rubbertommywatergun
Dont Try Suicide is Walking on the Moon by the Police obv.
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Dim
Was all worth it - The guns of Navaron theme music, especially after 2:50 towards the end is more clear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvM4q0Vbsy0&feature=related
But it is inspiration, because it was used very clever and create a great rock "unknown Queen gem"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvM4q0Vbsy0&feature=related
But it is inspiration, because it was used very clever and create a great rock "unknown Queen gem"
Bigfish
rubbertommywatergun wrote: Dont Try Suicide is Walking on the Moon by the Police obv.
More parody than Plagiarised I think...
More parody than Plagiarised I think...
Bigfish
Dim wrote: Was all worth it - The guns of Navaron theme music, especially after 2:50 towards the end is more clear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvM4q0Vbsy0&feature=related
But it is inspiration, because it was used very clever and create a great rock "unknown Queen gem"
Yes i can see that but it does bare similarity to alot of incidental movie music and it was a trick they used before on The Hero which actually DID have incidental movie music..
As far as "Was it all worth it" being a gem is concerned, well, I just can't agree. The lyrics are just awful - although musically it's alot of fun..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvM4q0Vbsy0&feature=related
But it is inspiration, because it was used very clever and create a great rock "unknown Queen gem"
Yes i can see that but it does bare similarity to alot of incidental movie music and it was a trick they used before on The Hero which actually DID have incidental movie music..
As far as "Was it all worth it" being a gem is concerned, well, I just can't agree. The lyrics are just awful - although musically it's alot of fun..
thomasquinn 32989
"sounds vaguely like" =/= plagiarism
Most of the examples mentioned above are not plagiarism by any definition. If two songs share a chord-progression, this does not make it plagiarism. If two songs share cadences this is not plagiarism. If a song features a literal, unaltered fragment longer than four bars of another song without acknowledging the original authorship, *that* is plagiarism.
Most of the examples mentioned above are not plagiarism by any definition. If two songs share a chord-progression, this does not make it plagiarism. If two songs share cadences this is not plagiarism. If a song features a literal, unaltered fragment longer than four bars of another song without acknowledging the original authorship, *that* is plagiarism.
Bigfish
ThomasQuinn wrote: "sounds vaguely like" =/= plagiarism
Most of the examples mentioned above are not plagiarism by any definition. If two songs share a chord-progression, this does not make it plagiarism. If two songs share cadences this is not plagiarism. If a song features a literal, unaltered fragment longer than four bars of another song without acknowledging the original authorship, *that* is plagiarism.
Thanks but wasn't really seeking a legal definition or otherwise. The whole point of the discussion is just to know what people have noticed..
Most of the examples mentioned above are not plagiarism by any definition. If two songs share a chord-progression, this does not make it plagiarism. If two songs share cadences this is not plagiarism. If a song features a literal, unaltered fragment longer than four bars of another song without acknowledging the original authorship, *that* is plagiarism.
Thanks but wasn't really seeking a legal definition or otherwise. The whole point of the discussion is just to know what people have noticed..
Holly2003
I've heard it said that Gary Glitter's Rock & Roll Part 2 is similar to We Will Rock You.
Unfortunately, that's not the only connection between Queen and Glitter ...
http://giadinh.net.vn/UserFiles/Freddie_Mercury.jpg
Unfortunately, that's not the only connection between Queen and Glitter ...
http://giadinh.net.vn/UserFiles/Freddie_Mercury.jpg
thomasquinn 32989
Bigfish wrote: ThomasQuinn wrote: "sounds vaguely like" =/= plagiarism
Most of the examples mentioned above are not plagiarism by any definition. If two songs share a chord-progression, this does not make it plagiarism. If two songs share cadences this is not plagiarism. If a song features a literal, unaltered fragment longer than four bars of another song without acknowledging the original authorship, *that* is plagiarism.
Thanks but wasn't really seeking a legal definition or otherwise. The whole point of the discussion is just to know what people have noticed..
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The point is that what people have noticed isn't plagiarism. The guitar part in "Dani California" is plagiarism; the intro to Seven Seas of Rhye is vaguely similar to Pinball Wizard. If you start applying the term "plagiarism" to that, you devalue the meaning of the word "plagiarism". It is *exactly* the same thing as calling every conservative bigot a "fascist": by doing so, you devalue the meaning of the word "fascism" so that, sooner or later, it will no longer have any meaning at all.
Plagiarism is a serious problem and also a serious crime. You evidently don't understand what the word means, and so you throw it around much too lightly.
Most of the examples mentioned above are not plagiarism by any definition. If two songs share a chord-progression, this does not make it plagiarism. If two songs share cadences this is not plagiarism. If a song features a literal, unaltered fragment longer than four bars of another song without acknowledging the original authorship, *that* is plagiarism.
Thanks but wasn't really seeking a legal definition or otherwise. The whole point of the discussion is just to know what people have noticed..
