Micrówave
When I say guitar driven, I mean both electric and acoustic. The piano was only a snippet on most songs until the guitars took over... Killer Queen, Bohemian, etc.
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DanQueen2008
Flash Gordon is not out of print because although it is a soundtrack it is also a whole Queen album and is in Queen's back catalouge. Whereas other soundtracks belong the the owner of the movie. Other albums that are out of print are all of The Cross' albums unfortunately.
rhyeking
Dan is exactly right.
Parlophone (until this year) in the UK and Hollywood Records (since 1991) in the US are under contract to release Queen's entire album catalogue, which includes Flash Gordon. Queen Productions have worked hard keeping the band's work in the fold and rarely do they let that work remain owned by an outside company for very long (see the 1981 Montreal concert as an example). Other bands have either not been so diligent, been mis-managed, no longer exist as an entity with any say as to their released material, or they just don't care.
For the record, Queen's Flash Gordon soundtrack album is NOT the only soundtrack available for that film. A Promo CD was released in June of 2000 with 60 minutes of Howard Blake's orchestral score. Here's a link:
http://www.tracksounds.com/reviews/flashgordon.htm
According to interviews with Blake, he wrote his score to augment the work Queen did and did collaborate with Freddie and Brian.
Also, I believe Queen or film company did plan to release a Highlander soundtrack, then Queen decided to make an album out of the material. Around the Video Hits II era, Brian mentions that he'd like to get together with Michael Kamen and produce a genuine Highlander Soundtrack album, which would probably have given us a few alternate versions of the songs we know and things like "New York, New York". Sadly, Kamen died a short time later, so that's probably not going to happen.
Parlophone (until this year) in the UK and Hollywood Records (since 1991) in the US are under contract to release Queen's entire album catalogue, which includes Flash Gordon. Queen Productions have worked hard keeping the band's work in the fold and rarely do they let that work remain owned by an outside company for very long (see the 1981 Montreal concert as an example). Other bands have either not been so diligent, been mis-managed, no longer exist as an entity with any say as to their released material, or they just don't care.
For the record, Queen's Flash Gordon soundtrack album is NOT the only soundtrack available for that film. A Promo CD was released in June of 2000 with 60 minutes of Howard Blake's orchestral score. Here's a link:
http://www.tracksounds.com/reviews/flashgordon.htm
According to interviews with Blake, he wrote his score to augment the work Queen did and did collaborate with Freddie and Brian.
Also, I believe Queen or film company did plan to release a Highlander soundtrack, then Queen decided to make an album out of the material. Around the Video Hits II era, Brian mentions that he'd like to get together with Michael Kamen and produce a genuine Highlander Soundtrack album, which would probably have given us a few alternate versions of the songs we know and things like "New York, New York". Sadly, Kamen died a short time later, so that's probably not going to happen.
rhyeking
Also, here's a quote from Howard Blake's own website:
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Notes
Director Mike Hodges, producer Dino de Laurentiis
Score written in collaboration with Brian May and Freddie Mercury of 'Queen'.
Composer's note:
'I was brought in in a crisis situation when it was found that the composer nominated by 'Queen' had for some reason been unable to complete 'more than one minute' of a score for the film. I was summoned to a meeting at CTS Wembley by sound recordist John Richards and Brendan Cahill head of music for Universal Studios Hollywood. The RPO had been booked for two weeks and started recording the day before but had nothing else to play. I said it would take at least 4 weeks to write the amount of music required, possibly 90 minutes. After ferocious negotiations with my agent Liz Keys at London Management I began work, but the time gradually whittled down to 10 days and the last 4 days of that I didn't sleep. An added complication was to include various guitar phrases and the song 'Flash' within my large-scale score for 80-piece orchestra. Somehow I finished it and conducted the 3 days of recording sessions, but afterwards I went back to my house in Mortlake and collapsed exhausted. My wife had left the house with the 2 children at the end of my first writing day, bothered by endless phone calls and courier bikes. She returned on the Saturday expecting me to have left for France on the Thursday. In fact I had been asleep for 3 days. She called a doctor who injected me with something to wake me up. He said it was possible I would never have woken up at all, since I was suffering from chronic bronchitis due to total exhaustion! Anyway I recovered and I and everybody else were pleased with the score. Dubbing sessions began and I later discovered that much of my score had been replaced with synthesized music, myself having demonstrated how to handle it. A disappointment.
