I Can't Live With You

Regor, I'm not sure the Innuendo version of ICLWY is entirely Brian's demo. All I know is he programmed the drums, which is what we hear on the album. Even though Roger doesn't play the drums on the album version, he still sings the harmonies with Freddie and Brian, John is on bass and Freddie is singing lead.

I assume there's a proper Brian Demo of the song somewhere in the vault, with his guide vocal, but I have no way of knowing. It's said he planned it for Back To The Light, but I don't think it's known how far along he got before it became a Queen song for Innuendo.

As you can see, we're fraught with speculation.

Funny......I thought this Thread was about "I Can't Live With You", but it now seems to be all about Roger's drumming.....Well GREAT song, and Roger never really was that great a drummer anyhow so disinterested in that topic all together.....

too bad of your a retard ......  roger was a great drummer unless you want in conversation about duran duran the other roger taylor

lyricalassasin77 wrote: Funny......I thought this Thread was about "I Can't Live With You", but it now seems to be all about Roger's drumming.....Well GREAT song, and Roger never really was that great a drummer anyhow so disinterested in that topic all together.....
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It's ironic that Roger's drumming comes up in a thread about "I Can't Live With You," where Roger doesn't even provide drums on the album version.

These threads have short attention spans sometimes, so expect to see a lot of that. Nothing wrong with it either, as it can always pulled back to the original topic.

Some time ago I had discovered that if you oopsed the 1997 version of  ICLWY , you remove Freddie lead singer (exept in the bridge and the chorus of the song) and you hear the drums clearly highlighted in music.

 And I believe they have redone the whole ICLWY, except for the vocals, obviously.

Here is the oopsed of ICLWY (retake-1997): http://www.4shared.com/audio/iuQo9mwk/Queen_-_I_Cant_Live_With_You__.html

Seems like the instrumental version. Unlike other songs, this version oopsed of ICLWY '97 is quite interesting

I guess I'm at fault for making this a roger thread,  but my point was that the song and album could have used a better drummer.....sorry roger!.....I disagree that he was never a great drummer. In the 70's he was truly underated.  (live killer's anyone?)  after that i agree, not so great,  but the band still released great songs in the 80's.  And later on of course a great album with INNUENDO.

As I noted earlier, by the '80s, they weren't too concerned with "awesome drum fills" so much as "keep the beat" as they had long drifted away from Zeppelin-esque rock to more pop-rock.

I'd like to toss Roger's two '80s solo albums into the mix, though. I think there's some great drumming on those. "My Country I & II," "Man Of Fire," "Abandonfire" to name a few.

I understand you're point,  but even the rock songs like One vision, Hammer to fall, He doesn't sound all that  impressive.   He was less powerful and slower.  compare those songs with 'let me entertain you'   or 'dead on time'  brighton rock that's how a great rock drummer suppose to sound like.  I understand The drum sound on Jazz wasn't great, but the actual drum work is in another league compared to the 80's rock songs.   He aged as a drummer is what I'm getting at.

Rick wrote: mike hunt wrote: The Miracle?....Nah, don't think so.  Roger at his best is Sheer Heart attack to News of the world.  Jazz has some of his best work as a drummer but the sound messes it up.  Really anything from queen to the game has great stuff from him.   After that he became average.   Just the basic beat, nothing more.  Actually,  after' the game' i think made in Heaven is roger's best.  A nice full drum sound on that one.

Songs like Hang On In There and Was It All Worth It have perfect drumming with a perfect sound. But that is just my opinion.

I agree with you on Jazz. Awful sound, great drumming. Maybe his best on record.

You might be right about the drumming on the miracle.  Individually every member shines on that record, but i don't think about it much because the songs arn't great IMO.  KS, The miracle, IWIA, Rain must fall and was it all worth it all had great drums.....Even party was good musically.

Having seen this thread I was inspired to check out the re-take of it for the first time, and wow, that does sound better. Those drums are pure Roger. Also, this song is definitely up there with I Want It All on the list of tracks that should have been live classics had history turned out differently... I wonder why Brian never attempted it on the Another World tour...

I had asked a question about this remake over on QOL, and while I sparked an interesting discussion about it, never got a direct answer to my initial question: Was the bass guitar on the remake still Deacy's, or was it (as some rumour went) played by Brian?? I recall back in the day the original queen-fip.com site mentioning that the remake "featured new material from Brian and Roger" but no mention of any Deacy involvement in the remake's production!

Re: Deaky on bass for ICLWY 1997 Re-take

There are three possibilities:

1) Yes, John recorded new bass, possibly in the same sessions as the band recorded No One But You that same year, possibly at a different date.

2) No, Brian remixed/re-edited his original bass into the Re-take, as was done with Freddie's vocals. Or left the original bass work untouched and simply mixed it into the Re-take.

3) Brian recorded a new bass line for the Re-take.

I don't have any information to support or refute any one of these theories. Someone who plays guitar might be able to listen to the two and tell us whether it sounds like a different bass performance, which would at least eliminate the 2nd possibility.