Sebastian
Maybe what 30 years ago was 'unacceptable', today is 'more royalties = I'm in'. Not to mention that a lot of Bowie fans would buy the CD just for those BV's.
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thomasquinn 32989
splicksplack wrote:
10 Cool Cat is almost jazz. I can imagine Manhattan Transfer doing a version ====
I found most of what you wrote discutable, but this one is frankly insulting. No! "Cool Cat" is nothing like jazz. Nothing like *any* kind of jazz. "Bring Back That Leroy Brown" can, with an enormous dose of good will, be interpreted as dixieland. "Cool Cat" doesn't even *resemble* any style of jazz.
10 Cool Cat is almost jazz. I can imagine Manhattan Transfer doing a version ====
I found most of what you wrote discutable, but this one is frankly insulting. No! "Cool Cat" is nothing like jazz. Nothing like *any* kind of jazz. "Bring Back That Leroy Brown" can, with an enormous dose of good will, be interpreted as dixieland. "Cool Cat" doesn't even *resemble* any style of jazz.
tcc
ThomasQuinn wrote: splicksplack wrote:
10 Cool Cat is almost jazz. I can imagine Manhattan Transfer doing a version ====
I found most of what you wrote discutable, but this one is frankly insulting. No! "Cool Cat" is nothing like jazz. Nothing like *any* kind of jazz. "Bring Back That Leroy Brown" can, with an enormous dose of good will, be interpreted as dixieland. "Cool Cat" doesn't even *resemble* any style of jazz.
Off-topic, can the song My Melancholy Blues be considered jazz ?
Soundfreak
tcc wrote:
Off-topic, can the song My Melancholy Blues be considered jazz ?
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definitely, if you play it in a nightclub in between jazz standards like "Girl from Ipanema" or "Lullaby of Birdland" it would fit perfectly. This song is more "Jazz" than anything on the "Jazz" - album....;-)
Off-topic, can the song My Melancholy Blues be considered jazz ?
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definitely, if you play it in a nightclub in between jazz standards like "Girl from Ipanema" or "Lullaby of Birdland" it would fit perfectly. This song is more "Jazz" than anything on the "Jazz" - album....;-)
splicksplack
ThomasQuinn wrote: splicksplack wrote:
10 Cool Cat is almost jazz. I can imagine Manhattan Transfer doing a version ====
I found most of what you wrote discutable, but this one is frankly insulting. No! "Cool Cat" is nothing like jazz. Nothing like *any* kind of jazz. "Bring Back That Leroy Brown" can, with an enormous dose of good will, be interpreted as dixieland. "Cool Cat" doesn't even *resemble* any style of jazz.
Most of what anyone writes on here is "discutable". It is, after all, a discussion forum.
And why is it "insulting". At worst inaccurate but "insulting"? Is that because you find jazz music somehow contemptible?
Whatever, my opinion (and I have played valve trombone in a jazz dance band) is that it does sound vaguely lounge-jazz.
How would you define it?
10 Cool Cat is almost jazz. I can imagine Manhattan Transfer doing a version ====
I found most of what you wrote discutable, but this one is frankly insulting. No! "Cool Cat" is nothing like jazz. Nothing like *any* kind of jazz. "Bring Back That Leroy Brown" can, with an enormous dose of good will, be interpreted as dixieland. "Cool Cat" doesn't even *resemble* any style of jazz.
Most of what anyone writes on here is "discutable". It is, after all, a discussion forum.
And why is it "insulting". At worst inaccurate but "insulting"? Is that because you find jazz music somehow contemptible?
Whatever, my opinion (and I have played valve trombone in a jazz dance band) is that it does sound vaguely lounge-jazz.
How would you define it?
mike hunt
Cool Cat is more Motown/funk.......Not Jazz at all..........one of the better songs on the album IMO.
splicksplack
How about Jazz-funk?
In retrospect, probably more funk than jazz. OK, maybe not jazz at all.
Now, Tie Your Mother Down. That's Jazz .;)
(sorry, been on the Jeyes fluid)
In retrospect, probably more funk than jazz. OK, maybe not jazz at all.
Now, Tie Your Mother Down. That's Jazz .;)
(sorry, been on the Jeyes fluid)
tcc
splicksplack wrote: How about Jazz-funk?
In retrospect, probably more funk than jazz. OK, maybe not jazz at all.
