kosimodo
Just listened to rainbow and man HE sang! Just love White Queen.
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Oscar J
The March version of White Queen easily eclipses the studio version, vocal wise.
kosimodo
And why? He was trying to sing beautifull back then, without His power.
MC_Sandman
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]MC_Sandman wrote:[/b]
My general opinion of his tours follow this order:
1. Hot Space Tour (Unparalleled soul and emotion poured out into every song. Only issue is Japan.)
2. Crazy Tour (As said above, "he can sing whatever damn well note he likes".)
3. Magic Tour (The raw power... IT BURNS!)
4. The Game Tour (Although Freddie starts to sound flat on higher notes, he can still "sing whatever damn well note he likes".)
5. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (They were still playing their asses off to impress everyone, and Freddie shows that attitude in the music.)
6. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie was usually in pretty good shape on this tour.)
7. A Night at the Opera Tour (Usually in okay shape.)
8. Queen Tour (From the few available recordings we have, it sounds like they were trying their hardest all the time, especially Freddie.)
9. Queen II Tour (Pretty much the same as the Queen Tour, in my opinion. However, I find most of the gigs on this tour all sound the same.)
10. Jazz Tour (Freddie's voice never reached "good" levels during this because somebody decided it was a good idea to go on tour in the same month as the Jazz recording sessions. Also, Japan.)
11. The Works Tour (Oh, Works Tour. Where should we even start? "WORKS TOUR TAKE NOTES!!!!!!!!!1111!" -YouTube top comments. Also, Japan - had the best gigs on the tour, except for Rio and early 1984.)[/QUOTE]
What about News Of The World Tour?[/QUOTE]
I fuckin forgot the NOTW Tour. I don't deserve to be a loyal Queen fan.
JK. I edited my list to include it.
[QUOTE] [b]MC_Sandman wrote:[/b]
My general opinion of his tours follow this order:
1. Hot Space Tour (Unparalleled soul and emotion poured out into every song. Only issue is Japan.)
2. Crazy Tour (As said above, "he can sing whatever damn well note he likes".)
3. Magic Tour (The raw power... IT BURNS!)
4. The Game Tour (Although Freddie starts to sound flat on higher notes, he can still "sing whatever damn well note he likes".)
5. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (They were still playing their asses off to impress everyone, and Freddie shows that attitude in the music.)
6. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie was usually in pretty good shape on this tour.)
7. A Night at the Opera Tour (Usually in okay shape.)
8. Queen Tour (From the few available recordings we have, it sounds like they were trying their hardest all the time, especially Freddie.)
9. Queen II Tour (Pretty much the same as the Queen Tour, in my opinion. However, I find most of the gigs on this tour all sound the same.)
10. Jazz Tour (Freddie's voice never reached "good" levels during this because somebody decided it was a good idea to go on tour in the same month as the Jazz recording sessions. Also, Japan.)
11. The Works Tour (Oh, Works Tour. Where should we even start? "WORKS TOUR TAKE NOTES!!!!!!!!!1111!" -YouTube top comments. Also, Japan - had the best gigs on the tour, except for Rio and early 1984.)[/QUOTE]
What about News Of The World Tour?[/QUOTE]
I fuckin forgot the NOTW Tour. I don't deserve to be a loyal Queen fan.
JK. I edited my list to include it.
MC_Sandman
One thing we have to consider though is that the Works Tour didn't actually have as many "bad" gigs as the Jazz Tour, in terms of Freddie's vocal shape. Let's look at the Works Tour for a bit.
On the Works Tour, the first four or so recorded gigs are actually pretty good (keep in mind we don't have Dublin 8/29/1984 yet). After that we have the third Birmingham, and that's where it shits itself. Including the third Birmingham, we then have six "bad" gigs until Milan 9/14/1984, and both Milan concerts are actually pretty good. Then we have Munich 9/16, which isn't good, but isn't bad, per se, since it's kind of inconsistent. After that we have Paris 9/18, which is shit, but after that we have Leiden 9/20, which is an okay concert. Then we have second Brussels, which is also shit, Hannover 9/22, which is okay, and Berlin 9/24, which is also okay. Frankfurt 9/26 is a good gig (by 1984 standards), Stuttgart 9/27 is frickin' amazing, and then both Vienna concerts are shit. After those we have only one available recording from Sun City, on 10/17, and that's an amazing concert.