However, my relations with the members of Queen were always cordial. Brian May came over one day and hummed an idea for an 'overture'. As he did so I jotted it down on some manuscript paper and then played it back on the piano, which really startled him. They all came along to the orchestral recordings and seemed fascinated. I remember Freddie Mercury singing the idea of 'Ride to Arboria' in his high falsetto and I showed him how I could expand it into the orchestral section now on the film, with which he seemed very pleased. Whilst scoring I had cassettes of guitar ideas from Brian, in particular the slow 'falling-chord' sequence. I wrote this out into my score at one point and surrounded it with big orchestral colour. When I came to the recording I had Brian's solo guitar on headphones and conducted the orchestra in synch. around it. Many months later Brian came over and we listened to the finished album.'
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*****
Notes
Director Mike Hodges, producer Dino de Laurentiis
Score written in collaboration with Brian May and Freddie Mercury of 'Queen'.
Composer's note:
'I was brought in in a crisis situation when it was found that the composer nominated by 'Queen' had for some reason been unable to complete 'more than one minute' of a score for the film. I was summoned to a meeting at CTS Wembley by sound recordist John Richards and Brendan Cahill head of music for Universal Studios Hollywood. The RPO had been booked for two weeks and started recording the day before but had nothing else to play. I said it would take at least 4 weeks to write the amount of music required, possibly 90 minutes. After ferocious negotiations with my agent Liz Keys at London Management I began work, but the time gradually whittled down to 10 days and the last 4 days of that I didn't sleep. An added complication was to include various guitar phrases and the song 'Flash' within my large-scale score for 80-piece orchestra. Somehow I finished it and conducted the 3 days of recording sessions, but afterwards I went back to my house in Mortlake and collapsed exhausted. My wife had left the house with the 2 children at the end of my first writing day, bothered by endless phone calls and courier bikes. She returned on the Saturday expecting me to have left for France on the Thursday. In fact I had been asleep for 3 days. She called a doctor who injected me with something to wake me up. He said it was possible I would never have woken up at all, since I was suffering from chronic bronchitis due to total exhaustion! Anyway I recovered and I and everybody else were pleased with the score. Dubbing sessions began and I later discovered that much of my score had been replaced with synthesized music, myself having demonstrated how to handle it. A disappointment.
However, my relations with the members of Queen were always cordial. Brian May came over one day and hummed an idea for an 'overture'. As he did so I jotted it down on some manuscript paper and then played it back on the piano, which really startled him. They all came along to the orchestral recordings and seemed fascinated. I remember Freddie Mercury singing the idea of 'Ride to Arboria' in his high falsetto and I showed him how I could expand it into the orchestral section now on the film, with which he seemed very pleased. Whilst scoring I had cassettes of guitar ideas from Brian, in particular the slow 'falling-chord' sequence. I wrote this out into my score at one point and surrounded it with big orchestral colour. When I came to the recording I had Brian's solo guitar on headphones and conducted the orchestra in synch. around it. Many months later Brian came over and we listened to the finished album.'
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NOTWMEDDLE
Speaking of soundtrack albums from bands, Pink Floyd's soundtrack albums to the Barbet Schroder directed films More and La Vallee (a/k/a the Obscured by Clouds album) are still available on CD. In fact, Obscured by Clouds was the link from Meddle to Dark Side of the Moon and first Pink Floyd album to crack the US Top 50 reaching #46 in the summer of 1972. Back on topic, the soundtrack to Flash Gordon is a great album. I still remember buying the CD at Strawberries Records and Tapes in Brockton, MA in July of 1992.
NOTWMEDDLE
Micrówave wrote:
Microwave is also pretty ignorant about what he thinks Lukather and Brian use to get their sounds.
No, I'm not. Since joining Larry Carlton on tour, Steve no longer uses all those 80s effects. I was fortunate enough to see two of the Larry/Steve shows and saw a super guitarist get back to his roots.
