Sebastian
Maybe 'you didn't have to drive him around everywhere, like Freddie' for most of his career, but during one year he did have to use the tube.
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tcc
Sebastian wrote: Maybe 'you didn't have to drive him around everywhere, like Freddie' for most of his career, but during one year he did have to use the tube.
Was it due to a drink driving offence ?
Was it due to a drink driving offence ?
Micrówave
Ah, rare John Deacon factoids. Do tell!!!
And yes, Skip, you are the Taurus Pedal man. I encourage all Queenzoners to direct those questions to you. I do, however, have the pedals for my Hammond organ. So if you have any questions about adding low end when you play a B-3, I'd be able to help you out. It's really quite easy, but you have to have your drawbars set correctly or your harmonics will get muddy.
I do know that Taurus Pedals had something built it so if you accidentally hit two keys at the same time only one would sound (the lower one). The Hammonds don't have that... better get it right or don't play it!!!
Steve Hackett was better at 'em than Geddy Lee.
And yes, Skip, you are the Taurus Pedal man. I encourage all Queenzoners to direct those questions to you. I do, however, have the pedals for my Hammond organ. So if you have any questions about adding low end when you play a B-3, I'd be able to help you out. It's really quite easy, but you have to have your drawbars set correctly or your harmonics will get muddy.
I do know that Taurus Pedals had something built it so if you accidentally hit two keys at the same time only one would sound (the lower one). The Hammonds don't have that... better get it right or don't play it!!!
Steve Hackett was better at 'em than Geddy Lee.
Bo Rhap
I agree that John is one of the most under-rated bass players and songwriters of all time.
I sometimes wonder if John considered himself a soul bass player,rather than a rock bass player.He was talented enough to do both ofcourse.
Lets not forget,he wasnt a bad guitarist as witness Staying Power in the Milton Keyens Bowl gig.
I sometimes wonder if John considered himself a soul bass player,rather than a rock bass player.He was talented enough to do both ofcourse.
Lets not forget,he wasnt a bad guitarist as witness Staying Power in the Milton Keyens Bowl gig.
FriedChicken
John's basslines are so recognisable.
2 weeks ago I was walking towards a record store and the door was open. I couldn't hear the music they were playing but I could hear the bassline. And I remember thinking "wow, this sounds so Deaky!" And when I entered the shop they were playing These are the Days.
If you would listen to the basslines of songs like Sweet Lady or YOu're my Best Friend solo one could wonder how this basspart would fit in a song. But when all the instruments are played it makes perfectly sense.
John was an outstanding player, and an outstanding writer. I wonder if he knew...
2 weeks ago I was walking towards a record store and the door was open. I couldn't hear the music they were playing but I could hear the bassline. And I remember thinking "wow, this sounds so Deaky!" And when I entered the shop they were playing These are the Days.
If you would listen to the basslines of songs like Sweet Lady or YOu're my Best Friend solo one could wonder how this basspart would fit in a song. But when all the instruments are played it makes perfectly sense.
John was an outstanding player, and an outstanding writer. I wonder if he knew...
Soundfreak
Without doubt he was the perfect bass-player for Queen. But what I always found interesting is, how isolated he always looked on stage. I never saw him talking to anybody. Or the other three talking to him.
It was a real surprise when he even said some words on the Freddie memorial concert....
Whatever their relation was like...he was perfect for their chemistry.
It was a real surprise when he even said some words on the Freddie memorial concert....
Whatever their relation was like...he was perfect for their chemistry.
mike hunt
I'm going on the othe end on this discussion.....a genius bass player is known as such even for the casual fan and often gets mentioned by muscians for generations to come. Has john been called a genius outside of Queenzone?....Freddie yes, brian, yes.... Never heard anyone call john even a brilliant player. Though i have heard players like John Entwistle, Chris Squier call him very good. He's no genius people!....I am a fan though....solid bass player and love his songs. I also don't think john doesn't get his props because of being in the same band as freddie, that's bullshit!....Entwistle gets his props and he was in the same band as Keith Moon, Geddy Lee gets his props and he's in the same band as neil peart. Ect, Ect. As great as he was Freddie wasn't a god.....there was room for other members to shine, and that's why brian's Influence gets bigger over time, and even roger gets mentioned more often these days as a drummer and overall talent. Havn't heard anything about john though, Except that he was good.....But no genius.
JacquesDaniels
skip wrote: Micrówave wrote: You can find a lot of drummers in Roger's class or even better.
You can find a lot of guitarists in Brian's class or slightly better.
You can even find vocalists with the range of Freddie Mercury (but you have to look real hard)
You can compare John Deacon to Geddy Lee and make me laugh pretty hard. You're still going to have a tough time finding someone as solid and groovy as John. He didn't need Taurus pedals either.
