Mate.. don´t forget that Page gave his soul to Satan..
That´s also why he´s so incredible.
Brian can´t do that! he is scared of darkness!
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GratefulFan
*goodco* wrote:
You Can Tune A Piano ....but You Can't Tunafish
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If anybody ever tells you about any teenaged acid trips of mine, they're lying. Didn't happen. But if they had happened, and if they had YouTube back then, I would have had this video on 6 hour loop. WHO is that man and WHY is he *doing that*?
P.S. You forgot Breakfast in America
P.P.S. Alice Cooper is coming to my city, and I'm not going. I feel like I should feel bad, but I don't.
Holly2003
jazzy mercurois wrote: OH BUT I suppose then... Queen didn't know fantasy existed before led zeppelin!
BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WERE AN INFLUENCE!
SO IT'S OBVIOUS THAT EVERYTHING THEY DID, THEY TOOK FROM ZEPPELIN!
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What was that you were saying about coherence and hyperbole? lol
BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WERE AN INFLUENCE!
SO IT'S OBVIOUS THAT EVERYTHING THEY DID, THEY TOOK FROM ZEPPELIN!
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What was that you were saying about coherence and hyperbole? lol
GratefulFan
mike hunt wrote:
......what narks me as a music fan is when people put bands like ACDC, who play the same riffs and never tried anything new in their entire career in the same league as Queen. How is that?....a true artist explores new sounds. ACDC=boring Not in the same league as The Who, