i bet he wasn't all that pleased with 3 members his government advising voters to tactically vote for the Lib Dems to keep the tories out of Number 10.something i was already going to do anyway btw :-p
JoxerTheDeityPirate · Member since
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: I don't blame Gordon Brown for calling that woman bigotted. I think she was a bit.
Cameron is going to win :( I can't stand him. reply:
still looks as if its going to be a 'hung parliament' though which will mean that Cameron will not get his own way even if the tories are the biggest party. i'm quite looking forward to the Lib Dems having a vital say in what gets passed in the next government :-D
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: I don't blame Gordon Brown for calling that woman bigotted. I think she was a bit.
Cameron is going to win :( I can't stand him. reply:
still looks as if its going to be a 'hung parliament' though which will mean that Cameron will not get his own way even if the tories are the biggest party. i'm quite looking forward to the Lib Dems having a vital say in what gets passed in the next government :-D
I completely agree! I think that tactical voting (i.e. voting Lib Dem in a marginal constituency where the race is between Tory and Lib Dem when you'd rather vote Labour, but know they don't stand a chance. Or the other way around, of course) is a great idea, and will give the United Kingdom the most democratic and balanced goverment she has had in ages.
Mr Mercury · Member since
Joxer, I just had to post that. It was too good an oppo to miss :)
Mr Mercury · Member since
Heres another lot who, thankfully, just cant get their act together
And it looks like its farewell Gordy boy............ Nick Clegg appears to be backing Smarmeron....
JoxerTheDeityPirate · Member since
it's not running smoothly is it? :-p for all our Colonials trying to follow whats happening here in the UK i shall try my best to explain:
the Tories won but not by enough so by the constitution the Labour Party are still in charge BUT.. because it is a Hung Parliament,the Labour Party don't have enough seats to run the country so need the Lib Dems are needed by them to form a government,however... the Lib Dems dont want to talk to Golden Brown and want the Tories to govern in some form,this is gonna rumble on for a while yet! HOWEVER... as i write this it's just been announced that David Cameron is going to make a statement to the world at 2.30pm UK time so lets wait and see. on a seperate note,i managed to end up on local radio asking about all this and not getting a definative answer and we are STILL waiting for the St Ives result [where i live] due to the fact we are waiting for the votes from the Scilly Isles to come over on the boat :-p right,now thats sorted i am going to bed :-p
And it looks like its farewell Gordy boy............ Nick Clegg appears to be backing Smarmeron.... Nope. The Tories refuse any change in the electoral process, and Lib Dem have stated that this is a point they will not compromize on. Moreover, Labour is willing to concede much more to Lib Dem than the Tories do. They'd be fools if they'd opt for Cameron - it would decimate them next time there are elections, because they would be unable to distinguish themselves in conservative government. Moreover, the Tories are anti-Europe while Lib Dem is pro-Europe (and pro-Euro).
JoxerTheDeityPirate · Member since
^ and this is where it starts getting tricky as even with a pact with the Lib Dems the Labour Party still would'nt have enough seats for an overall majority to run the country :-p [326 seats needed]
YourValentine · Member since
I have a question for the English people (voters) here: Don't you find the majority voting system terribly unfair? The Labour party won 29 % of the votes and gets 250+ seats while the Liberals got 23% and only 54 + seats!! Shouldn't each vote count the same in a democracy? And what do you think about the many voters who were denied their right to vote last night because the queues at the polling stations were too long or the ballot papers went out? Unbelievable for an old democracy like the UK...
JoxerTheDeityPirate · Member since
^on the subject of people being locked out at 10pm and thus not being able to vote: i have no sympathy with them,the polling booths were open for 15 HOURS and so they had plenty of time to cast a vote instead of leaving it to the last minute.
on the subject of the votes and seats won: this is the problem that now faces us,as you rightly point out the Lib Dems get nearly 7M votes and yet only get 55 seats [as i write].and Labour get 255 seats and 8M votes.one of the deals being proposed now is the subject of proportional representation.the tories are totally against this but Labour are willing to offer the Lib Dems a deal thus keeping Gordon Brown in power. on a side note it looks as if my vote is going to have a big impact on how the coalitions are formed as if we become Tory here in the St Ives area of Cornwall then it pushes their majority up but if the Lib Dems keep the seat then Labour have the upper hand.our votes are still being counted as i type. either way its all very fascinating :-D
dont be surprised if we do all of this again within the next 6 months and have another general election :-p
Mr Mercury · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:[/QUOTENAME] ^on the subject of people being locked out at 10pm and thus not being able to vote: i have no sympathy with them,the polling booths were open for 15 HOURS and so they had plenty of time to cast a vote instead of leaving it to the last minute. [/QUOTE]
Also, they could have voted by post had they bothered to register as soon as the election was announced. So like you Joxer, I have no sympathy for them.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME]on the subject of the votes and seats won: this is the problem that now faces us,as you rightly point out the Lib Dems get nearly 7M votes and yet only get 55 seats [as i write].and Labour get 255 seats and 8M votes.one of the deals being proposed now is the subject of proportional representation.the tories are totally against this but Labour are willing to offer the Lib Dems a deal thus keeping Gordon Brown in power. on a side note it looks as if my vote is going to have a big impact on how the coalitions are formed as if we become Tory here in the St Ives area of Cornwall then it pushes their majority up but if the Lib Dems keep the seat then Labour have the upper hand.our votes are still being counted as i type. either way its all very fascinating :-D dont be surprised if we do all of this again within the next 6 months and have another general election :-p [/QUOTE]
As I type this, The Tories have 302 seats. Labour have 257 seats, Lib Dems have 56 seats and the others have 28. which means that more people have voted against the Tories!!! Laughable imo.....
