We could've had Freddie ALIVE according to this....

Zebonka12 wrote: "People need to understand that this industry ,(while it may cure some stuff) is not in its interest to cure , its in its interest to kill and make profits."

Be that as it may, that wasn't what I was getting at in the first place; but I agree entirely that self-interest is more than likely to get in the way of medical progress.

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Yea but in knowing this , we should always step back and look at everything they throw at us , like for example the swine flu etc.. that was all BS.

Its very frustrating knowing that even if somebody could cure your sick grandmother or whoever, its not going to get out there in public and into practise cause of these scumbags... makes me even more angry knowing that such a wonderful humanbeing in Mercury being dead when it now seems it was possible maybe curing him!

When they say somethings impossible to cure , in the past i would've believed them , now when i hear things like that it makes me mad.

At the end of the day though, you need to channel your anger into more positive energy.  There are still many ways that you can make a difference in this world - keep searching and you will find.  There are two kinds of people - doers and complainers.  The choice is yours,  my good man.

"we should always step back and look at everything they throw at us , like for example the swine flu etc.. that was all BS."

I was always fascinated by swine flu (and SARS).  I used to feel that the medical profession started us off with a healthy level of precautions and what-not, but that the media itself was to blame for getting carried away with it.  Yeah; both diseases had the potential to kill people, but when you look at the numbers of people killed (and the people themselves) then it really wasn't a big deal in comparison with other flu viruses.  Of course it was dangerous - a guy I knew nearly got killed from swine flu - but if it really was a massive threat to humanity, I think it would've killed a lot more of us than it did in reality. 

In retrospect, when you look back, the media was responsible for more of the bullshit than anyone else.  It's fair to say a few doctors would've overreacted to the whole thing but that's their job - you don't "underreact" when your health is concerned.

What about all the new drugs and treatments for ailments that have come on the market over the last 30 years and all the millions being spent employing scientists to find cures, omg i don't want to get personal but you all need to get off the internet and start living your life.

"omg i don't want to get personal but you all need to get off the internet and start living your life."

And you found the time to write this ... how??

Sir GH wrote: At the end of the day though, you need to channel your anger into more positive energy.  There are still many ways that you can make a difference in this world - keep searching and you will find.  There are two kinds of people - doers and complainers.  The choice is yours,  my good man.
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You are 100% correct about that, this anger wont help anybody and thru changing oneself , that will make a real change to the outcome of this reality. We all have all the power in the world to change our reality , to be what we want to be , we just have to realize it.

We have to get rid of fear , hatred and stuff that feeds the ego. The ego is the root of everything bad in this world, when we understand that all is one then this world could be a better place. Now this isnt as easy as it sounds but we all must remind ourselfs everyday about it , and move one step at the time towards releasing the ego.

What they do is , they want to divide us with everything that they are feeding us in the media, stuff like ,religion, teams, you vs me, ugly vs beautiful, rich vs poor , cool vs boring etc thats why the tv is the single most "dangerous" thing in our lives. The internet is much better cause there you can choose what u want to see and not being fed to the samee extent.

In retrospect, when you look back, the media was responsible for more of the bullshit than anyone else.  It's fair to say a few doctors would've overreacted to the whole thing but that's their job - you don't "underreact" when your health is concerned.
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Exactly thats why we should always question almost everything that comes out of media, even things that would seem far fetched , never rule out anything when coming down to media.

They are masters of mind controlling so they go into very small details of stuff , stuff we never would have thought about.
We need to stop being lazy and stupid and start thinking more. There was a quote , i think it was from Hitler. Something like its when people do not think thats when they are  controllable, the biggest threat to that is people that do think.

Something like that , i dont remeber the exact quote but it was somethin to that extent.

Senna wrote: What about all the new drugs and treatments for ailments that have come on the market over the last 30 years and all the millions being spent employing scientists to find cures, omg i don't want to get personal but you all need to get off the internet and start living your life.

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Yea what about them? its all a buisness and it has not your best interest at heart. Please realize this and stop being so naive for your own sake and the people around you. You sound like a person that fall for what they tell you.

The more natural we people are , more healthier we will be. Its when we take their precautionaus advice, to take vaccines and stuff that we get these diseases.

I don't think the government would do such a thing. By the way, they were way too busy planning the World Trade Center attacks and covering up the aliens living amoung us.

Idiot.

FriedChicken wrote: I don't think the government would do such a thing. By the way, they were way too busy planning the World Trade Center attacks and covering up the aliens living amoung us.

Idiot.
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It's absolutely true that these kinds of theories tend to come in clusters with any given individual.  9/11, suppression of cures, suppression of energy technologies etc.  I don't mean to draw any negative conclusion about that in this instance, it's just interesting to note that it all kind of flows from a particular world view and a particular way of filtering and sorting information.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Be that as it may, that wasn't what I was getting at in the first place; but I agree entirely that self-interest is more than likely to get in the way of medical progress.
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Human nature in general impacts the ebb and flow of advancement in just about any discipline you can think of.   In business models like pharmaceutical companies the self interest of the bottom line must be a factor, but innovation and discovery are driven forward by the very same pressures.  In academia, peer review processes and research granting bodies propel some ideas forward and strangle others in the cradle.  It's not perfect, but it's the best we have.

Individual innovators, particularly those that are trying to work outside of conventionally accepted beliefs,  are at theoretical risk of never getting the exposure and resources they need, and of being shut out by the institutions that society looks to for the mark of credibility.  We know it's happened in the past because there are many examples of scientific theories or inventions that were first ridiculed before they became accepted and adopted.  But the general direction of humanity is forward, and I think it's realistic to assume that great strides are at worst delayed, and when they are it's quite a bit less nefarious and deliberate than government conspiracies and the like.

John Kanzius, who had now passed away, is a great example of a guy with a great unconventional idea that moved literally from his garage into multiple university research facilities in the United States.  In general, I think the good ideas will find their way almost every time.

Right, who's for tea or coffee?

Master Marathon Runner

"But the general direction of humanity is forward, and I think it's realistic to assume that great strides are at worst delayed, and when they are it's quite a bit less nefarious and deliberate than government conspiracies and the like."

I think we're damned either way.  People claim that cures for things are being suppressed, but then when vaccines are offered up for the public, crazy-ass stories get made up about them.  I, and most of my extended family, have been vaccinated for lots of things over the years, but none of us have dropped dead.  I guess now we're all carrying miniature chips in our bloodstreams now, though.

I think Jenny McCarthy's activism is more dangerous than the medical profession.