I think "Surrender To The City" was just a rumour started on here a few years ago. I think someone just took the line from the end section of MOTBQ and purported it be a demo that eventually became that part.
Greg Brooks claimed that there was nothing in the archives under that name. He also said that the other rumoured demos, "Deep Ridge" and "Fly By Night" were also non-existent.
They could perhaps exist outside of the archives, like "Hangman" for example, but it is highly unlikely that so many unused tracks would exist from that period, as they were scraping at the bottom of the barrel for Queen II in terms of tracks.
Jam Monkey · Member since
Sadly there are alot of wind up merchants out there who make this stuff up just to amuse themselves.
FriedChicken · Member since
GinjaNinja wrote:
They could perhaps exist outside of the archives, like "Hangman" for example, but it is highly unlikely that so many unused tracks would exist from that period, as they were scraping at the bottom of the barrel for Queen II in terms of tracks.
There is absolutely no proof that a Hangman studio version exists. The source maybe a well respected Queen fan, but just claims that he says he has it are not good enough.
Jam Monkey · Member since
What is the world comming to when someone can't be taken at their word.
Jam Monkey · Member since
As the formatting of QZ isn't great I've uploaded a MS Word version of all the information, which is a little easier to read.
Ale_Pisa · Member since
Thank you for the docx... There's a rumor about that Why Don't We Try Again start as a Queen song from the THE MIRACLE/INNUENDO era...
Master of your Destiny · Member since
Got some notes about the following stuff:
I Was Born To Love You (1:41)... some Instrumental with strange Synths and Computer sounds. In the End some Freddie Vocals
Too Much Love Will Kill You (Duet) Brian sings a Duet with a Women... There is also a Instrumental Demo, and one with only Brian on Vocals
Keep on Running with Roger on Vocals
To Man made Paradise: Got about 5 sec. from the Queen version
I don't know if its unreleased but what about the real Intro of Thank God Its Christmas?
Master of your Destiny · Member since
I also think that theres a short Demo Extract from Delilah!
Soundfreak · Member since
I do not believe that too many interesting unreleased songs are in the archive. Cause if there were, "Made in Heaven" would not have turned out to have so many recycled songs from solo albums and b-sides. All those outtakes I have heard so far were rejected for good reasons. And the real good "left overs" were used on several solo albums. So all I really expect are some alternate takes of released songs. And there may be one or two surprises....but the dream of a "lost Queen" album in a way Springsteen fans live it these days with an album called "The Promise" made of high quality left overs from the late 70s will remain a dream....
Jam Monkey · Member since
I think you're right Soundfreak. Freddie said in an interview that although they came up with lots of ideas in in the studio he preffered to only finish the songs that ended up on the album. This is certainly demonstrated in the outtakes we do have; while there are interesting to listen to there are most just half finished ideas.
silver_salmon · Member since
Ale_Pisa wrote: Thank you for the docx... There's a rumor about that Why Don't We Try Again start as a Queen song from the THE MIRACLE/INNUENDO era...
Which is the source of this "rumor"?...a Queenfan illusion or whish? :P
Master of your Destiny · Member since
Jam Monkey wrote:
*Man Made Paradise (Queen Version) Status: In the vaults Once more the existence of this track was confirmed by Greg Brooks in Freddie Mercury: The Solo Collection.
*Man Made Paradise (Convention Recording) Status: Uncirculated/Not recorded We know from Brian’s website that this track was played at the 2001 convention. Supposedly only 50 seconds in length it has never surfaced, and we have no way of knowing of this is the most complete version of the track.
The Chorus is quite different. The line "Come into my life" is sung twice. Like this:
Come to my life, to my life...
Jam Monkey · Member since
Thanks for the information Master of your Destiny, I didn't know that!
pittrek · Member since
Master of your Destiny - thanks for the info. In the case you have the songs could you share something ? :-)
Master of your Destiny · Member since
If you are interested in these recordings of course but I have to say, that I only got 5 sec. from Man Made Paradise, but if you want I could share the other recordings that I mentioned too.
But one question...how safe is it to upload these demos? I dont want to get problems... ;-)