Okay, so that's 1984 covered. After that we have 1/12/1985 Rock in Rio, which was amazing, and then we have 1/19/1985 Rock in Rio, which was shit. Then they take a little break until the Aussie gigs, and our first available concert from the Aussie leg is Melbourne 4/19, which is pretty good, and Melbourne 4/20 is just as good as the first one. Sydney 4/26 is pretty good, and 4/28 is okay, but not good. Next we have Japan. Tokyo 5/8 and 5/9 are both amazing. 5/11 is okay, but nowhere near the level of the previous two concerts. Nagoya 5/13 is really good and Osaka 5/15 is pretty good as well.
Our total comes to:
Good gigs: 17
Okay gigs: 6
Shit gigs: 11
While this might not be the most accurate method of measuring the overall "goodness" of an entire tour, I still think that Freddie's voice had more average bad days on the Jazz Tour than on the Works Tour. In my next post, which I'll probably do sometime in the next week (since this one took fucking ages to do and the Jazz Tour will probably take even longer), I'll look at the Jazz Tour and we'll see how that adds up.
On the Works Tour, the first four or so recorded gigs are actually pretty good (keep in mind we don't have Dublin 8/29/1984 yet). After that we have the third Birmingham, and that's where it shits itself. Including the third Birmingham, we then have six "bad" gigs until Milan 9/14/1984, and both Milan concerts are actually pretty good. Then we have Munich 9/16, which isn't good, but isn't bad, per se, since it's kind of inconsistent. After that we have Paris 9/18, which is shit, but after that we have Leiden 9/20, which is an okay concert. Then we have second Brussels, which is also shit, Hannover 9/22, which is okay, and Berlin 9/24, which is also okay. Frankfurt 9/26 is a good gig (by 1984 standards), Stuttgart 9/27 is frickin' amazing, and then both Vienna concerts are shit. After those we have only one available recording from Sun City, on 10/17, and that's an amazing concert.
Okay, so that's 1984 covered. After that we have 1/12/1985 Rock in Rio, which was amazing, and then we have 1/19/1985 Rock in Rio, which was shit. Then they take a little break until the Aussie gigs, and our first available concert from the Aussie leg is Melbourne 4/19, which is pretty good, and Melbourne 4/20 is just as good as the first one. Sydney 4/26 is pretty good, and 4/28 is okay, but not good. Next we have Japan. Tokyo 5/8 and 5/9 are both amazing. 5/11 is okay, but nowhere near the level of the previous two concerts. Nagoya 5/13 is really good and Osaka 5/15 is pretty good as well.
Our total comes to:
Good gigs: 17
Okay gigs: 6
Shit gigs: 11
While this might not be the most accurate method of measuring the overall "goodness" of an entire tour, I still think that Freddie's voice had more average bad days on the Jazz Tour than on the Works Tour. In my next post, which I'll probably do sometime in the next week (since this one took fucking ages to do and the Jazz Tour will probably take even longer), I'll look at the Jazz Tour and we'll see how that adds up.
MC_Sandman
[QUOTE] [b]MC_Sandman wrote:[/b]
My general opinion of his tours follow this order:
1. Hot Space Tour (Unparalleled soul and emotion poured out into every song. Only issue is Japan.)
2. Crazy Tour (As said above, "he can sing whatever damn well note he likes".)
3. Magic Tour (The raw power... IT BURNS!)
4. The Game Tour (Although Freddie starts to sound flat on higher notes, he can still "sing whatever damn well note he likes". However, Japan.)
5. News of the World Tour (Freddie's voice was in good shape for most of this tour, with only a few off gigs.)
6. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (They were still playing their asses off to impress everyone, and Freddie shows that attitude in the music.)
7. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie was usually in pretty good shape on this tour.)
8. A Night at the Opera Tour (Usually in okay shape.)
9. Queen Tour (From the few available recordings we have, it sounds like they were trying their hardest all the time, especially Freddie.)
10. Queen II Tour (Pretty much the same as the Queen Tour, in my opinion. However, I find most of the gigs on this tour all sound the same.)
11. Jazz Tour (Freddie's voice never reached "good" levels during this because somebody decided it was a good idea to go on tour in the same month as the Jazz recording sessions. Also, Japan.)
12. The Works Tour (Oh, Works Tour. Where should we even start? "WORKS TOUR TAKE NOTES!!!!!!!!!1111!" -YouTube top comments. Also, Japan - had the best gigs on the tour, except for Rio and early 1984.)[/QUOTE]
I've decided to revise my list as I went through and listened to some older bootlegs.
