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Yeah, that would be like, so awesome! :D
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greaserkat wrote:
"Yes. And it was a beautiful cup (regardless of the whole Maradona incident), and the big Yank productions were great for the whole show, even the colours worn by the referees, etc... but still, I think other nations should be given the chance before having it again dominated by the States (as it tends to happen with nearly every other major sport). Otherwise we should simply have all world cups in Hollywood and get Morgan Freeman to be the referee, with Tracy Jordan handing the trophy and Diana Ross lip-synching. "
What an absolutely stupid and ignorant response.
From a personal perspective, I'd have loved to have seen a group match 20 miles from my home in Baltimore in 2022. Would have made a trip to see another indoor game in Pontiac as I did in '94.
Best attended WC ever, existing facilities, 'melting pot' Americans who are nuts over the sport..........
The best thing for the WC, would have been a 'Euro' bid for 2018. Group matches in the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, et al....round of 16 and quarters at four sites, semis in .....oh, let's say Madrid and London, finals in Berlin.
And then the US for 2022.
I just don't get the decision.
How many people are going to drive through Saudi Arabia to get to Qatar..........oops, wait a second.........moving on......how many are going to fly within a stone's throw of Iran.....oops, wait a second,..........does your passport say you visited Israel...............are you Jewish...................??????????????????
2026....Antartica fits perfectly into the mold of 'lands to extend the popularity' of the sport. Money can buy happiness. How Qatar will transcend the sport to the masses blows my mind.
"Yes. And it was a beautiful cup (regardless of the whole Maradona incident), and the big Yank productions were great for the whole show, even the colours worn by the referees, etc... but still, I think other nations should be given the chance before having it again dominated by the States (as it tends to happen with nearly every other major sport). Otherwise we should simply have all world cups in Hollywood and get Morgan Freeman to be the referee, with Tracy Jordan handing the trophy and Diana Ross lip-synching. "
What an absolutely stupid and ignorant response.
From a personal perspective, I'd have loved to have seen a group match 20 miles from my home in Baltimore in 2022. Would have made a trip to see another indoor game in Pontiac as I did in '94.
Best attended WC ever, existing facilities, 'melting pot' Americans who are nuts over the sport..........
The best thing for the WC, would have been a 'Euro' bid for 2018. Group matches in the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, et al....round of 16 and quarters at four sites, semis in .....oh, let's say Madrid and London, finals in Berlin.
And then the US for 2022.
I just don't get the decision.
How many people are going to drive through Saudi Arabia to get to Qatar..........oops, wait a second.........moving on......how many are going to fly within a stone's throw of Iran.....oops, wait a second,..........does your passport say you visited Israel...............are you Jewish...................??????????????????
2026....Antartica fits perfectly into the mold of 'lands to extend the popularity' of the sport. Money can buy happiness. How Qatar will transcend the sport to the masses blows my mind.
its_a_hard_life 26994
England is blaming the British media. Something like that anyway.
Sebastian
> What an absolutely stupid and ignorant response.
No, it wasn't.
> From a personal perspective, I'd have loved to have seen a group match 20 miles from my home in Baltimore in 2022.
Wonderful. But other people also have the right to see group matches 20 miles from their home, not only Yanks.
> Would have made a trip to see another indoor game in Pontiac as I did in '94.
So... you already enjoyed it. Let's give other people a chance.
> Best attended WC ever, existing facilities, 'melting pot' Americans who are nuts over the sport....
It was a great WC. So, now give other countries a chance to host a great one too, rather than giving US (or Spain, or Japan, or Korea) another one.
> I just don't get the decision.
The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
> How many people are going to drive through Saudi Arabia to get to Qatar....
Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.
> how many are going to fly within a stone's throw of Iran.....oops
Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.
> does your passport say you visited Israel...............are you Jewish...................?
The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
> 2026....Antartica fits perfectly into the mold of 'lands to extend the popularity' of the sport.
Maybe it does. Things change a lot in 16 years. It's nice to give other nations a chance. The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe.
> Money can buy happiness.
No, it can't. But the world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
> How Qatar will transcend the sport to the masses blows my mind.
