Tiger Woods is a worthless Uncle Tom.

Haven't been here in a while, but..........the term used originally is, well..........full of crap.

Surprised there are no H1N1 virus comments on this thread................

The man had a problem (obviously).  I am upset that he used his squeeky clean image to con me.  And my wife.  And my daughter.  And others. 

At least with John Daly, I knew quite soon what he was all about.

His apology was, well, an apology.  At least I never had to stand in front of cameras and apologize in front of my mother about my sexual prowess (or lack thereof at certain times).

He is getting what he deserves.

Obviously Tiger Woods has no desire whatsoever to apologize.
...and why should he? As Lisser pointed out this is a personal matter between him and his family.

So why is he apologizing? Most likely from pressure by sponsors who are concerned about his public image.
It's all about the money.

I disagree with some of that Mr. J.  He certainly owes apologies to his business partners, some of whom poured enormous sums of money into campaigns built completely around him and the image he annihilated. Those companies have shareholders and investors, maybe even me or you through some mutual fund or other.  He owes apologies to his friends and family and associates who were bothered and photographed by media looking for dirt and information.  And I even think he owes a lot of those women more than a vague reference to 'the people I've hurt.'

The speech comes off contrived and hollow in part because the impersonal public forum makes it so, and because it's an unseemly display that feels every bit like the media forced ritual that it is.  I don't know what he owes his wife, but I'm pretty sure 'an apology' isn't it. Good people can stumble into affairs and stumble out bloodied and wiser people, but to me his conduct was such a profound failure of empathy and responsibility all around that I think he has a long, long road to a place where he's somebody anybody wants for a husband. He may never get there.  Character comes in part from hardship and suffering and a life defined almost solely by achievement and success doesn't generally serve one all that well in my observation. Like all of us, he is a product of his experience.

Many people will forget and settle back into appreciating him as an extraordinary athlete, but I think others are done with him for good.  There is something about a person that takes the security and  social and emotional benefits of marriage and children as their due without making a single one of the sacrifices that married people make every day  that will always grate on some.

Tiger woods is one lucky son of a bitch.

His wife forgives him after he gives the old bone to a hundred women.

Everytime I'm in a relationship, if I even say hello to a female, the girl I'm dating gets all jealous and won't forgive me for days, and then goes through my cell phone, my e-mail, my facebook inbox, and my myspace inbox, to see if I'm cheating on her.

Tiger Woods had not choice BUT to apologize, publicly.

You're talking about more money than anyone here on this site will ever see, let alone imagine.  This is the highest paid athlete, ever.  Tiger Woods stopped being a regular person 20 years ago.  He's a company, a machine.  There is no difference between Tiger apologizing than the President of Toyota apologizing.

Toyota will never be #1 again, no matter what they try to do.  Tiger, on the other hand, will win the Masters when he returns.  Gotta protect the brand name.

Don't worry girls, he'll be back in a month swinging that club.  He'll just handle it much better.  Pun intended.

He's a turd, plain and simple.  Cooked up his sob story to cover for the fact that he's a root rat.

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He's a turd, plain and simple.  Cooked up his sob story to cover for the fact that he's a root rat.[/QUOTE]
I find myself unwilling to summon the effort it would take for me to figure out if I think he's a turd.   I lean toward indifference.  Unless one is a fan of the techicalities of golf strategy and execution it seems there's little to care about with this guy one way or the other at this point. He's a role model for nothing and nobody, and even his legendary cool and focus is probably one more extension of a personality largely unfazed by needs and expectations of people who aren't him. I think I'm just mostly glad I'm not him, or anybody that needs to depend on him for anything that's actually important in life.

On another note,  Howard Stern had a Tiger Woods mistress beauty pageant last week.  Three of the women participated and the winner took home $75,000.  The second place woman won $15,000 and the third place woman won $10,000 and a 50" TV. The prize money came from ashleymadison.com.  What a world we live in. One notable thing was that the women ended up being judged on their stories as opposed to their physical appearance, though Howard being Howard the entire context was conducted in teeny bikinis, natch.

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I find myself unwilling to summon the effort it would take for me to figure out if I think he's a turd.   


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Effort?  Nah.  See, I default towards Turd.  Someone has to be pretty outstanding before they're anything else.

It does seem less than sincere that he is going back to playing so soon after saying that he didn't know when he would be ready.  All this has been planned in advance, I think.  He must have known exactly when he would be playing again.  Not that I'm a golf fan, so I don't care about whether he plays or not or how well he does, but he does seem to be staying true to his character (i.e. thinking he can get away with stuff), so that is interesting.  Ha!

I don't think it's too soon.  I mean it's what he does.  His is a career where excellence depends on focus and the perpetual application and tuning of multiple aspects of his physical and mental self.  There was a (kind of dumb, I thought) piece in the Washington Post today about why it shouldn't be the Masters, but he's got to come back sometime.

I think it is very possible that he knew he would be playing at the Masters before his statement to the press a few weeks ago - when he said that he didn't know when he would be able to go back to golf.  It is not a matter of when it was appropriate for him to go back, I think - but rather that some people feel that he was dishonest again (he was just playing the part).  I guess it can't be proven.  He probably has a team of people trying to help him with his public image, and maybe parts of that statement were what they thought sounded appropriate, rather than what he really was thinking.

Sorry if I misunderstood Donna.   I think that the whole press statement/apology is by definition so contrived for anybody dealing with public fallout from a private scandal that honesty shouldn't even really be expected.  There are a limited number of possible truths in this instance, and none of them would likely be very palatable.  If he can put his life back together it will be a pretty amazing feat.  Good luck to him.

I think it's silly that he's going for his masters.
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Quit being nosy....

Go drown a fish.