ have had on society, which stems from loads and loads of things (from something as simple as seeing Angus Young playing [i]SotW[/i] in TaaHM), I think LZ and DP are in the same level. Agree? Fine. Disagree? Fine.
> Croatia is zero in tems of influence on the rock market, population, sales etc. Zero.
No, not zero. And then again, I don't mean same league in the rock market, I mean same league, full stop. Agree? Fine. Disagree? Fine. But Croatia is a country, and it counts as much as the States, Russia, Burkina Faso or Papua New Guinea.
> So give me your criteria for determining this
Influence, covers, use of songs in popular culture, etc. According to all of that, they're in the same league IMO, same as the Stones, Queen, Beatles and a couple more. They're the 'Peles' and 'Maradonas' of your metaphor. The 'Beckhams' would be people like Blink-182, Foo Fighters or Placebo. But not DP.
> because other than your opinion, which is no greater or worse than mine, you can't give any valid facts as to how DP is regarded as the ultimate heavy rock band.
I never said DP are regarded as the ultimate rock band, I said they get to their fans' consciousness just as much as LZ to their own, etc. And I said that they're also in that podium (their 'Machine Head' era stuff, at least). And I still stand y both.
> Not one.
So? Why are you so interested in whether I provide data on DP's impact or not? I still stand by my point: they're in the same league as LZ in terms of cultural impact (which can't be measured by record sales, BTW). Agree? Fine. Disagree? Fine.
Holly2003 · Member since
I'd like to broaden the discussion. These are the top ten planets on which Deep Purple is less well known than Zeppelin. On planets marked with a *, Purple are completely unknown:
1. Klingon home world (aka Kronos)
2. Alderaan
3. Earth
4. Planet of the Apes*
5. Altair 4
6. Krypton*
7. Kobol
8. Mongo*
9. Andoria
10. Tatooine
Here are the top ten planets (out of an infinite list) in which it is unacceptable to compare Jimmy Page to Hitler
Agree to disagree Seb. However, and only because I have near total recall, I will take you to task over this. When you say, "position in the eyes of community: unless you've asked each person on the planet, can only be speculated", you once stated with great certainty in another thread about Brian's ability as a guitarist, that Brian couldn't play the solo for Paradise City. I can't argue with this, you are certain of your opinion, as you are stating that so and so wrote this part for the song, and use past track records to "prove" your point. I love reading that stuff, it's fascinatng and a great help to the board. But what you are saying is that Roger, for example, couldn't have written Bohemian Rhapsody because he wrote simpler songs, or John couldn't have come up with the harmony guitars on Misfire as nothing would indicate he could do that. But that proves nothing. Unless you see Brian attempt to play Paradise City, and fail, your proofs are as valid or as meaningless as my sales facts and figures, or perceptions what the community at large feels about the two groups. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]I'm not trying to change your mind, but as you say, BTTL in your humble opinion is better than any Queen album. To which the man on the street would "What's a back to the light?" BTTL, in the biggest combined established rock market in the world, is unknown. Queen are monstrous. Again, sales are but a factor and to me Long Away is infinitely superior to AOBTD, but you can't dismiss popularity as a factor, or the factor in determining a group's stature. I detest Madonna, but she is a successful influential pop artist over the last quarter of a century. Over here, Kylie Minogue had a single or two then faded away. She is nothing compared to Madonna, but I understand as big in other territories. But you can't dismiss North America as a market (too big) and cherry pick to say Kylie's bigger in Germany or Czech Republic so that means they are equal artists. bigger in Deep Purple, in the biggest established rock market in the world is comparatively unknown compared to Zep using any criteria that can be accepted, apart from feelings. And again, I'm not a Zep fan, just sharing the view from this side of the pond.[/QUOTE]
cacatua · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
I'd like to broaden the discussion. These are the top ten planets on which Deep Purple is less well known than Zeppelin. On planets marked with a *, Purple are completely unknown:
1. Klingon home world (aka Kronos)
2. Alderaan
3. Earth
4. Planet of the Apes*
5. Altair 4
6. Krypton*
7. Kobol
8. Mongo*
9. Andoria
10. Tatooine
Here are the top ten planets (out of an infinite list) in which it is unacceptable to compare Jimmy Page to Hitler
[/QUOTE]
Don't forget Giedi Prime, Arrakis and Caladan!