Anybody ever try to learn the bass lines to Tom Sawyer? I just did while writing this thread. Done.
It's evident you know nothing about Taurus pedals.
Going off-topic, but... Had to LOL @ reference to Tom Sawyer. You just had to pick one of their easiest songs to prove what? Rush has always been a progrock band, and most of the time Geddy and Alex are the ones usually doing the composing of the songs. There's a whole lot of difficulty in their songs, if you care to find something beyond the few big hits. Try learning La Villa Strangiato or Cygnus X-1.
You can find a lot of guitarists in Brian's class or slightly better.
You can even find vocalists with the range of Freddie Mercury (but you have to look real hard)
You can compare John Deacon to Geddy Lee and make me laugh pretty hard. You're still going to have a tough time finding someone as solid and groovy as John. He didn't need Taurus pedals either.
Anybody ever try to learn the bass lines to Tom Sawyer? I just did while writing this thread. Done.
It's evident you know nothing about Taurus pedals.
Going off-topic, but... Had to LOL @ reference to Tom Sawyer. You just had to pick one of their easiest songs to prove what? Rush has always been a progrock band, and most of the time Geddy and Alex are the ones usually doing the composing of the songs. There's a whole lot of difficulty in their songs, if you care to find something beyond the few big hits. Try learning La Villa Strangiato or Cygnus X-1.
Dane
Dont forget John progressed a great deal in his career in Queen. And at the peak of his game, he opted for the quiet life.
I think he was a very good, creative bass player who could have been brilliant if he wanted to, but really he didn't.
A good bassplayer (or guitarist or singer) is not qualified solely by his skills and talent, but also by his/her charisma and performance. John had neither.
Great musician and person, just not superstar material.
I think he was a very good, creative bass player who could have been brilliant if he wanted to, but really he didn't.
A good bassplayer (or guitarist or singer) is not qualified solely by his skills and talent, but also by his/her charisma and performance. John had neither.
Great musician and person, just not superstar material.
Voice of Reason 2018
I wouldn't be an expert on this but I do know John has given us a lot of memorable bass lines. From Queen 1 I can think of Keep Yourslef Alive, Great King Rat and Liar.
And Queen had a huge hit with a song basically made up of bass, Another One Bites the Dust.
If I have made any techincal errors here please feel free to kick my head in - as if you ever needed permission!
And Queen had a huge hit with a song basically made up of bass, Another One Bites the Dust.
If I have made any techincal errors here please feel free to kick my head in - as if you ever needed permission!
mike hunt
JacquesDaniels wrote: skip wrote: Micrówave wrote: You can find a lot of drummers in Roger's class or even better.
You can find a lot of guitarists in Brian's class or slightly better.
You can even find vocalists with the range of Freddie Mercury (but you have to look real hard)
You can compare John Deacon to Geddy Lee and make me laugh pretty hard. You're still going to have a tough time finding someone as solid and groovy as John. He didn't need Taurus pedals either.
Anybody ever try to learn the bass lines to Tom Sawyer? I just did while writing this thread. Done.
It's evident you know nothing about Taurus pedals.
Going off-topic, but... Had to LOL @ reference to Tom Sawyer. You just had to pick one of their easiest songs to prove what? Rush has always been a progrock band, and most of the time Geddy and Alex are the ones usually doing the composing of the songs. There's a whole lot of difficulty in their songs, if you care to find something beyond the few big hits. Try learning La Villa Strangiato or Cygnus X-1.
Another example why I dismiss anything this microwave says...out of all the rush songs he picks the biggest hit. he's the type who probably only likes the Queen hits....maybe A night at the opera because it has Bo Rhap on it. ask him if he likes Queen2 or the first album?...of course not, they have no hits.
You can find a lot of guitarists in Brian's class or slightly better.
You can even find vocalists with the range of Freddie Mercury (but you have to look real hard)
You can compare John Deacon to Geddy Lee and make me laugh pretty hard. You're still going to have a tough time finding someone as solid and groovy as John. He didn't need Taurus pedals either.
Anybody ever try to learn the bass lines to Tom Sawyer? I just did while writing this thread. Done.
It's evident you know nothing about Taurus pedals.
Going off-topic, but... Had to LOL @ reference to Tom Sawyer. You just had to pick one of their easiest songs to prove what? Rush has always been a progrock band, and most of the time Geddy and Alex are the ones usually doing the composing of the songs. There's a whole lot of difficulty in their songs, if you care to find something beyond the few big hits. Try learning La Villa Strangiato or Cygnus X-1.
