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The Real Wizard
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I wonder what marry austin thinks right about now?........[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
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The fact that Jim is dead probably has had little impact on her, aside from the thought that karma is treating her well. She was Freddie's only true friend, as indicated by the fact that she didn't feel the need to cash in on a dead man's private life by writing a tell-all book. I'm sure she's well aware of her good fortune.
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I wonder what marry austin thinks right about now?........[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
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The fact that Jim is dead probably has had little impact on her, aside from the thought that karma is treating her well. She was Freddie's only true friend, as indicated by the fact that she didn't feel the need to cash in on a dead man's private life by writing a tell-all book. I'm sure she's well aware of her good fortune.
Jaymz770
He's with Freddie now, I'm sure of it :(
RIP Jim.
RIP Jim.
i_like_1981
Never heard about this on the news... only found out through the Queenzone newsletter sent to my email.
Rest in peace.
Best regards,
i_like_1981
Rest in peace.
Best regards,
i_like_1981
mike hunt
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
I wonder what marry austin thinks right about now?........[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
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The fact that Jim is dead probably has had little impact on her, aside from the thought that karma is treating her well. She was Freddie's only true friend, as indicated by the fact that she didn't feel the need to cash in on a dead man's private life by writing a tell-all book. I'm sure she's well aware of her good fortune.
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yea, but I'm sure freddie and Jims relationship was also special. Those old pics of freddie and mary were beautiful though. Mary was a a beautiful woman. Stunning, still looks good now.
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
I wonder what marry austin thinks right about now?........[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
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The fact that Jim is dead probably has had little impact on her, aside from the thought that karma is treating her well. She was Freddie's only true friend, as indicated by the fact that she didn't feel the need to cash in on a dead man's private life by writing a tell-all book. I'm sure she's well aware of her good fortune.
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yea, but I'm sure freddie and Jims relationship was also special. Those old pics of freddie and mary were beautiful though. Mary was a a beautiful woman. Stunning, still looks good now.
Pim Derks
I would've done Mary in the 70's. Before Freddy ofcourse, don't want to get the gayaids!
mike hunt
I hate these ignorant remarks people make, what gayaids are you talking about?...didn't you're mother ever teach you respect?....instead of talking smack on the internet?
GratefulFan
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
I wonder what marry austin thinks right about now?........[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
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The fact that Jim is dead probably has had little impact on her, aside from the thought that karma is treating her well. She was Freddie's only true friend, as indicated by the fact that she didn't feel the need to cash in on a dead man's private life by writing a tell-all book. I'm sure she's well aware of her good fortune.
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Both the Freestone and the Hutton books served Freddie very well. Without them, the general biographers and the tabloid press would have presided over a public record much less flattering, and much more superficial and sensationalized when the reality was a kind, funny, generous, dedicated and complex person. The books were 5% detail that might be considered salacious (drug use, sex, Freddie's death) and 95% devotion to a friend, employer and in Jim's case romantic partner. You can't know that the motive was to 'cash in' - particularly given that Hutton has given alternate and credible reasons for the book - and you certainly can't elevate Mary's moral authority because she didn't 'cash in' given that she was left a personal fortune in perpetuity.
I do understand the feeling that NOT writing a book is more consistent with friendship and loyalty and with Freddie's own reticence about his private life, and there's truth in that, but I think it ignores the actual nature of these books and most importantly what would have otherwise filled the vacuum.
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
I wonder what marry austin thinks right about now?........[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
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The fact that Jim is dead probably has had little impact on her, aside from the thought that karma is treating her well. She was Freddie's only true friend, as indicated by the fact that she didn't feel the need to cash in on a dead man's private life by writing a tell-all book. I'm sure she's well aware of her good fortune.
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Both the Freestone and the Hutton books served Freddie very well. Without them, the general biographers and the tabloid press would have presided over a public record much less flattering, and much more superficial and sensationalized when the reality was a kind, funny, generous, dedicated and complex person. The books were 5% detail that might be considered salacious (drug use, sex, Freddie's death) and 95% devotion to a friend, employer and in Jim's case romantic partner. You can't know that the motive was to 'cash in' - particularly given that Hutton has given alternate and credible reasons for the book - and you certainly can't elevate Mary's moral authority because she didn't 'cash in' given that she was left a personal fortune in perpetuity.