queenside · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
Still haven't answered my question Seb. Purple and Smoke could mean SFA in Myanmar and Bolivia while Zep and Stairway rule there. Does that mean the world is bigger than Croatia and the country you live, therefore your opinion is wrong? Of course not. You selectively choose arguments to fit your position without accepting anybody's else's POV, even if they are fact based. So forgetting things that the world has used for years (record sales, concert tix sales, radio airplay, position in the eyse of the community), what crtiteria OTHER than how you feel can make you state with certainty that DP is even in the same league as LZ? Your argument that Croatia siding with DP is meaningless. Croatia is zero in tems of influence on the rock market, population, sales etc. Zero. So give me your criteria for determining this, because other than your opinion, which is no greater or worse than mine, you can't give any valid facts as to how DP is regarded as the ultimate heavy rock band. Not one.
[/QUOTE]
POV didn't wrote this about croatia, i did. i know croatia is very small market but i was writing about the country where i live and i'm hanging with a lot of people listening to rock music and most of them prefer purple over zeppelin. again, i know it doesn't mean anything, i'm just saying it and i'm not trying to prove and give you any valid facts as to how DP is regarded as the ultimate heavy rock band. i won't get drag in this pointless conversation purple vs zeppelin. what's the point? i like more band x, you y and one of them is more commercially successful and what does that mean? nothing, i'm not judging bands by their commercial success, i'm judging them by the way they make me feel, by their music
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
I agree and understand what you're saying, Queenside, and in no way am I dismissing the merits of any country. Your point of how Purple's music makes you feel is how Purple and Zeppelin's music makes people feel in North America, only exponentially more people feel that way about Zep than Purple. And honestly, as I don't like either of these bands a whole lot ;), I'm not trying to change anyone's minds. But their no disputing whatsoever, personal opinions aside, of the stature of these two bands in North America. Zeppelin is like Star Wars, Purple like a great indie film. Both have merits, but no one in their right mind over here would even think of comparing the two. Zep and Aerosmith, Zep and AC/DC? Sure over here. Zep and Purple? Not a conversation at all, and that doesn't diminish Purple's abilities or career, they are truly a middle of pack band here, end of story. End of my story here too!
Sebastian · Member since
> you once stated with great certainty in another thread about Brian's ability as a guitarist, that Brian couldn't play the solo for Paradise City.
If I did, then I take it back. There may be some GnR songs out of Brian's reach, but PC isn't one of them.
> as you are stating that so and so wrote this part for the song, and use past track records to "prove" your point.
Not to 'prove', but to back it up. As I state in :
'All of the information found in this website has been carfefully checked and verified as much as possible. It still does NOT mean it's a 100% error-proof research (even the people who were there make mistakes about stuff) but it does ensure that it's way more than mere speculation and guessing'
> But what you are saying is that Roger, for example, couldn't have written Bohemian Rhapsody because he wrote simpler songs,
It's actually much more than 'simple' and 'complex' songs. At the end of the day, a person's writing style (be it music, poetry, essay, etc) is unique and particular, like one's voice, accent (idiolect), scent or fingerprint. As in detective investigations, evidence is the ultimate 'proof' (note the inverted commas), but of course there's always an error margin when it's being analysed by humans (because us humans are liable to make mistakes).
As it's been said earlier, the fact it cannot be a 100% error-proof definitive research doesn't mean it hasn't got to be done; and the fact it's not an absolute certainty doesn't mean it's mere and pure speculation.
> or John couldn't have come up with the harmony guitars on Misfire
Actually, he could, and he did.
> as nothing would indicate he could do that.