Maybe it won't, but still, the world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
No, it wasn't.
> From a personal perspective, I'd have loved to have seen a group match 20 miles from my home in Baltimore in 2022.
Wonderful. But other people also have the right to see group matches 20 miles from their home, not only Yanks.
> Would have made a trip to see another indoor game in Pontiac as I did in '94.
So... you already enjoyed it. Let's give other people a chance.
> Best attended WC ever, existing facilities, 'melting pot' Americans who are nuts over the sport....
It was a great WC. So, now give other countries a chance to host a great one too, rather than giving US (or Spain, or Japan, or Korea) another one.
> I just don't get the decision.
The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
> How many people are going to drive through Saudi Arabia to get to Qatar....
Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.
> how many are going to fly within a stone's throw of Iran.....oops
Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.
> does your passport say you visited Israel...............are you Jewish...................?
The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
> 2026....Antartica fits perfectly into the mold of 'lands to extend the popularity' of the sport.
Maybe it does. Things change a lot in 16 years. It's nice to give other nations a chance. The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe.
> Money can buy happiness.
No, it can't. But the world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
> How Qatar will transcend the sport to the masses blows my mind.
Maybe it won't, but still, the world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
The Real Wizard
Haha, best response ever.
*goodco*
>> What an absolutely stupid and ignorant response.
>No, it wasn't.
Sure it was. A very anti-American bias. Expected more out of the two of you. Many could name three B-celebrities, a glitz capital, a pun for any country, and slam or ridicule. Will not choose to in this post.
>> From a personal perspective, I'd have loved to have seen a group match 20 miles from my home in Baltimore in 2022.
>Wonderful. But other people also have the right to see group matches 20 miles from their home, not only Yanks.
>> Would have made a trip to see another indoor game in Pontiac as I did in '94.
>So... you already enjoyed it. Let's give other people a chance.
Yes......as I pointed out, it was a personal perspective. And very biased. I wanted the WC here again. The USA has the stadiums, hotels, a proven record of great attendance. 70K in B'more last year for a 'friendly'. Qualified for past Cups. I now also understand that it might be another thirty years to host. The UK lost out again, and has not hosted since '66. wtf? A pity that Belgium/Netherlands did not get the 2018 games.
We would have loved to go to London / Amsterdam.
And as pointed out, a 'Euro' bid would be cool....and damn logical. If any of you are reading this..................
>> Best attended WC ever, existing facilities, 'melting pot' Americans who are nuts over the sport....
>It was a great WC. So, now give other countries a chance to host a great one too, rather than giving US (or Spain, or Japan, or Korea) another one.
Agreed.
>> I just don't get the decision.
>The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
Agreed.
>> How many people are going to drive through Saudi Arabia to get to Qatar....
>Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.
>> how many are going to fly within a stone's throw of Iran.....oops
>Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.
Agreed. Who'd a thunk in the 80's that South Africa would ever host a cup?
moving on....
>> How Qatar will transcend the sport to the masses blows my mind.
>Maybe it won't, but still, the world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
My wife went to Russia on a cruise during the summer. Who knows.....we might go for a WC vacation. Qatar? Nope.
I have been reading up on the various events Qatar has hosted over the past decade. It might work. So I stand corrected in regards to that. For the drinking hooligans and hotsie totsie females who want to show any skin............beware. For those that can't handle 120F temps.....stay home.
We were so looking forward to seeing group matches in our back yard. Or, save money for travel and go to the UK or Europe. Those dreams are gone.
One thing that cannot be ignored....Qatar has never qualified for the WC. They bought their way in. No arguing that.
>No, it wasn't.
Sure it was. A very anti-American bias. Expected more out of the two of you. Many could name three B-celebrities, a glitz capital, a pun for any country, and slam or ridicule. Will not choose to in this post.
>> From a personal perspective, I'd have loved to have seen a group match 20 miles from my home in Baltimore in 2022.
>Wonderful. But other people also have the right to see group matches 20 miles from their home, not only Yanks.
>> Would have made a trip to see another indoor game in Pontiac as I did in '94.
>So... you already enjoyed it. Let's give other people a chance.