Also, your guys' stupid little VoteNumberOne website that you all participated in took Steve over Brian.
Besides Queen's albums, what has Brian done to garner any attention from the musical community? The Brian May Band was/is a joke. The duet with Meat Loaf sold 62 copies. Maybe you think the Anita stuff is just amazing... I haven't heard it, so I'm pretty ignorant there.
Since 1991, Brian May hasn't done a damn thing except recycle... with one exception. He recorded ONE song with the Parker and must have sent it right back.
But, Mondo, what does this have to do with the original topic? All you want to do is have a Queen - Toto Pissing Contest.
Here's 10 guitarists who have done far more with their guitars that you can piss on (if you'd like).
Les Paul
Jimi Hendrix
Terry Kath
Larry Carlton
John McLaughlin
Steve Lukather
Jimmy Page
Steve Howe
Carlos Santana
Michael Hedges
You can hear all these guitarists "mature" on their recordings. Brian never got better. The solo on Killer Queen and Crazy Little Thing sound like they could have been recorded at the same time. All those guys set new molds for future guitar players. Page was probably the most inept of those 10, but he created simple riffs that became the staple for young rock guitarists. Hedges probably would have done far more, but we were only lucky to get 6 albums before he passed.
Listen to what you think is Brian's tastiest solo. You pick. I think it's Back Chat. Then listen to Kid Charlemagne. You'll either hear it right off or never understand what I'm talking about. Players know.
Carlos Santana sounds like I'm in Tijuana eating tacos sitting next to Eddie Guerrero and Speedy Gonzales. Terry Kath and Jimi Hendrix both destroyed their skills with all the drugs they comsumed. Jimmy Page lost his touch thanks to heroin. John McLaughlin, BORING! Steve Howe, self indulgng
I think David Gilmour got better as he got older. He may not have had fast fingers but could do more with the Stratocaster
My list of excellent guitarists:
David Gilmour (his tone and sound developed each time a Pink Floyd and/or solo album came out and not just restricted to Fender Stratocasters but also Telecasters (Dogs, No Way, Run Like Hell and many early Floyd recordings up to Ummagumma), Gibson Les Pauls (Another Brick, Poles Apart, Great Day For Freedom, This Heaven, A Pocketful of Stones), Gretsch Duo-Jet, Steinberger (on Momentary Lapse), steel guitars and so on)
Daryl Stuermer (his playing got better on each Genesis and/or Phil Collins tour and on the last Genesis tour, his solos on "Firth of Fifth" and "Los Endos" were better than the way he played them live in the 1980s)
Alex Lifeson
Martin Barre (he experimented with different guitars and tones, was a Gibson Les Paul/SG user then went to Hamer and now Paul Reed Smith)
Don Felder
Tony Iommi
Mike Rutherford (he has done some great riffs with oddball tunings on the guitar)
Steve Hackett
Also your choices of drummer stink! Simon Phillips is a wunderkind. Jeff Porcaro was not bad. Steve Gadd, overrated. I still prefer Barriemore Barlow and/or Mark Craney to some of your picks. You probably like that Manu Katche wannabe punk Carter Beauford.
Microwave is also pretty ignorant about what he thinks Lukather and Brian use to get their sounds.
No, I'm not. Since joining Larry Carlton on tour, Steve no longer uses all those 80s effects. I was fortunate enough to see two of the Larry/Steve shows and saw a super guitarist get back to his roots.
Also, your guys' stupid little VoteNumberOne website that you all participated in took Steve over Brian.
Besides Queen's albums, what has Brian done to garner any attention from the musical community? The Brian May Band was/is a joke. The duet with Meat Loaf sold 62 copies. Maybe you think the Anita stuff is just amazing... I haven't heard it, so I'm pretty ignorant there.
Since 1991, Brian May hasn't done a damn thing except recycle... with one exception. He recorded ONE song with the Parker and must have sent it right back.
But, Mondo, what does this have to do with the original topic? All you want to do is have a Queen - Toto Pissing Contest.
Here's 10 guitarists who have done far more with their guitars that you can piss on (if you'd like).
Les Paul
Jimi Hendrix
Terry Kath
Larry Carlton
John McLaughlin
Steve Lukather
Jimmy Page
Steve Howe
Carlos Santana
Michael Hedges
You can hear all these guitarists "mature" on their recordings. Brian never got better. The solo on Killer Queen and Crazy Little Thing sound like they could have been recorded at the same time. All those guys set new molds for future guitar players. Page was probably the most inept of those 10, but he created simple riffs that became the staple for young rock guitarists. Hedges probably would have done far more, but we were only lucky to get 6 albums before he passed.
Listen to what you think is Brian's tastiest solo. You pick. I think it's Back Chat. Then listen to Kid Charlemagne. You'll either hear it right off or never understand what I'm talking about. Players know.
Carlos Santana sounds like I'm in Tijuana eating tacos sitting next to Eddie Guerrero and Speedy Gonzales. Terry Kath and Jimi Hendrix both destroyed their skills with all the drugs they comsumed. Jimmy Page lost his touch thanks to heroin. John McLaughlin, BORING! Steve Howe, self indulgng
I think David Gilmour got better as he got older. He may not have had fast fingers but could do more with the Stratocaster
My list of excellent guitarists:
David Gilmour (his tone and sound developed each time a Pink Floyd and/or solo album came out and not just restricted to Fender Stratocasters but also Telecasters (Dogs, No Way, Run Like Hell and many early Floyd recordings up to Ummagumma), Gibson Les Pauls (Another Brick, Poles Apart, Great Day For Freedom, This Heaven, A Pocketful of Stones), Gretsch Duo-Jet, Steinberger (on Momentary Lapse), steel guitars and so on)
Daryl Stuermer (his playing got better on each Genesis and/or Phil Collins tour and on the last Genesis tour, his solos on "Firth of Fifth" and "Los Endos" were better than the way he played them live in the 1980s)
Alex Lifeson
Martin Barre (he experimented with different guitars and tones, was a Gibson Les Paul/SG user then went to Hamer and now Paul Reed Smith)
Don Felder
Tony Iommi
Mike Rutherford (he has done some great riffs with oddball tunings on the guitar)
Steve Hackett
Also your choices of drummer stink! Simon Phillips is a wunderkind. Jeff Porcaro was not bad. Steve Gadd, overrated. I still prefer Barriemore Barlow and/or Mark Craney to some of your picks. You probably like that Manu Katche wannabe punk Carter Beauford.
NOTWMEDDLE
Micrówave wrote: Mando, if it were still available, I'd buy you a Dune soundtrack. It's a much better soundtrack.
I'll see if Dorothy or the Tin Man can fire up that petition.
Michael Jackson is dead and I'm GLAD! That robotic fool had a bad life because of an abusive money hungry father wo saw nothing but dollar signs. He took his own life. He committed suicide and I have no compassion nor remorse for him. Steve Lukather pales in comparison to David Gilmour.
Britney Spears won a F*CKING GRAMMY, Grammies are useless. Pink Floyd didn't win any until 1995 for "Marooned" an instrumental. You probably look like that FAT NERD FATHER on that lame*ss show Family Guy. You run your mouth "you think that was bad, remember the time Wacko Jacko did this". Steely Dan BORING!
I'll see if Dorothy or the Tin Man can fire up that petition.
Michael Jackson is dead and I'm GLAD! That robotic fool had a bad life because of an abusive money hungry father wo saw nothing but dollar signs. He took his own life. He committed suicide and I have no compassion nor remorse for him. Steve Lukather pales in comparison to David Gilmour.
Britney Spears won a F*CKING GRAMMY, Grammies are useless. Pink Floyd didn't win any until 1995 for "Marooned" an instrumental. You probably look like that FAT NERD FATHER on that lame*ss show Family Guy. You run your mouth "you think that was bad, remember the time Wacko Jacko did this". Steely Dan BORING!
NOTWMEDDLE
Micrówave wrote: "David Paich is a hit machine." So what exactly would Queen be compared to the almighty DP?