Another example why I dismiss anything this microwave says...out of all the rush songs he picks the biggest hit. he's the type who probably only likes the Queen hits....maybe A night at the opera because it has Bo Rhap on it. ask him if he likes Queen2 or the first album?...of course not, they have no hits.
Amazon
N0_Camping4U wrote:"John Deacon had an enormous amount of talent, I believe he was the most talented in the group." I love John (a terrific bass player and my third favourite song-writer in Queen), but I don't see how you can call him the most talented member of Queen when Brian May, and more significantly, Freddie Mercury were in the same group.
mike hunt wrote:"As great as he was Freddie wasn't a god.....there was room for other members to shine, and that's why brian's Influence gets bigger over time, and even roger gets mentioned more often these days as a drummer and overall talent. Havn't heard anything about john though, Except that he was good.....But no genious." Well, I think that Freddie was a god. :D However, I also think that John's not being mentioned so much has alot to do with his being such a quiet personality. Since Freddie's death, both Brian and Roger have been in the public eye much more than John and neither have adopted a quiet life with the family.
mike hunt wrote:"As great as he was Freddie wasn't a god.....there was room for other members to shine, and that's why brian's Influence gets bigger over time, and even roger gets mentioned more often these days as a drummer and overall talent. Havn't heard anything about john though, Except that he was good.....But no genious." Well, I think that Freddie was a god. :D However, I also think that John's not being mentioned so much has alot to do with his being such a quiet personality. Since Freddie's death, both Brian and Roger have been in the public eye much more than John and neither have adopted a quiet life with the family.
jamster1111
Just listen to The Millionaire Waltz and that will give you the answer
master marathon runner
Micrówave wrote: Ah, rare John Deacon factoids. Do tell!!!
And yes, Skip, you are the Taurus Pedal man. I encourage all Queenzoners to direct those questions to you. I do, however, have the pedals for my Hammond organ. So if you have any questions about adding low end when you play a B-3, I'd be able to help you out. It's really quite easy, but you have to have your drawbars set correctly or your harmonics will get muddy.
I do know that Taurus Pedals had something built it so if you accidentally hit two keys at the same time only one would sound (the lower one). The Hammonds don't have that... better get it right or don't play it!!!
Steve Hackett was better at 'em than Geddy Lee.
Taurus pedals ?..........................Load o' bull.
And yes, Skip, you are the Taurus Pedal man. I encourage all Queenzoners to direct those questions to you. I do, however, have the pedals for my Hammond organ. So if you have any questions about adding low end when you play a B-3, I'd be able to help you out. It's really quite easy, but you have to have your drawbars set correctly or your harmonics will get muddy.
I do know that Taurus Pedals had something built it so if you accidentally hit two keys at the same time only one would sound (the lower one). The Hammonds don't have that... better get it right or don't play it!!!
Steve Hackett was better at 'em than Geddy Lee.
Taurus pedals ?..........................Load o' bull.
The Real Wizard
mike hunt wrote: "a genious bass player is known as such even for the casual fan and often gets mentioned by muscians for generations to come.
Has john been called a genious outside of Queenzone?....Freddie yes, brian, yes.... Never heard anyone call john even a brilliant player."
It's because it takes more than a casual listen to Queen's music to appreciate the brilliance of John Deacon's playing. Entwistle, Squire, and Lee are in your face. Deacon isn't. And there aren't many people who aren't Queen fans who are going to give a deep and dedicated listen to Queen's records, because Queen unfortunately aren't known as an album band.
Ever seen Sabbath fans call Geezer Butler a brilliant bassist? I doubt it., because even they know he isn't. This isn't a case of fans being stepfords. Take it from a professional musician... John Deacon was an absolutely brilliant musician.
If you ask a chef about the composition of food and he says something is a brilliant recipe, you're free to disagree, but you'll look foolish if you think the more popular spice is better than the more obscure but superior spice.
Has john been called a genious outside of Queenzone?....Freddie yes, brian, yes.... Never heard anyone call john even a brilliant player."
It's because it takes more than a casual listen to Queen's music to appreciate the brilliance of John Deacon's playing. Entwistle, Squire, and Lee are in your face. Deacon isn't. And there aren't many people who aren't Queen fans who are going to give a deep and dedicated listen to Queen's records, because Queen unfortunately aren't known as an album band.
Ever seen Sabbath fans call Geezer Butler a brilliant bassist? I doubt it., because even they know he isn't. This isn't a case of fans being stepfords. Take it from a professional musician... John Deacon was an absolutely brilliant musician.
If you ask a chef about the composition of food and he says something is a brilliant recipe, you're free to disagree, but you'll look foolish if you think the more popular spice is better than the more obscure but superior spice.