It's much more than that agin. And again, there are too many variables.
> But that proves nothing.
Actually, it does, it proves a lot. It doesn't prove everything, it can't. But 'it doesn't prove everything' is different to 'it proves nothing'.
> Unless you see Brian attempt to play Paradise City, and fail, your proofs are as valid or as meaningless as my sales facts and figures
It's a different case: if you find A sold 1,001 and B sold 1,000 it proves A outsold B, full stop. But it doesn't necessarily prove A is deeper in the public's mind than B.
If May struggled to sing a tenor C and only barely hit a D or E, then he definitely couldn't get to the soprano A, full stop. If Page couldn't play some of his own stuff well, then he wouldn't be able to master Vai's solos, full stop. But neither necessarily proves May's a 'worse' singer than Roger (for instance) or that Jimmy's shite (IMO, he isn't).
> or perceptions what the community at large feels about the two groups.
I'm not devalidating your point, I'm saying I disagree, and in fact, this is not an absolute matter. Let me use another example:
A says [i]Don't Try So Hard[/i] has a higher peak note than [i]The Show Must Go On[/i]
B says [i]The Show Must Go On[/i] has a higher peak note than [i]Don't Try So Hard[/i]
If they don't peak on the same note (they don't), then one of them is wrong and that's it, full stop. In that case, BTW, B is wrong.
A says [i]DTSH[/i] is better than [i]TSMGO[/i], B says the opposite. In that case there's no way to tell, and neither A or B are absolutely right or absolutely wrong.
If you claim LZ's outsold DP, it's like the higher note thing: you're either right or you're not (and you are right, BTW). If you claim LZ gets to people's consciousness more than DP, there are (sorry for the broken record) 'too many variables', and it becomes like the 'better' thing.
> BTTL, in the biggest combined established rock market in the world, is unknown. Queen are monstrous.
Yes but it's a totally different case: Deep Purple are NOT unknown, neither are their signature songs. If I were to say 'Foo Fighters are in the same league as Aerosmith (regarding how famous they are and how much they've influenced pop culture)' that'd be preposterous. [i]That[/i] would be Beckham vs Pele, or (I forgot the name of the director or filmmaker you wrote about earlier) vs Spielberg.
But DP vs LZ is not Beckham vs Pele, it's Bobby Charlton vs George Best ... for some people, Charlton is way bigger than Best; for others, it's the other way around. In certain territories, one's more famous than the other, in others it's the other way around, in others it's fairly equal. Same for DP vs LZ: in some parts of the world, DP are deeper in people's consciousness, LZ are, and in others it's more or less an equal influence with loads of bands covering both of their catalogue, loads of statios playing both [i]Stairway[/i] and [i]Smoke[/i] with more or less the same frequency, etc. That, to me, is 'being in the same league'. Agree? Fine. Disagree? Fine.
> Again, sales are but a factor and to me Long Away is infinitely superior to AOBTD, but you can't dismiss popularity as a factor, or the factor in determining a group's stature.
I'm not dismissing popularity as a factor, I'm saying that DP and LZ are in the same league (unlike AOBTD and LA).
> I detest Madonna, but she is a successful influential pop artist over the last quarter of a century.
She's got some good stuff, but I also dislike her in general terms.
> Over here, Kylie Minogue had a single or two then faded away. She is nothing compared to Madonna, but I understand as big in other territories.
Yes, but in that case Madonna is still a much bigger figure. That [i]is[/i] Pele vs Beckham. DP vs LZ isn't.
> But you can't dismiss North America as a market (too big)
Actually, I can, but I'd be wrong in doing so.
> and cherry pick to say Kylie's bigger in Germany or Czech Republic so that means they are equal artists.
Well, yes: the world is much more than the States and Canada.
> bigger in Deep Purple, in the biggest established rock market in the world is comparatively unknown compared to Zep using any criteria that can be accepted, apart from feelings.