DAVID PAICH HAD MORE #1 HITS
One of these bands were innovators and one wasn't.
HMM, I THINK THEY BOTH ARE
One of these bands had a guitarist that you could identify with your ears instantly.
STEVE LUKATHER? YES I KNOW. I KNEW IT WAS HE WHEN I FIRST HEARD THE TUBES' SHE'S A BEAUTY... AND HE WASN'T EVEN PART OF THE BAND!!!
BRIAN'S GOT A VERY DISTINCT TONE AS WELL. BUT BRIAN USES HARMONIZERS AND DELAYS TO GET THAT SOUND. STEVE PLUGS INTO HIS AMP AND PLAYS.
One of these bands had a lead vocalist that you could identify with your ears instantly.
TOTO HAD THREE. BOBBY KIMBALL IS GREATNESS. DAVID PAICH WAS THE BARITONE, AS HEARD IN THE SONG AFRICA. JOSEPH WILLIAMS WAS THE HIGHEST PITCH OF ALL THREE. QUEEN ONLY HAD ONE LEAD VOCALIST. ANYONE WHO CALLS ROGER OR BRIAN A LEAD VOCALIST IS MERELY PITYING THEM. THEY CAN'T CARRY A BAND, LET ALONE A FULL ALBUM.
One of these bands had songs and entire albums that stood out from everyone else.
TOTO IV WAS PRETTY DARN GOOD. AFRICA, ROSANNA, I WON'T HOLD YOU BACK WERE ALL TOP TEN SINGLES. WHAT ALBUM DID QUEEN RELEASE THAT HAD THREE TOP TEN SINGLES ON IT?
TOTO'S FIRST ALBUM HAD TWO MAJOR HITS, GEORGY PORGY AND HOLD THE LINE. I DON'T BELIEVE QUEEN CRACKED THE TOP SINGLES LIST WITH THEIR FIRST (OR SECOND) ALBUM.
"I'll leave it to you to figure it out. "
I DO HAVE A LOT MORE QUEEN CDs THAN TOTO. YES, I LIKE QUEEN MORE, BUT MANY BANDS HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS TO OFFER.
I DOUBT THAT FLASH GORDON IS STILL IN PRINT BECAUSE "QUEEN IS THE BEST BAND IN THE WHOLE WORLD".
Flash Gordon went Gold here in the US.
Pink Floyd had quite a few singers in the band. David Gilmour predominantly after Syd Barrett sadly went apesh*t and has the best vocal range of all members. Rick Wright had the quiet, English, soothing voice (God rest his soul) and sang a few tunes per album up to Dark Side then resurrected on The Division Bell. Then of course Roger Waters who could sing quiet songs with ease (one lead vocal or two per album starting with Saucerful up to Wish You Were Here). Then after he quit smoking in 1975, he went for the whole hog (pardon the pun) and started to sing higher than his normal range starting with Animals then split The Wall vocal duties 50/50 with Gilmour and peaked on The Final Cut. Then after Roger left Floyd, years of a combo of screaming (despite the fact he gave up smoking in '75) and thinking he was Robert Plant on Pros and Cons eventually led to his demise in singing and having to mime high sections of songs now in concert sadly.
Jeff Porcaro I give edge to in drums over Nick Mason (Jeff has worked with everyone). In fact, Jeff played drums on "Mother" as Nick couldn't play the drum beat proper. Jeff's dad Joe did the snare on "Bring the Boys Back Home".
Played on Gilmour's About Face and Roger's Amused to Death and sessions for Don Henley, Chicago and so on.
Steve Lukather and David Gilmour, tough call. Lukather has done sessions for everyone too. He did the solo on "I Love L.A." from Randy Newman and also the famed solo on Chicago's "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" and played on Chicago 17. Gilmour has done guest spots on many albums for many artists as well (everyone from Paul McCartney to Elton John to Warren Zevon to Peter Cetera, I can go on). Steve did own Syd Barrett I have to admit.
Paich and Rick Wright are both similar in keyboard textures.
Toto's bass players owned Roger Waters though Roger did have his moments.
DAVID PAICH HAD MORE #1 HITS
One of these bands were innovators and one wasn't.