1. Magic Tour (Almost no bad gigs. Also, reply to me with what you guys think are Freddie's worst Magic gigs.)
2. Crazy Tour (He can sing whatever note he likes.)
3. The Game Tour (Only issue is Freddie's flatness on higher notes. Also, Japan.)
4. Hot Space Tour (If we were just talking about later Euro Hot Space gigs, this would be at the number 1 spot. However, a lot of people forget about America and Japan when talking about this tour, as well as those really early Euro Hot Space concerts. Voice cracks everywhere!)
5. Queen II Tour (Really good.)
6. Queen I Tour (Pretty much on par with the II Tour.)
7. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (Also good.)
8. News of the World Tour (Really pretty good. See my above descriptions.)
9. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie wasn't daring, but usually wasn't bad either.)
10. A Night at the Opera Tour (Hit and miss.)
11. Jazz Tour (BAD BAD BAD.)
12. The Works Tour (WORST WORST WORST.)
My general opinion of his tours follow this order:
1. Hot Space Tour (Unparalleled soul and emotion poured out into every song. Only issue is Japan.)
2. Crazy Tour (As said above, "he can sing whatever damn well note he likes".)
3. Magic Tour (The raw power... IT BURNS!)
4. The Game Tour (Although Freddie starts to sound flat on higher notes, he can still "sing whatever damn well note he likes". However, Japan.)
5. News of the World Tour (Freddie's voice was in good shape for most of this tour, with only a few off gigs.)
6. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (They were still playing their asses off to impress everyone, and Freddie shows that attitude in the music.)
7. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie was usually in pretty good shape on this tour.)
8. A Night at the Opera Tour (Usually in okay shape.)
9. Queen Tour (From the few available recordings we have, it sounds like they were trying their hardest all the time, especially Freddie.)
10. Queen II Tour (Pretty much the same as the Queen Tour, in my opinion. However, I find most of the gigs on this tour all sound the same.)
11. Jazz Tour (Freddie's voice never reached "good" levels during this because somebody decided it was a good idea to go on tour in the same month as the Jazz recording sessions. Also, Japan.)
12. The Works Tour (Oh, Works Tour. Where should we even start? "WORKS TOUR TAKE NOTES!!!!!!!!!1111!" -YouTube top comments. Also, Japan - had the best gigs on the tour, except for Rio and early 1984.)[/QUOTE]
I've decided to revise my list as I went through and listened to some older bootlegs.
1. Magic Tour (Almost no bad gigs. Also, reply to me with what you guys think are Freddie's worst Magic gigs.)
2. Crazy Tour (He can sing whatever note he likes.)
3. The Game Tour (Only issue is Freddie's flatness on higher notes. Also, Japan.)
4. Hot Space Tour (If we were just talking about later Euro Hot Space gigs, this would be at the number 1 spot. However, a lot of people forget about America and Japan when talking about this tour, as well as those really early Euro Hot Space concerts. Voice cracks everywhere!)
5. Queen II Tour (Really good.)
6. Queen I Tour (Pretty much on par with the II Tour.)
7. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (Also good.)
8. News of the World Tour (Really pretty good. See my above descriptions.)
9. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie wasn't daring, but usually wasn't bad either.)
10. A Night at the Opera Tour (Hit and miss.)
11. Jazz Tour (BAD BAD BAD.)
12. The Works Tour (WORST WORST WORST.)
Oscar J
I think pretty much all Magic Tours are bad gigs, Freddie-wise. Not a fan of his tone, and actually find most gigs hard to listen to, even without considering how the shows are musically inferior in general to their 70's shows.
Krypto_98
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[b]MC_Sandman wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]MC_Sandman wrote:[/b]
My general opinion of his tours follow this order:
1. Hot Space Tour (Unparalleled soul and emotion poured out into every song. Only issue is Japan.)
2. Crazy Tour (As said above, "he can sing whatever damn well note he likes".)
3. Magic Tour (The raw power... IT BURNS!)
4. The Game Tour (Although Freddie starts to sound flat on higher notes, he can still "sing whatever damn well note he likes". However, Japan.)
5. News of the World Tour (Freddie's voice was in good shape for most of this tour, with only a few off gigs.)
6. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (They were still playing their asses off to impress everyone, and Freddie shows that attitude in the music.)
7. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie was usually in pretty good shape on this tour.)
8. A Night at the Opera Tour (Usually in okay shape.)
9. Queen Tour (From the few available recordings we have, it sounds like they were trying their hardest all the time, especially Freddie.)
10. Queen II Tour (Pretty much the same as the Queen Tour, in my opinion. However, I find most of the gigs on this tour all sound the same.)
