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mother is a very very good and sad song, freddie=god
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
But if it's Jimmy Page then he'd get electrocuted, fall on his back and break his spine. And cry in fetal position. And, obviously, failing to change the damn bulb.
And people (who don't know what to change a light bulb is) would give him a standing ovation and say he's the best light bulb changer ever.
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Then there are people, such as myself, who are fully aware of how to change a light bulb, and whom regard Page to be one of the greatest of all time. However even if you don't think he was one of the greatest, I am at a loss as to how anyone can think he was as crap as you seem to.
[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
But if it's Jimmy Page then he'd get electrocuted, fall on his back and break his spine. And cry in fetal position. And, obviously, failing to change the damn bulb.
And people (who don't know what to change a light bulb is) would give him a standing ovation and say he's the best light bulb changer ever.
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Then there are people, such as myself, who are fully aware of how to change a light bulb, and whom regard Page to be one of the greatest of all time. However even if you don't think he was one of the greatest, I am at a loss as to how anyone can think he was as crap as you seem to.
Vali
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[b]Soundfreak wrote: [/b]
This is one of the few Queen songs, that should have remainded unreleased.
It's a song about a dying man, who actually dies while making this song. This is simply too private.
And should not become part of discussions like "but the solo could be better"...
Those involved could not really give their best. And I doubt that they really knew how to handle this extreme situation.
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So, if it had been your decision, The Mracle, Innuendo and also MIH wouldn´t have been released,a s Freddie was already dying during those recording sessions.
So, after Innuendo, when Freddie kept recording as per his will, that was too private. Never had to be released, isn´t it ?
[b]Soundfreak wrote: [/b]
This is one of the few Queen songs, that should have remainded unreleased.
It's a song about a dying man, who actually dies while making this song. This is simply too private.
And should not become part of discussions like "but the solo could be better"...
Those involved could not really give their best. And I doubt that they really knew how to handle this extreme situation.
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So, if it had been your decision, The Mracle, Innuendo and also MIH wouldn´t have been released,a s Freddie was already dying during those recording sessions.
So, after Innuendo, when Freddie kept recording as per his will, that was too private. Never had to be released, isn´t it ?
Soundfreak
"So, after Innuendo, when Freddie kept recording as per his will, that was too private. Never had to be released, isn´t it ?"
Read my words carefully. Freddie Mercury could not even finish this song, that even lyrically was about his passing.
"Show must go on" went into a similar direction - but he could finish it .
I can fully understand that they wanted to work as long as they could for various reasons. But there is a fine line when it's better to stop. And this song goes too far for my taste.
Cause what is the intention of a song like this? What do they want the listener to make of it?
Definitely it's not entertaining....nor can we learn anything from that.
The only effect this song has on me is making me feel sad when I hear his weak voice and finally Brian May stepping in. I don't mind sad songs - but in this case there is way too much of the "real life" in it.
Read my words carefully. Freddie Mercury could not even finish this song, that even lyrically was about his passing.
"Show must go on" went into a similar direction - but he could finish it .
I can fully understand that they wanted to work as long as they could for various reasons. But there is a fine line when it's better to stop. And this song goes too far for my taste.
Cause what is the intention of a song like this? What do they want the listener to make of it?
Definitely it's not entertaining....nor can we learn anything from that.
The only effect this song has on me is making me feel sad when I hear his weak voice and finally Brian May stepping in. I don't mind sad songs - but in this case there is way too much of the "real life" in it.
Jimmy Dean
Seems like there's a few "book burners" in here.... well here's my 2 cents... Freddie OBVIOUSLY wanted to sing to get his mind off of things, and he OBVIOUSLY wanted to share it with others OTHERWISE why would he have RECORDED his vocals, or asked someone to be in the recording studio while he was singing... he DIDN'T want it to be private....
now how's about we take this up a notch... when you see REAL FOOTAGE of war-torn countries, some where battles are actually taking place, photographs or even actual footage of bloody corpses being carried or even laying on the ground....THIS is an axample of where the line has been crossed. One can even argue that this is the case of someone making a profit from someone's mortality (as in the case of Kevin Carter's demise). However, OBVIOUSLY the point in them (television studios) broadcasting this type of footage is because the public like to know the truth about the happenings in our world.
Now some might say art should not be equated with reality... I find that to be a stupid comment and an easy way to defend themselves against my comments...
There IS NOTHING morally wrong with releasing Mother Loave or even Brian's finishing the lyrics/vocals of the song...
now how's about we take this up a notch... when you see REAL FOOTAGE of war-torn countries, some where battles are actually taking place, photographs or even actual footage of bloody corpses being carried or even laying on the ground....THIS is an axample of where the line has been crossed. One can even argue that this is the case of someone making a profit from someone's mortality (as in the case of Kevin Carter's demise). However, OBVIOUSLY the point in them (television studios) broadcasting this type of footage is because the public like to know the truth about the happenings in our world.
Now some might say art should not be equated with reality... I find that to be a stupid comment and an easy way to defend themselves against my comments...
There IS NOTHING morally wrong with releasing Mother Loave or even Brian's finishing the lyrics/vocals of the song...
Matias Merçeauroix
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[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
But if it's Jimmy Page then he'd get electrocuted, fall on his back and break his spine. And cry in fetal position. And, obviously, failing to change the damn bulb.
And people (who don't know what to change a light bulb is) would give him a standing ovation and say he's the best light bulb changer ever.
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Then there are people, such as myself, who are fully aware of how to change a light bulb, and whom regard Page to be one of the greatest of all time. However even if you don't think he was one of the greatest, I am at a loss as to how anyone can think he was as crap as you seem to.
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Would you mind showing me?