I do understand the feeling that NOT writing a book is more consistent with friendship and loyalty and with Freddie's own reticence about his private life, and there's truth in that, but I think it ignores the actual nature of these books and most importantly what would have otherwise filled the vacuum.
plumrach
Re jim's book i dont think it was right of him to complain about mary in his book, if Freddie really did want Jim to stay in the house he would of got something done legally but he didnt and myself in Mary's shoes would of done the same thing
Mary was probably the only person that never judged him on his private life and she deserved the get the house and most of his estate for her loyalty and the love and respect she clearly had for him
Mary was probably the only person that never judged him on his private life and she deserved the get the house and most of his estate for her loyalty and the love and respect she clearly had for him
The Real Wizard
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Both the Freestone and the Hutton books served Freddie very well. Without them, the general biographers and the tabloid press would have presided over a public record much less flattering, and much more superficial and sensationalized when the reality was a kind, funny, generous, dedicated and complex person.
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Fair. I will definitely give you that. But if Freddie were still alive, would the books have been published? That's why I think it's pretty clear that these books were cash-ins at least to some extent, since Freestone was out of a high-paying job, and Jim didn't get much from the will.
Freddie was a very private person, and I highly doubt he would have told his friends to make the public aware of all the things he kept from them during his life. However positive or negative these things ultimately were, the public were not entitled to them. By doing this, these people who claimed to be Freddie's good friends absolutely stabbed him in the back.
[b]GratefulFan wrote: [/b]
Both the Freestone and the Hutton books served Freddie very well. Without them, the general biographers and the tabloid press would have presided over a public record much less flattering, and much more superficial and sensationalized when the reality was a kind, funny, generous, dedicated and complex person.
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Fair. I will definitely give you that. But if Freddie were still alive, would the books have been published? That's why I think it's pretty clear that these books were cash-ins at least to some extent, since Freestone was out of a high-paying job, and Jim didn't get much from the will.
Freddie was a very private person, and I highly doubt he would have told his friends to make the public aware of all the things he kept from them during his life. However positive or negative these things ultimately were, the public were not entitled to them. By doing this, these people who claimed to be Freddie's good friends absolutely stabbed him in the back.
Pim Derks
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By doing this, these people who claimed to be Freddie's good friends absolutely stabbed him in the back.
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Ofcourse they stabbed him in the back, he was gay for god's sake - he enjoyed that!
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By doing this, these people who claimed to be Freddie's good friends absolutely stabbed him in the back.
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Ofcourse they stabbed him in the back, he was gay for god's sake - he enjoyed that!
The Real Wizard
Haha... ! You rule.
4 x Vision
Just read his book... bit better than freestone's, not bad read... but not great either. The ending is definitely sadder than Phoebe's. Strange they differ on the finer points of what happened as he passed away? Best bit was Live Aid description backstage.
Seems to have written it to me for cash purposes AND ironically to prove that HE was Freddie's "husband", even though he frequently said in the book he didn't care that Freddie was a famous singer, it didn't impress him.
I actually felt that he was quite sad in that he clearly catches Freddie cheating on him more than once, but still goes back to him. Also he claims he wants to pay his way, but took thousands of him in gifts and "loans".
I challenge that he wasn't actually "married" to him... the fact that he got the same as Joe and Phoebe possibly shows that he wasn't as big a part in his love life as he made out. Surely his civil partner would get considerably more than those two?
Mary's writing a book wouldn't be cashing in I don't think... if it was written and structured properly. i think it could be a great read and the closest you'd get to the real Freddie. Doubt she'll ever do it though.
Seems to have written it to me for cash purposes AND ironically to prove that HE was Freddie's "husband", even though he frequently said in the book he didn't care that Freddie was a famous singer, it didn't impress him.
I actually felt that he was quite sad in that he clearly catches Freddie cheating on him more than once, but still goes back to him. Also he claims he wants to pay his way, but took thousands of him in gifts and "loans".
I challenge that he wasn't actually "married" to him... the fact that he got the same as Joe and Phoebe possibly shows that he wasn't as big a part in his love life as he made out. Surely his civil partner would get considerably more than those two?
Mary's writing a book wouldn't be cashing in I don't think... if it was written and structured properly. i think it could be a great read and the closest you'd get to the real Freddie. Doubt she'll ever do it though.
GlasgowFan
Have only just heard the news. Wish i'd read the newsletter earlier on (a bit behind on my e-mails).
Sad to hear of Jim's passing. He was the one true lover Freddie ever had and was with him to his untimely demise. I've read the book with Jim telling how Freddie's last days were and they will always stay in my mind. Now that he has gone from our world he'll now be back with Freddie, sharing a laugh and having a good time like they were never apart. RIP Jim x
Sad to hear of Jim's passing. He was the one true lover Freddie ever had and was with him to his untimely demise. I've read the book with Jim telling how Freddie's last days were and they will always stay in my mind. Now that he has gone from our world he'll now be back with Freddie, sharing a laugh and having a good time like they were never apart. RIP Jim x