rhyeking wrote:
"Hold On" is on the FM boxed set. No problem there.
Except that it's a horrible song ofcourse.
Pim Derks
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Jam Monkey
Another couple:
Living On My Own (7" Edit)
New York (Early Demo)
Living On My Own (7" Edit)
New York (Early Demo)
rhyeking
Pim Derks wrote: rhyeking wrote:
"Hold On" is on the FM boxed set. No problem there.
Except that it's a horrible song ofcourse.
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"The Laughing Gnome," "Tie A Yellow Ribbon Around The Old Oak Tree" and "The Macarena" are horrible songs.
"Hold On" won't win any awards, but it's an okay track. Jo gives Freddie a run for him money in the vocal department.
Let's not play the "I don't like it therefore it's a bad song" game. Even Queen's least loved songs have more going for them than the many genuinely awful songs that get released.
Moving on...
New York (Early Demo) - I thought about this, but since we have a more complete version, I'm not bothered that this was not included. I guess it deserves mention, though. That said, I didn't include that strange editted Franken-mix of a demo that is "I Was Born To Love You," leaked years ago.
Living On My Own (7" Single Mix) - I believe this is just the video version put to vinyl. Technically we were given it on the DVD, but yes, it couldn't have hurt to have on CD, I suppose.
Thinking more on the New York demo, it raises the point that it's unlikely that the genuine demos presented on the box are the only demo recordings of those songs (maybe one or two are, but I doubt even that). The release of the "Bad Circulation" Mr. Bad Guy shows us that Freddie did multiple versions, each with minor changes. That track is indentical to "Early Version", but with some small lyric differences. It appears that only the significantly different "drafts" of the song were presented. Do we need each recording or is the most relevant sampling all a boxed set needs?
Personally, I don't need 6 minorly different takes of one demo. Since New York was a previously unheard track, and for the interest of CD space, they put what is probably the most complete demo in the set.
It's something to think about if/when the Queen Anthologies get released. Let's not assume that every recording is a wholly unique demo.
"Hold On" is on the FM boxed set. No problem there.
Except that it's a horrible song ofcourse.
++++++++++++++++++++++++
"The Laughing Gnome," "Tie A Yellow Ribbon Around The Old Oak Tree" and "The Macarena" are horrible songs.
"Hold On" won't win any awards, but it's an okay track. Jo gives Freddie a run for him money in the vocal department.
Let's not play the "I don't like it therefore it's a bad song" game. Even Queen's least loved songs have more going for them than the many genuinely awful songs that get released.
Moving on...
New York (Early Demo) - I thought about this, but since we have a more complete version, I'm not bothered that this was not included. I guess it deserves mention, though. That said, I didn't include that strange editted Franken-mix of a demo that is "I Was Born To Love You," leaked years ago.
Living On My Own (7" Single Mix) - I believe this is just the video version put to vinyl. Technically we were given it on the DVD, but yes, it couldn't have hurt to have on CD, I suppose.
Thinking more on the New York demo, it raises the point that it's unlikely that the genuine demos presented on the box are the only demo recordings of those songs (maybe one or two are, but I doubt even that). The release of the "Bad Circulation" Mr. Bad Guy shows us that Freddie did multiple versions, each with minor changes. That track is indentical to "Early Version", but with some small lyric differences. It appears that only the significantly different "drafts" of the song were presented. Do we need each recording or is the most relevant sampling all a boxed set needs?
Personally, I don't need 6 minorly different takes of one demo. Since New York was a previously unheard track, and for the interest of CD space, they put what is probably the most complete demo in the set.
It's something to think about if/when the Queen Anthologies get released. Let's not assume that every recording is a wholly unique demo.
Jam Monkey
I agree that if every version of every track was included in would get boring. I am sure I remember GB saying that sometimes the band would take 20-30 takes to get something right, and you wouldn't include all of those.
It is sometimes interesting to hear how a track prgresses, although that version of the demo is so early the words 'New York' aren't even mentioned.
It is sometimes interesting to hear how a track prgresses, although that version of the demo is so early the words 'New York' aren't even mentioned.
GinjaNinja
What is the early demo of New York? I've never heard it :(
Jam Monkey
It's just a really early version, kind of like the home demo of Keep Passing The Open Windows.
rhyeking
It's the last entry on this page:
http://www.queenvault.com/mrbadguy.html
http://www.queenvault.com/mrbadguy.html
GinjaNinja
Thanks, any idea where I might find it?
Jam Monkey
It's not been publically shared, like alot of demos.
GinjaNinja
Damn. Thanks anyway.
Jam Monkey
I was listening to the Fugative Brothers Radio Mix and I believe it may be the same as the Sythesised Remix, unless someone tells me otherwise.
rhyeking
Hey, Jam,
I'm familiar with the Fugitive Brothers Radio Mix, but have never heard of the "Synthesized Mix". However, if you have them both and say they're the same, it's probable that the latter is just a different name for the former.
I'm familiar with the Fugitive Brothers Radio Mix, but have never heard of the "Synthesized Mix". However, if you have them both and say they're the same, it's probable that the latter is just a different name for the former.
Jam Monkey
Yes, the Sythesised Remix was a one of a trio of unreleased mixes by the Fugative Brothers, along with the Symphony and Jazz mixes. Clearly one of those mixes came to be know by another name.
That's one of the problems with all the unreleased material, no consistant naming conventions.
That's one of the problems with all the unreleased material, no consistant naming conventions.
rhyeking
The Fugitive Brothers did the following "Love Kills" remixes which I know of:
Rock Mix - appears on the FM box
Radio Mix - Unreleased
Jazzy Mix - Unreleased
Symphony Mix - Unreleased
Heck, even officially released stuff gets listed under mulitipe names:
Driven By You (Radio Mix) & (New Version) are the same
One Vision (Extended Version) & (Extended Vision)
Keep Yourself Alive (Long Lost Re-take) & (Long Lost Original Version)
Living On My Own (Underground Solutions Mix) & (Roger S Mix)
Business (US Radio Mix Uncut) & (Album Version)
To name a few
Rock Mix - appears on the FM box
Radio Mix - Unreleased
Jazzy Mix - Unreleased
Symphony Mix - Unreleased
Heck, even officially released stuff gets listed under mulitipe names:
Driven By You (Radio Mix) & (New Version) are the same
One Vision (Extended Version) & (Extended Vision)
Keep Yourself Alive (Long Lost Re-take) & (Long Lost Original Version)
Living On My Own (Underground Solutions Mix) & (Roger S Mix)
Business (US Radio Mix Uncut) & (Album Version)
To name a few
Jam Monkey
You clearly someone who appreicates the detail of all the material out there Rhyeking, I'm glad I not the only one.