11. Jazz Tour (Freddie's voice never reached "good" levels during this because somebody decided it was a good idea to go on tour in the same month as the Jazz recording sessions. Also, Japan.)
12. The Works Tour (Oh, Works Tour. Where should we even start? "WORKS TOUR TAKE NOTES!!!!!!!!!1111!" -YouTube top comments. Also, Japan - had the best gigs on the tour, except for Rio and early 1984.)[/QUOTE]
I've decided to revise my list as I went through and listened to some older bootlegs.
1. Magic Tour (Almost no bad gigs. Also, reply to me with what you guys think are Freddie's worst Magic gigs.)
2. Crazy Tour (He can sing whatever note he likes.)
3. The Game Tour (Only issue is Freddie's flatness on higher notes. Also, Japan.)
4. Hot Space Tour (If we were just talking about later Euro Hot Space gigs, this would be at the number 1 spot. However, a lot of people forget about America and Japan when talking about this tour, as well as those really early Euro Hot Space concerts. Voice cracks everywhere!)
5. Queen II Tour (Really good.)
6. Queen I Tour (Pretty much on par with the II Tour.)
7. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (Also good.)
8. News of the World Tour (Really pretty good. See my above descriptions.)
9. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie wasn't daring, but usually wasn't bad either.)
10. A Night at the Opera Tour (Hit and miss.)
11. Jazz Tour (BAD BAD BAD.)
12. The Works Tour (WORST WORST WORST.)[/QUOTE]
I'd say only Zurich and Marbella were the only "bad" gigs. it would be
1.Zurich
2.Marbella
3.Madrid.
The Works tour had a few good gigs like the first two and Sun City, Rock In Rio and the Japan Gigs
[b]MC_Sandman wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]MC_Sandman wrote:[/b]
My general opinion of his tours follow this order:
1. Hot Space Tour (Unparalleled soul and emotion poured out into every song. Only issue is Japan.)
2. Crazy Tour (As said above, "he can sing whatever damn well note he likes".)
3. Magic Tour (The raw power... IT BURNS!)
4. The Game Tour (Although Freddie starts to sound flat on higher notes, he can still "sing whatever damn well note he likes". However, Japan.)
5. News of the World Tour (Freddie's voice was in good shape for most of this tour, with only a few off gigs.)
6. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (They were still playing their asses off to impress everyone, and Freddie shows that attitude in the music.)
7. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie was usually in pretty good shape on this tour.)
8. A Night at the Opera Tour (Usually in okay shape.)
9. Queen Tour (From the few available recordings we have, it sounds like they were trying their hardest all the time, especially Freddie.)
10. Queen II Tour (Pretty much the same as the Queen Tour, in my opinion. However, I find most of the gigs on this tour all sound the same.)
11. Jazz Tour (Freddie's voice never reached "good" levels during this because somebody decided it was a good idea to go on tour in the same month as the Jazz recording sessions. Also, Japan.)
12. The Works Tour (Oh, Works Tour. Where should we even start? "WORKS TOUR TAKE NOTES!!!!!!!!!1111!" -YouTube top comments. Also, Japan - had the best gigs on the tour, except for Rio and early 1984.)[/QUOTE]
I've decided to revise my list as I went through and listened to some older bootlegs.
1. Magic Tour (Almost no bad gigs. Also, reply to me with what you guys think are Freddie's worst Magic gigs.)
2. Crazy Tour (He can sing whatever note he likes.)
3. The Game Tour (Only issue is Freddie's flatness on higher notes. Also, Japan.)
4. Hot Space Tour (If we were just talking about later Euro Hot Space gigs, this would be at the number 1 spot. However, a lot of people forget about America and Japan when talking about this tour, as well as those really early Euro Hot Space concerts. Voice cracks everywhere!)
5. Queen II Tour (Really good.)
6. Queen I Tour (Pretty much on par with the II Tour.)
7. Sheer Heart Attack Tour (Also good.)
8. News of the World Tour (Really pretty good. See my above descriptions.)
9. A Day at the Races Tour (Freddie wasn't daring, but usually wasn't bad either.)
10. A Night at the Opera Tour (Hit and miss.)
11. Jazz Tour (BAD BAD BAD.)
12. The Works Tour (WORST WORST WORST.)[/QUOTE]
I'd say only Zurich and Marbella were the only "bad" gigs. it would be
1.Zurich
2.Marbella
3.Madrid.
The Works tour had a few good gigs like the first two and Sun City, Rock In Rio and the Japan Gigs