Yes......as I pointed out, it was a personal perspective. And very biased. I wanted the WC here again. The USA has the stadiums, hotels, a proven record of great attendance. 70K in B'more last year for a 'friendly'. Qualified for past Cups. I now also understand that it might be another thirty years to host. The UK lost out again, and has not hosted since '66. wtf? A pity that Belgium/Netherlands did not get the 2018 games.
We would have loved to go to London / Amsterdam.
And as pointed out, a 'Euro' bid would be cool....and damn logical. If any of you are reading this..................
>> Best attended WC ever, existing facilities, 'melting pot' Americans who are nuts over the sport....
>It was a great WC. So, now give other countries a chance to host a great one too, rather than giving US (or Spain, or Japan, or Korea) another one.
Agreed.
>> I just don't get the decision.
>The world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
Agreed.
>> How many people are going to drive through Saudi Arabia to get to Qatar....
>Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.
>> how many are going to fly within a stone's throw of Iran.....oops
>Probably many. Things change a lot in 12 years.
Agreed. Who'd a thunk in the 80's that South Africa would ever host a cup?
moving on....
>> How Qatar will transcend the sport to the masses blows my mind.
>Maybe it won't, but still, the world's not just the States, South America, Mexico and Western Europe. It's great that other territories also get a chance.
My wife went to Russia on a cruise during the summer. Who knows.....we might go for a WC vacation. Qatar? Nope.
I have been reading up on the various events Qatar has hosted over the past decade. It might work. So I stand corrected in regards to that. For the drinking hooligans and hotsie totsie females who want to show any skin............beware. For those that can't handle 120F temps.....stay home.
We were so looking forward to seeing group matches in our back yard. Or, save money for travel and go to the UK or Europe. Those dreams are gone.
One thing that cannot be ignored....Qatar has never qualified for the WC. They bought their way in. No arguing that.
Sebastian
Neither my point is more valid than yours, nor yours is more valid than mine. I suppose we agree to disagree here.
I'm not anti-US BTW, and I loved the '94 WC. I'm pro-give-other-nations-a-chance though, and that's my point. I love it that, after all that happened in the 20th century, Russia's given a well-deserved opportunity. As for Qatar, of course money was a factor, but the point still is they're a perfect candidate for what world cups are nowadays: they've got the venues, the hotels, the uniqueness, and they'll surely put a lot of effort in making it as wonderful as possible in terms of coverage, etc. Which of course the States also did and could repeat any time (hell, if Russia or Qatar cancelled two weeks before the opening ceremony, the Yanks would probably be the only ones who could organise and pull off everything in such short notice), but then again, it's nice to give other people a chance.
As for Qatar not qualifying so far... well, you've got to consider two aspects:
* They could still enter the '14 and '18 tournaments and, for all we know, they could perform well in both. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
* The way preliminary stages are arranged benefits some nations way too much and others way too little. What's the last time a WC was held without having Mexico or the States (at least one of them)? Sure, but in order to qualify, all Mexico and America have to do is beating the likes of Trinidad & Tobago or Guatemala. When Bolivia qualified (other than simply having an invitation, IIRC), they had to beat Brazil (for the first time ever) and knock out Uruguay. Talk about a tough campaign. If the AFC qualification was also divided by zones and all Qatar had to do to earn a place was beating Jordan or Yemen, and if there were Panamerican qualification matches rather than CONMEBOL and CONCACAF and USA had to face Brazil and Argentina, we'd have both more WC's attended by Qatar (and other nations such as Bahrain) and less WC's with Mexico or the States.
Again, I'm not denying the fact that both Mexico and the States have deserved to be there, and they're great teams and all, but they've had it way easier than others. Ever wondered why Turkey wasn't on the last one? They were on the same group with the eventual champions. Ireland were on the same group as then reigning champions and had to face then runners-up for play-offs. Meanwhile, the States struggled to barely get a draw on the 88th minute against... El Salvador.