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The point is that what people have noticed isn't plagiarism. The guitar part in "Dani California" is plagiarism; the intro to Seven Seas of Rhye is vaguely similar to Pinball Wizard. If you start applying the term "plagiarism" to that, you devalue the meaning of the word "plagiarism". It is *exactly* the same thing as calling every conservative bigot a "fascist": by doing so, you devalue the meaning of the word "fascism" so that, sooner or later, it will no longer have any meaning at all.
Plagiarism is a serious problem and also a serious crime. You evidently don't understand what the word means, and so you throw it around much too lightly.
Bigfish
ThomasQuinn wrote: Bigfish wrote: ThomasQuinn wrote: "sounds vaguely like" =/= plagiarism
Most of the examples mentioned above are not plagiarism by any definition. If two songs share a chord-progression, this does not make it plagiarism. If two songs share cadences this is not plagiarism. If a song features a literal, unaltered fragment longer than four bars of another song without acknowledging the original authorship, *that* is plagiarism.
Thanks but wasn't really seeking a legal definition or otherwise. The whole point of the discussion is just to know what people have noticed..
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The point is that what people have noticed isn't plagiarism. The guitar part in "Dani California" is plagiarism; the intro to Seven Seas of Rhye is vaguely similar to Pinball Wizard. If you start applying the term "plagiarism" to that, you devalue the meaning of the word "plagiarism". It is *exactly* the same thing as calling every conservative bigot a "fascist": by doing so, you devalue the meaning of the word "fascism" so that, sooner or later, it will no longer have any meaning at all.
Plagiarism is a serious problem and also a serious crime. You evidently don't understand what the word means, and so you throw it around much too lightly.
So have you noticed anything similar, borrowed, plagiarised or inspired by in the Queen catalogue that hasn't already been mentioned, Thomas ?
Most of the examples mentioned above are not plagiarism by any definition. If two songs share a chord-progression, this does not make it plagiarism. If two songs share cadences this is not plagiarism. If a song features a literal, unaltered fragment longer than four bars of another song without acknowledging the original authorship, *that* is plagiarism.
Thanks but wasn't really seeking a legal definition or otherwise. The whole point of the discussion is just to know what people have noticed..
====
The point is that what people have noticed isn't plagiarism. The guitar part in "Dani California" is plagiarism; the intro to Seven Seas of Rhye is vaguely similar to Pinball Wizard. If you start applying the term "plagiarism" to that, you devalue the meaning of the word "plagiarism". It is *exactly* the same thing as calling every conservative bigot a "fascist": by doing so, you devalue the meaning of the word "fascism" so that, sooner or later, it will no longer have any meaning at all.
Plagiarism is a serious problem and also a serious crime. You evidently don't understand what the word means, and so you throw it around much too lightly.
So have you noticed anything similar, borrowed, plagiarised or inspired by in the Queen catalogue that hasn't already been mentioned, Thomas ?
Shvili
these two sound similar to me.
ZZ Top-Tush (from 1:10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqF7ZGfFaD0
Queen - Tie Your Mother Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB2MnIIdMw
ZZ Top-Tush (from 1:10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqF7ZGfFaD0
Queen - Tie Your Mother Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvB2MnIIdMw
PrimeJiveUSA
There's definitely a bit of "ZZ Top" guitar sound in passages of "Don't Lose Your Head".
Bigfish
Something I did overlook was the Intro to 'It's a Hard Life'
"I don't want my freedom..." etc.
This is actually taken from 'Vesti La Guibba' which is an opera aria from PAGLIACCI written by Rugerro Leoncavallo.
"I don't want my freedom..." etc.
This is actually taken from 'Vesti La Guibba' which is an opera aria from PAGLIACCI written by Rugerro Leoncavallo.
Bigfish
PrimeJiveUSA wrote: There's definitely a bit of "ZZ Top" guitar sound in passages of "Don't Lose Your Head".
Yes, and 'Headlong' - definately some Topism going on there.
Yes, and 'Headlong' - definately some Topism going on there.
Groucho Marx
Groucho Marx
Lots of great ideas for anybody who likes to do mashups! Haha. There are a TON of similarities like this in all music. I'm willing to bet most of the time it isn't intentional.
Someone mentioned Invisible Man copying Ghostbusters. First of all, there are some lyrical similarities, but musically - not so much. Besides, haven't you heard of how Ray Parker, Jr. stole it from Huey Lewis? Look it up. It's pretty interesting. That would be a case of intentional plagiarism, I think. Just look at how many hits Huey Lewis has had compared to Ray Parker, Jr.? Seems obvious to me.
Someone mentioned Invisible Man copying Ghostbusters. First of all, there are some lyrical similarities, but musically - not so much. Besides, haven't you heard of how Ray Parker, Jr. stole it from Huey Lewis? Look it up. It's pretty interesting. That would be a case of intentional plagiarism, I think. Just look at how many hits Huey Lewis has had compared to Ray Parker, Jr.? Seems obvious to me.