ANNOUNCE: Matrix proyect, Concert the hammersmith odeon 26/12/1979
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neokaden · Member since
I have long had the idea to fix the sound that is available from the legendary concert for the people of Kampuchea, using two sound sources that are available, the big problem with that is that both sources are at a different speed speed .
Because of this, I had to resort to the technique of trial and error, and after several months of testing, I have found the right combination, resulting in a sound balance between the console and the audience.
All this I did using "Audacity", "Sound Forge" and "Adobe Audition", giving a pretty good result, unfortunately I have still some problems with equalization, therefore I need opinions on how the remaining work to achieve just the highest possible quality.
Demo youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtL44l3V6FY (thanks user queenhouse)
01. Jailhouse Rock + We Will Rock You (fast) (Ver.Final) 02. Let me entertain you (Ver. Final) 03. Somebody to love 04. 39` 04. We Will Rock You (slow)
I'm sorry but I have no idea what are you sharing here :-)
Is this some kind of "matrix" made from the TV source and the audience source ? Because you wrote information about 2 sources. BTW it's proJect, and not proyect :-)
neokaden · Member since
It is a sort of mixture between the bootleg audio and audio console, something to achieve a balanced sound quality
PS: Sorry for my poor English, but it is not my native language.
The Real Wizard · Member since
It's a great idea, and thanks for your hard work... but Pittrek has already done something like this..
It's called a 'matrix'... when you take two sources and play them at the same time.
Always check the links from Queenconcerts.com, and you can see what has already been shared.
Keanu Reeves · Member since
Sir GH wrote: "It's called a 'matrix...'
Whoa!
JacquesDaniels · Member since
Keanu Reeves wrote: Sir GH wrote: "It's called a 'matrix...'
Whoa!
Whooaaa!! It's that Keanu Reeves dude, dudes! Station!! But seriously, that's the best bad joke I've read in two hours.
neokaden · Member since
I've heard Pittrek work, and it seems pretty good, however, I saw that some songs have dramas with the mixtures, precisely because the speed of the two sources were not in sync (I know it's hard, I take months trying to me achieve exact synchrony, even with a margin of error thousandth)
Nevertheless, I repeat version is pretty good, but lacks solve this problem, however, although I have not much time to work with sound sources, I'm doing everything possible to achieve the desired high quality of official concerts .
So, I need opinions. Help me a lot.
The Real Wizard · Member since
The source material isn't perfect, so no amount of work will make it sound like it's an official release. Pittrek's version is probably as good as it'll get, unless the band release the show themselves.
pittrek · Member since
Well it's definitely worth to hear an alternate version and compare which one is better :-)
maggiko foka · Member since
Well i can't match with Pittrek's version immediately but this is surely worth to listen to.
Thanks for your hard work and for sharing !
Ciao
Stefano
neokaden · Member since
I still have yet to correct things, the idea is that between now and year-end list has songs that can be mixed.
Nummer2 · Member since
I like your matrix, but there could be indeed a lot improvement through the right EQ treatment. I played a bit with Audacity, and here's what I got. Might not be perfect, but surely a further improvement. The curve I used is (replace "[" and "]" with "<" and ">"):
[equalizationeffect]
[curve name="Hammy79-4217-2"]
[point f="20.000000000000" d="-26.990989685059"/]
[point f="44.916230156459" d="25.822071075439"/]
[point f="69.333810769408" d="12.250000000000"/]
[point f="78.822570649255" d="10.774776458740"/]
[point f="99.882996131855" d="10.774776458740"/]
[point f="139.695665396404" d="-1.027027130127"/]
[point f="332.863729781531" d="-3.387386322021"/]
[point f="725.746010661152" d="-3.977474212646"/]
[point f="1153.935542633602" d="-2.797294616699"/]
[point f="2371.316322718483" d="-2.207206726074"/]
[point f="3064.788701927736" d="-2.797294616699"/]
[point f="4503.157209631097" d="-3.977474212646"/]
[point f="7902.498185275893" d="-3.092342376709"/]
[point f="10417.068802544567" d="-3.092342376709"/]
[/curve]
[/equalizationeffect]
For the sound, listen to the attachment!
Nummer2 · Member since
And here's a screenshot of my adjustments.
neokaden · Member since
thanks for the help, but I could not download the flac, anyway I'm arranging the song "39 '" which I think was the worst I stay equalized.
What do you base that song to get the fix? It would be useful to me, that between reducing the hiss noise, saturation and noise, I was somewhat in quality. If only I had a better source of the songs on consoles ...
neokaden · Member since
I could fix the equalization of "39", now is "almost perfect"
I did not greatly increase the bass, because there are headphones that are over saturated but they can easily increase you comfortable with the equalizer on the music player they use. (For example, using JetAudio Machbass)
Here goes:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FZ8YF9GV
PS: now be on megaupload, but I will soon upload it to mediafire.