crikey,there's hardly anyone on this site these days as it is without the last few dodgy pirates [not me,good pirate like Mr Depp] being switched off at the mains :-p
People should buy the physical albums and singles, anyways.
The Real Wizard · Member since
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[b]Blue Roses Unlimited wrote: [/b]
Good.
People should buy the physical albums and singles, anyways.
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Why, to support the bean-counters at record labels?
The artists see very little of that money, you know.
Even if they did, how is downloading an album any different from borrowing a book from the library?
john bodega · Member since
I love a good bit of illegal downloading. The thing is, when money comes my way, I also love buying physical product. Not because of morality, but practicality - hard drives are unreliable, burnt media are unreliable. If I take care of pressed CDs or DVDs, they'll last longer. I'm old fashioned for it, but I am a fan of buying things.
The Real Wizard · Member since
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[b]Zebonka12 wrote: [/b]
burnt media are unreliable[/QUOTE]
Not if they're made in Japan.. :-)
Saint Jiub · Member since
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]Blue Roses Unlimited wrote: [/b]
Good.
People should buy the physical albums and singles, anyways.
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Why, to support the bean-counters at record labels?
The artists see very little of that money, you know.
Even if they did, how is downloading an album any different from borrowing a book from the library?[/QUOTE]
The book is returned to the library. The downloaded music is not returned and usually not deleted.
It is a pity that attitudes have deteiorated to a third world level, and intellectual property rights are no longer respected.
Mr Mercury · Member since
Now now Mooghead - that is still theft....
:)
The Real Wizard · Member since
Panchgani wrote:
Sir GH wrote:
Even if they did, how is downloading an album any different from borrowing a book from the library? The book is returned to the library. The downloaded music is not returned and usually not deleted.
It is a pity that attitudes have deteiorated to a third world level, and intellectual property rights are no longer respected. The average artist with a major label deal makes about $2 from each record sale. The store makes a few bucks, and the label pockets the rest. This has nothing to do with intellectual property. People have recorded songs off the radio to cassettes for years. This is just the next step.
Those who seek new music have never had a greater variety of music to select from. Downloading music is the best way for new artists to gain popularity. Then you go to the concert and buy the merchandise. The artist makes much more money that way. Without downloading, plenty of artists would never be heard.
It's time to move into the 21st century. If record labels are losing money, it's their own fault because of their outdated business plans. A substantial portion of the population does not want to pay $20 for a CD. With their last album, Radiohead has set the standard for how to release music - pay what you think the music is worth. It still made millions.
The Real Wizard · Member since
(double post)
The forum is really acting up these days..
pittrek · Member since
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Micrówave · Member since
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: crikey,there's hardly anyone on this site these days as it is without the last few dodgy pirates [not me,good pirate like Mr Depp] being switched off at the mains :-p
Yeah, I've been having a tough time getting around this Lifetime Internet Ban. But I stole a bunch of laptops from an underprivlidged school for handicapped children, and I'm back. Anybody want some free songs?
David Jones · Member since
Sir GH wrote:
Even if they did, how is downloading an album any different from borrowing a book from the library? The book is returned to the library. The downloaded music is not returned and usually not deleted.
It is a pity that attitudes have deteiorated to a third world level, and intellectual property rights are no longer respected. The average artist with a major label deal makes about $2 from each record sale. The store makes a few bucks, and the label pockets the rest. This has nothing to do with intellectual property. People have recorded songs off the radio to cassettes for years. This is just the next step.
Those who seek new music have never had a greater variety of music to select from. Downloading music is the best way for new artists to gain popularity. Then you go to the concert and buy the merchandise. The artist makes much more money that way. Without downloading, plenty of artists would never be heard.
It's time to move into the 21st century. If record labels are losing money, it's their own fault because of their outdated business plans. A substantial portion of the population does not want to pay $20 for a CD. With their last album, Radiohead has set the standard for how to release music - pay what you think the music is worth. It still made millions.
Here here!
I think some people are being driven to illegal downloading because of the record labels - releasing an album, then re-releasing at the end of the tour with bonus tracks/DVDs, bands re-releasing old albums with maybe one or two new songs/demos, better sounding versions being released overseas etc. It's so easy for the record labels to blame their poor results on illegal downloads and its not all of the problem.
People are saying Spotify is the way forward, but what's to stop you recording off Spotify straight onto your hard drive?
Raf · Member since
I wouldn't buy most (if not ALL) albums I've downloaded.
I usually don't have lots of spare money, and when I do, I have other priorities - so, they definitely didn't waste the chance of earning my money as I downloaded their albums.
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I've never bought any Franz Ferdinand album in my life. I got to know them when a friend sent me a few songs, and then I downloaded their albums for free. After a while, their third album came out, I downloaded it and a folder full of b-sides and other "rare" tracks. I didn't pay anything at all for their music. Then they came to Brazil and I paid for a ticket probably more than they would've made if I had bought their 3 albums.
YourValentine · Member since
It's amazing how the music industry keeps telling us how they lose so much money to downloading when in fact they sell more than ever before:
It's obvious that people download music illegally because it's easy to do and the record companies protect their interests by offering legal downloads - which is the best way to do imo. For years they persecuted services like Napster or emule but over the time they learnt that it's better to provide an alternative to the illegal downloads. Like any other business it's the job of the industry to come up with up-to-date sales methods and not to run to the legislation and ask for censorship and special laws to protect their interests. As a customer and a citizen I am appalled by such laws which serve to establish censorship tools rather than to stop the illegal distribution of copyrighted material. The worst thing about the above quoted article is that MPs complain they had no time to actually debate the law in Parliament. They should not have let the law pass - it's only the MPs themselves who can protect their independence and not become servants to the industry against their own people.