[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
But if it's Jimmy Page then he'd get electrocuted, fall on his back and break his spine. And cry in fetal position. And, obviously, failing to change the damn bulb.
And people (who don't know what to change a light bulb is) would give him a standing ovation and say he's the best light bulb changer ever.
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Then there are people, such as myself, who are fully aware of how to change a light bulb, and whom regard Page to be one of the greatest of all time. However even if you don't think he was one of the greatest, I am at a loss as to how anyone can think he was as crap as you seem to.
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Would you mind showing me?
The Real Wizard
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[b]7Innuendo7 wrote: [/b]
imho one of the best tunes on MIH. I don't mind the guitar solo -- the mood of the tune and expressive lyrics about confronting mortality and still searching for love -- maybe that's the theme in Freddie's best songs[/QUOTE]
Ahh... wonderful post.
[b]7Innuendo7 wrote: [/b]
imho one of the best tunes on MIH. I don't mind the guitar solo -- the mood of the tune and expressive lyrics about confronting mortality and still searching for love -- maybe that's the theme in Freddie's best songs[/QUOTE]
Ahh... wonderful post.
Amazon
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
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[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
But if it's Jimmy Page then he'd get electrocuted, fall on his back and break his spine. And cry in fetal position. And, obviously, failing to change the damn bulb.
And people (who don't know what to change a light bulb is) would give him a standing ovation and say he's the best light bulb changer ever.
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Then there are people, such as myself, who are fully aware of how to change a light bulb, and whom regard Page to be one of the greatest of all time. However even if you don't think he was one of the greatest, I am at a loss as to how anyone can think he was as crap as you seem to.
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Would you mind showing me?
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I said that I know how to change a lightbulb, I didn't say that I was any good at it or that I could do it myself..
[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
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[b]Amazon wrote: [/b]
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[b]Funky Horsie wrote: [/b]
But if it's Jimmy Page then he'd get electrocuted, fall on his back and break his spine. And cry in fetal position. And, obviously, failing to change the damn bulb.
And people (who don't know what to change a light bulb is) would give him a standing ovation and say he's the best light bulb changer ever.
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Then there are people, such as myself, who are fully aware of how to change a light bulb, and whom regard Page to be one of the greatest of all time. However even if you don't think he was one of the greatest, I am at a loss as to how anyone can think he was as crap as you seem to.
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Would you mind showing me?
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I said that I know how to change a lightbulb, I didn't say that I was any good at it or that I could do it myself..
john bodega
The argument that "he was on the way out, therefore it should not have been released" is interesting but ultimately pointless. In the loosest terms, it applies to his home videos; not his art.
mike hunt
I find mother love very entertaining myself, and obviously freddie wanted his last songs released.
AlexakaRosco
One of three best songs ever written and released by the band!
And certainly, my fave of their 90's material!
And what a sensitive Brian solo here!
And certainly, my fave of their 90's material!
And what a sensitive Brian solo here!
Soundfreak
"There IS NOTHING morally wrong with releasing Mother Loave or even Brian's finishing the lyrics/vocals of the song... "
I think it's a bit over the top to compare a popsong with journalism about wars and other tragedies.
Also we can't turn back the clock and erase that song from the album. It's there and will always be there.
I found it mysterious when it came out. But in later years it became the main reason for me to "not" listen to the album. I don't want to hear how he died again and again. I prefer to remember him in his vital years.
You may find many reasons why a song documenting the slow dying of it's singer "has to be published". And you can find reasons, why this should remain private. And probably we will never agree.
You may take pictures of your dying grandma - I won't do it with my grandma.....
BTW..even in the Queen camp there must have been people, who also thought this was a private affair. Why else have they kept his illness a secret for so long and even denied it to the very end?
It was the day before he died, when they finally admitted it....
I don't blame them, there is no masterplan how to do everything right in a situation like that.
But I wish they had kept "Mother Love" in the archives and instead created the "legend" of the "unfinished final song" .... hidden away in a safe....that no on can finish as it is too heartbreaking......
That would have driven fans crazy and they would now endlessly speculate, what this song was like..[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
I think it's a bit over the top to compare a popsong with journalism about wars and other tragedies.
Also we can't turn back the clock and erase that song from the album. It's there and will always be there.
I found it mysterious when it came out. But in later years it became the main reason for me to "not" listen to the album. I don't want to hear how he died again and again. I prefer to remember him in his vital years.
You may find many reasons why a song documenting the slow dying of it's singer "has to be published". And you can find reasons, why this should remain private. And probably we will never agree.
You may take pictures of your dying grandma - I won't do it with my grandma.....
BTW..even in the Queen camp there must have been people, who also thought this was a private affair. Why else have they kept his illness a secret for so long and even denied it to the very end?
It was the day before he died, when they finally admitted it....
I don't blame them, there is no masterplan how to do everything right in a situation like that.
But I wish they had kept "Mother Love" in the archives and instead created the "legend" of the "unfinished final song" .... hidden away in a safe....that no on can finish as it is too heartbreaking......
That would have driven fans crazy and they would now endlessly speculate, what this song was like..[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]
emrabt
Are we sure it was THE last thing he
recorded, not just the last usable thing?
As in he recorded vocals and stuff after that just wasn’t strong enough.
There is a tendency to make the album mysterious, and the theme about death/
rebirth.
recorded, not just the last usable thing?
As in he recorded vocals and stuff after that just wasn’t strong enough.
There is a tendency to make the album mysterious, and the theme about death/
rebirth.
john bodega
It's still better than "Party" ....
Holly2003
I can't wait to hear one of the complaining fans play a better version of the solo. Not just one based around Brian's solo, but an original piece that still suits the song. That challenge went out a while ago, but still no takers...
Wonder why that is lol
Wonder why that is lol