HMM, I THINK THEY BOTH ARE
One of these bands had a guitarist that you could identify with your ears instantly.
STEVE LUKATHER? YES I KNOW. I KNEW IT WAS HE WHEN I FIRST HEARD THE TUBES' SHE'S A BEAUTY... AND HE WASN'T EVEN PART OF THE BAND!!!
BRIAN'S GOT A VERY DISTINCT TONE AS WELL. BUT BRIAN USES HARMONIZERS AND DELAYS TO GET THAT SOUND. STEVE PLUGS INTO HIS AMP AND PLAYS.
One of these bands had a lead vocalist that you could identify with your ears instantly.
TOTO HAD THREE. BOBBY KIMBALL IS GREATNESS. DAVID PAICH WAS THE BARITONE, AS HEARD IN THE SONG AFRICA. JOSEPH WILLIAMS WAS THE HIGHEST PITCH OF ALL THREE. QUEEN ONLY HAD ONE LEAD VOCALIST. ANYONE WHO CALLS ROGER OR BRIAN A LEAD VOCALIST IS MERELY PITYING THEM. THEY CAN'T CARRY A BAND, LET ALONE A FULL ALBUM.
One of these bands had songs and entire albums that stood out from everyone else.
TOTO IV WAS PRETTY DARN GOOD. AFRICA, ROSANNA, I WON'T HOLD YOU BACK WERE ALL TOP TEN SINGLES. WHAT ALBUM DID QUEEN RELEASE THAT HAD THREE TOP TEN SINGLES ON IT?
TOTO'S FIRST ALBUM HAD TWO MAJOR HITS, GEORGY PORGY AND HOLD THE LINE. I DON'T BELIEVE QUEEN CRACKED THE TOP SINGLES LIST WITH THEIR FIRST (OR SECOND) ALBUM.
"I'll leave it to you to figure it out. "
I DO HAVE A LOT MORE QUEEN CDs THAN TOTO. YES, I LIKE QUEEN MORE, BUT MANY BANDS HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS TO OFFER.
I DOUBT THAT FLASH GORDON IS STILL IN PRINT BECAUSE "QUEEN IS THE BEST BAND IN THE WHOLE WORLD".
Flash Gordon went Gold here in the US.
Pink Floyd had quite a few singers in the band. David Gilmour predominantly after Syd Barrett sadly went apesh*t and has the best vocal range of all members. Rick Wright had the quiet, English, soothing voice (God rest his soul) and sang a few tunes per album up to Dark Side then resurrected on The Division Bell. Then of course Roger Waters who could sing quiet songs with ease (one lead vocal or two per album starting with Saucerful up to Wish You Were Here). Then after he quit smoking in 1975, he went for the whole hog (pardon the pun) and started to sing higher than his normal range starting with Animals then split The Wall vocal duties 50/50 with Gilmour and peaked on The Final Cut. Then after Roger left Floyd, years of a combo of screaming (despite the fact he gave up smoking in '75) and thinking he was Robert Plant on Pros and Cons eventually led to his demise in singing and having to mime high sections of songs now in concert sadly.
Jeff Porcaro I give edge to in drums over Nick Mason (Jeff has worked with everyone). In fact, Jeff played drums on "Mother" as Nick couldn't play the drum beat proper. Jeff's dad Joe did the snare on "Bring the Boys Back Home".
Played on Gilmour's About Face and Roger's Amused to Death and sessions for Don Henley, Chicago and so on.
Steve Lukather and David Gilmour, tough call. Lukather has done sessions for everyone too. He did the solo on "I Love L.A." from Randy Newman and also the famed solo on Chicago's "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" and played on Chicago 17. Gilmour has done guest spots on many albums for many artists as well (everyone from Paul McCartney to Elton John to Warren Zevon to Peter Cetera, I can go on). Steve did own Syd Barrett I have to admit.
Paich and Rick Wright are both similar in keyboard textures.
Toto's bass players owned Roger Waters though Roger did have his moments.
andreas_mercury
too band of a fucking idiot
rhyeking
Best Guitarists...?