Now, Tie Your Mother Down. That's Jazz .;)
(sorry, been on the Jeyes fluid)
Tie Your Mother Down is rock, definitely not jazz :-D
splicksplack
I'm going to get on my computer tonight and do a mash-up of Forever Autumn by Justin Hayward, Hammer To Fall and some Cleo Laine.
PrimeJiveUSA
Cool Cat w/Bowie is soooo much better, imo. Although Bowie's contribution is minimal "bum,bum,bum's"...it just creates a totally different mood. Freddie and David were a match made in heaven. A whole album of collaborations would have been something for the AGES!
rhyeking
Even now, a new collaboration with Bowie, Brian and Roger would be pretty sweet.
bitesthedust
Like Jazz, Hot Space is an album that could have been saved by better programming. Having bought the LP, I'd imagine a lot of people were put off listening to side b having listened to side a.
As tempting as it is to place Soul Brother into the album proper, I'll stick with the 11 songs included. Something like this could have worked -
Side A
Put Out The Fire
Life Is Real
Dancer
Calling All Girls
Under Pressure
Side B
Staying Power
Back Chat
Body Language
Action This Day
Cool Cat
Las Palabras De Amor
As tempting as it is to place Soul Brother into the album proper, I'll stick with the 11 songs included. Something like this could have worked -
Side A
Put Out The Fire
Life Is Real
Dancer
Calling All Girls
Under Pressure
Side B
Staying Power
Back Chat
Body Language
Action This Day
Cool Cat
Las Palabras De Amor
PrimeJiveUSA
bitesthedust-
WOW! That really IS a stunning change in sequence. Totally changes the feel of the album...it kinda eases the fans into the disco stuff by throwing them the first bone with a hard-rocker and a ballad.
I LOVE "Staying Power" as the opener, though. To me, it's always been my favorite song on the album(as well as Under Pressure).
WOW! That really IS a stunning change in sequence. Totally changes the feel of the album...it kinda eases the fans into the disco stuff by throwing them the first bone with a hard-rocker and a ballad.
I LOVE "Staying Power" as the opener, though. To me, it's always been my favorite song on the album(as well as Under Pressure).
bitesthedust
PrimeJiveUSA wrote: bitesthedust-
WOW! That really IS a stunning change in sequence. Totally changes the feel of the album...it kinda eases the fans into the disco stuff by throwing them the first bone with a hard-rocker and a ballad.
I LOVE "Staying Power" as the opener, though. To me, it's always been my favorite song on the album(as well as Under Pressure). For the intended disco effect of the album (or at least side a) then Staying Power is the obvious opening track, agreed.
Personally, Back Chat is my favourite song on the album - after Under Pressure.
Placing Under Pressure as the closing track always makes it feel like a bonus track, in my opinion.
WOW! That really IS a stunning change in sequence. Totally changes the feel of the album...it kinda eases the fans into the disco stuff by throwing them the first bone with a hard-rocker and a ballad.
I LOVE "Staying Power" as the opener, though. To me, it's always been my favorite song on the album(as well as Under Pressure). For the intended disco effect of the album (or at least side a) then Staying Power is the obvious opening track, agreed.
Personally, Back Chat is my favourite song on the album - after Under Pressure.
Placing Under Pressure as the closing track always makes it feel like a bonus track, in my opinion.
PrimeJiveUSA
Well, here in the U.S. "Under Pressure" was kind of a " bonus track". It had already been featured on the Greatest Hits album just 6 months before.
"Back Chat" is really good ,too. Body Language is awesome, as well!
But , personally, "Staying Power" is one of my all-time favorite songs. I'd rank it up there with "Don't Stop Me Now" as far Queen's best fun, upbeat songs.
And I'm talking about the STUDIO version. Everybody seems to say they dislike the studio version but LOVE the live version. Not me. The live version doesn't hold a candle to the studio version.
But that's the way it is with almost all of Queen's songs, imo.
"Back Chat" is really good ,too. Body Language is awesome, as well!
But , personally, "Staying Power" is one of my all-time favorite songs. I'd rank it up there with "Don't Stop Me Now" as far Queen's best fun, upbeat songs.
And I'm talking about the STUDIO version. Everybody seems to say they dislike the studio version but LOVE the live version. Not me. The live version doesn't hold a candle to the studio version.
But that's the way it is with almost all of Queen's songs, imo.