I didn't say 'DP are equal to LZ in the biggest established rock market' (which is also a debatable point BTW), I said 'DP get to peoples consciousness just as much as LZ', which I still stand by. And I also said 'DP are in the same league', which I also stand by. And I can elaborate: 'DP and LZ are, in terms of worldwide cultural impact and influence, in the same league'.
> And again, I'm not a Zep fan
Neither am I, and I'm not a DP fan either,
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
Thanks Seb, I always find your stuff very entertaining and knowledgeable, good to have people like you on this board keeping it going with intelligent, well thought out positions. Cheers.
Sebastian · Member since
I think we can go back to Brian's guitar work now ;)
Qrock, when opening the thread, posted: 'Just make a list and rate his guitar work on each studio album.'
Now, that would be very interesting, who wants to start?
Sebastian · Member since
My favourite piece of work played (not necessarily composed) by Brian on electric guitar, for each album, is:
[i]Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll:[/i] What a solo!
[i]White Queen: [/i]The electric choir after the long acoustic interlude. Brilliant.
[i]Lap of the Gods:[/i] Strong and astonishing choir during the intro. Short but defining.
[i]'39:[/i] I adore [i]Good Company[/i] and is my second favourite Queen song, but [i]'39[/i] is the first so... great bell-effects.
[i]Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy:[/i] Gotta love those antihponies.
[i]All Dead:[/i] Better than loads of killer solos.
[i]Dreamer's Ball:[/i] Wonderful intro. My third favourite Queen song (used to be second).
[i]Save Me: [/i]The choir near the last cycle is just brilliant.
[i]Flash's Theme:[/i] There's a choir in 'with a mighty Flash' which always sends shivers down my spine.
[i]Dancer: [/i]Lovely harmonies, too simple but fitting for the track. I actually like that song a lot.
[i]It's a Hard Life: [/i]The antiphonies at the end of the solo. Gorgeous!
[i]Who Wants to Live Forever:[/i] One of his best solos ever.
[i]Was It All Worth It?:[/i] Another marvellous solo.
[i]Days of Our Lives:[/i] My favourite solo from him in Queen records.
[i]Made in Heaven: [/i]The wall of sound in the intro is just superb.
mike hunt · Member since
favorite guitar work on each album.
Queen- liar
Queen2- father to son/white Queen
SHA- Flick of the wrist
ANATO- Good company
ADATR- tie your mother down/millionare waltz
NOTW- It's late
Jazz- Dreamers ball
the game- Save me
flash- wedding march
hot space- Life is real
the works- It's a hard life
Magic- Princess of the universe
the miracle- title track/was it all worth it
Innuendo- don't try so hard/slightly mad
MIH- A winters tale
Matias Merçeauroix · Member since
Favourite guitar work on each album
Queen - My Fairy King and Keep Yourself Alive.
Queen II - White Queen and Fairy Feller's Master Stroke.
Sheer Heart Attack - Killer Queen (of course), and Lily of the Valley.
A Night At The Opera - LOVE OF MY LIFE, Death on Two Legs and Good Company (even tho I'm not a great fan of that song).
A Day At The Races - The Millionaire Waltz (which is, IMO, Brian's best guitar work EVER), Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy and Teo Torriatte.
News of the World - Spread Your Wings and We Are The Champions.
Jazz - ANYTHING but Fat Bottomed Girls, If You Can't Beat Them, Let Me Entertain You, Fun It and More of that Jazz.
The Game - Play The Game, Save Me and Sail Away Sweet Sister.
Hot Space - None, actually, but if I had to choose... maybe Back Chat, but the Milton Keynes version. Brian pulls a Jimmy Page on the album!
The Works - It's A Hard Life and Keep Passing the Open Windows.
A Kind of Magic - Friends Will Be Friends, A Kind of Magic and Princes of the Universe.
The Miracle - The Miracle.
Innuendo - I'm Going Slightly Mad and The Show Must Go On.
Made in Heaven - EVERY DAMN NOTE HE PLAYS, except Mother Love.