No list is complete without Mike Oldfield somewhere near the top. He is to guitar playing what Neil Peart is to drumming!
No list is complete without Mike Oldfield somewhere near the top. He is to guitar playing what Neil Peart is to drumming!
Holly2003
Micrówave wrote:
Microwave is also pretty ignorant about what he thinks Lukather and Brian use to get their sounds.
No, I'm not. Since joining Larry Carlton on tour, Steve no longer uses all those 80s effects. I was fortunate enough to see two of the Larry/Steve shows and saw a super guitarist get back to his roots.
Also, your guys' stupid little VoteNumberOne website that you all participated in took Steve over Brian.
Besides Queen's albums, what has Brian done to garner any attention from the musical community? The Brian May Band was/is a joke. The duet with Meat Loaf sold 62 copies. Maybe you think the Anita stuff is just amazing... I haven't heard it, so I'm pretty ignorant there.
Since 1991, Brian May hasn't done a damn thing except recycle... with one exception. He recorded ONE song with the Parker and must have sent it right back.
But, Mondo, what does this have to do with the original topic? All you want to do is have a Queen - Toto Pissing Contest.
Here's 10 guitarists who have done far more with their guitars that you can piss on (if you'd like).
Les Paul
Jimi Hendrix
Terry Kath
Larry Carlton
John McLaughlin
Steve Lukather
Jimmy Page
Steve Howe
Carlos Santana
Michael Hedges
You can hear all these guitarists "mature" on their recordings. Brian never got better. The solo on Killer Queen and Crazy Little Thing sound like they could have been recorded at the same time. All those guys set new molds for future guitar players. Page was probably the most inept of those 10, but he created simple riffs that became the staple for young rock guitarists. Hedges probably would have done far more, but we were only lucky to get 6 albums before he passed.
Listen to what you think is Brian's tastiest solo. You pick. I think it's Back Chat. Then listen to Kid Charlemagne. You'll either hear it right off or never understand what I'm talking about. Players know.
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Two words: Good Company. If Brian did nothing else, this would still be regarded as a masterpiece.
Microwave is also pretty ignorant about what he thinks Lukather and Brian use to get their sounds.
No, I'm not. Since joining Larry Carlton on tour, Steve no longer uses all those 80s effects. I was fortunate enough to see two of the Larry/Steve shows and saw a super guitarist get back to his roots.
Also, your guys' stupid little VoteNumberOne website that you all participated in took Steve over Brian.
Besides Queen's albums, what has Brian done to garner any attention from the musical community? The Brian May Band was/is a joke. The duet with Meat Loaf sold 62 copies. Maybe you think the Anita stuff is just amazing... I haven't heard it, so I'm pretty ignorant there.
Since 1991, Brian May hasn't done a damn thing except recycle... with one exception. He recorded ONE song with the Parker and must have sent it right back.
But, Mondo, what does this have to do with the original topic? All you want to do is have a Queen - Toto Pissing Contest.
Here's 10 guitarists who have done far more with their guitars that you can piss on (if you'd like).
Les Paul
Jimi Hendrix
Terry Kath
Larry Carlton
John McLaughlin
Steve Lukather
Jimmy Page
Steve Howe
Carlos Santana
Michael Hedges
You can hear all these guitarists "mature" on their recordings. Brian never got better. The solo on Killer Queen and Crazy Little Thing sound like they could have been recorded at the same time. All those guys set new molds for future guitar players. Page was probably the most inept of those 10, but he created simple riffs that became the staple for young rock guitarists. Hedges probably would have done far more, but we were only lucky to get 6 albums before he passed.
Listen to what you think is Brian's tastiest solo. You pick. I think it's Back Chat. Then listen to Kid Charlemagne. You'll either hear it right off or never understand what I'm talking about. Players know.
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Two words: Good Company. If Brian did nothing else, this would still be regarded as a masterpiece.
Micrówave
A masterpiece?
Well, doesn't a song have to be pretty well known to be a "masterpiece"? Probably few outside the Queen Fan base know about this song. If they want to hear a guitarist make non-traditional sound using a guitar, they can plug in Robert Fripp and say 21st Century Schizoid Man is a masterpiece or the aforementioned Terry Kath, Free Form Guitar.