I'm not anti-US BTW, and I loved the '94 WC. I'm pro-give-other-nations-a-chance though, and that's my point. I love it that, after all that happened in the 20th century, Russia's given a well-deserved opportunity. As for Qatar, of course money was a factor, but the point still is they're a perfect candidate for what world cups are nowadays: they've got the venues, the hotels, the uniqueness, and they'll surely put a lot of effort in making it as wonderful as possible in terms of coverage, etc. Which of course the States also did and could repeat any time (hell, if Russia or Qatar cancelled two weeks before the opening ceremony, the Yanks would probably be the only ones who could organise and pull off everything in such short notice), but then again, it's nice to give other people a chance.
As for Qatar not qualifying so far... well, you've got to consider two aspects:
* They could still enter the '14 and '18 tournaments and, for all we know, they could perform well in both. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
* The way preliminary stages are arranged benefits some nations way too much and others way too little. What's the last time a WC was held without having Mexico or the States (at least one of them)? Sure, but in order to qualify, all Mexico and America have to do is beating the likes of Trinidad & Tobago or Guatemala. When Bolivia qualified (other than simply having an invitation, IIRC), they had to beat Brazil (for the first time ever) and knock out Uruguay. Talk about a tough campaign. If the AFC qualification was also divided by zones and all Qatar had to do to earn a place was beating Jordan or Yemen, and if there were Panamerican qualification matches rather than CONMEBOL and CONCACAF and USA had to face Brazil and Argentina, we'd have both more WC's attended by Qatar (and other nations such as Bahrain) and less WC's with Mexico or the States.
Again, I'm not denying the fact that both Mexico and the States have deserved to be there, and they're great teams and all, but they've had it way easier than others. Ever wondered why Turkey wasn't on the last one? They were on the same group with the eventual champions. Ireland were on the same group as then reigning champions and had to face then runners-up for play-offs. Meanwhile, the States struggled to barely get a draw on the 88th minute against... El Salvador.
*goodco*
Sebastian, you've forced me to learn more in the past week about soccer and the WC history. Not sure if a 'thank you' is in order............but , well, 'thank you' (gnaws teeth).
Agreed, the 'regional' concept helps some and hurts others. A team/country could be the 5th best in the world, but if only four teams from a region can make it to the WC, it is eliminated, and the 100th best team from a weak 'regional' advances (North Korea, anyone?). I still do prefer the 'best of region' concept in all sports, otherwise it comes down to popularity polls. In which case, it would probably just be Europe and South American countries battling it out. After all, let's just have the champion from Europe play the winner of Brazil/Argentina. That's what the world wants to see (regardless of qualifications).
I still don't like the choice. Personal bias. I also feel for some of my co-horts who are devastated because they expected a trip to the UK or Europe or hosting friends here. We will just have to gather with 3000+ fans from various countries to watch the games on a big screen behind the county courthouse.......and have a ton of fun. No vuvuzelas allowed.
One thing that is not indisputable.............worst soccer goal attempt ever?;-)))
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/11/17/worst-soccer-miss-of-all-time-qatars-fahad-khalfan/
Agreed, the 'regional' concept helps some and hurts others. A team/country could be the 5th best in the world, but if only four teams from a region can make it to the WC, it is eliminated, and the 100th best team from a weak 'regional' advances (North Korea, anyone?). I still do prefer the 'best of region' concept in all sports, otherwise it comes down to popularity polls. In which case, it would probably just be Europe and South American countries battling it out. After all, let's just have the champion from Europe play the winner of Brazil/Argentina. That's what the world wants to see (regardless of qualifications).
I still don't like the choice. Personal bias. I also feel for some of my co-horts who are devastated because they expected a trip to the UK or Europe or hosting friends here. We will just have to gather with 3000+ fans from various countries to watch the games on a big screen behind the county courthouse.......and have a ton of fun. No vuvuzelas allowed.
One thing that is not indisputable.............worst soccer goal attempt ever?;-)))
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/11/17/worst-soccer-miss-of-all-time-qatars-fahad-khalfan/
*goodco*
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take your pick on what's wrong with this.............
take your pick on what's wrong with this.............
Mr Mercury
^ I particularly liked the sound of silence that came after Sepp Bloaters gay "joke"...........
ole-the-first
it's just a disaster for Russia. Russian officials will stole most of appropriated funds and simple people still will live in poverty and devastation, robbed by these officials and businessmen.