The actual sounds Brian plays to make sound like guitar parts are fairly boring. There he goes using his traditional three finger chord leads. Wow. Groundbreaking.
And if it were so groundbreaking, why not have some Guitar Tuba on Bohemian Rhapsody or Radio Ga Ga? Because one song with all that crap is enough. If I want a Flugelhorn or a Trombone, I sure as hell don't want Brian May doing it.
Freddie also sounded great singing through a pair of headphones in a trash can, but Seasize Rendezvous is just a song. A nice one, but just a song.
Well, doesn't a song have to be pretty well known to be a "masterpiece"? Probably few outside the Queen Fan base know about this song. If they want to hear a guitarist make non-traditional sound using a guitar, they can plug in Robert Fripp and say 21st Century Schizoid Man is a masterpiece or the aforementioned Terry Kath, Free Form Guitar.
The actual sounds Brian plays to make sound like guitar parts are fairly boring. There he goes using his traditional three finger chord leads. Wow. Groundbreaking.
And if it were so groundbreaking, why not have some Guitar Tuba on Bohemian Rhapsody or Radio Ga Ga? Because one song with all that crap is enough. If I want a Flugelhorn or a Trombone, I sure as hell don't want Brian May doing it.
Freddie also sounded great singing through a pair of headphones in a trash can, but Seasize Rendezvous is just a song. A nice one, but just a song.
Holly2003
Micrówave wrote: A masterpiece?
Well, doesn't a song have to be pretty well known to be a "masterpiece"? Probably few outside the Queen Fan base know about this song. If they want to hear a guitarist make non-traditional sound using a guitar, they can plug in Robert Fripp and say 21st Century Schizoid Man is a masterpiece or the aforementioned Terry Kath, Free Form Guitar.
The actual sounds Brian plays to make sound like guitar parts are fairly boring. There he goes using his traditional three finger chord leads. Wow. Groundbreaking.
And if it were so groundbreaking, why not have some Guitar Tuba on Bohemian Rhapsody or Radio Ga Ga? Because one song with all that crap is enough. If I want a Flugelhorn or a Trombone, I sure as hell don't want Brian May doing it.
Freddie also sounded great singing through a pair of headphones in a trash can, but Seasize Rendezvous is just a song. A nice one, but just a song. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Going fishing again? I ain't biting! lol!
Well, doesn't a song have to be pretty well known to be a "masterpiece"? Probably few outside the Queen Fan base know about this song. If they want to hear a guitarist make non-traditional sound using a guitar, they can plug in Robert Fripp and say 21st Century Schizoid Man is a masterpiece or the aforementioned Terry Kath, Free Form Guitar.
The actual sounds Brian plays to make sound like guitar parts are fairly boring. There he goes using his traditional three finger chord leads. Wow. Groundbreaking.
And if it were so groundbreaking, why not have some Guitar Tuba on Bohemian Rhapsody or Radio Ga Ga? Because one song with all that crap is enough. If I want a Flugelhorn or a Trombone, I sure as hell don't want Brian May doing it.
Freddie also sounded great singing through a pair of headphones in a trash can, but Seasize Rendezvous is just a song. A nice one, but just a song. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Going fishing again? I ain't biting! lol!
Micrówave
No, actually I wasn't. I just can't believe you think that song is one of the greatest ever, as if Brian reinvented the wheel.
Probably best we just leave that alone.
Probably best we just leave that alone.
Holly2003
Micrówave wrote: No, actually I wasn't. I just can't believe you think that song is one of the greatest ever, as if Brian reinvented the wheel.
Probably best we just leave that alone. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In short, it's great because of the way it's put together, as you know, with the guitar mimicing a number of instruments to form a jazz orchestra. I can't think of another song that does this to this extent. I don't know if anyone had even tried it before Brian did it.
Probably best we just leave that alone. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In short, it's great because of the way it's put together, as you know, with the guitar mimicing a number of instruments to form a jazz orchestra. I can't think of another song that does this to this extent. I don't know if anyone had even tried it before Brian did it.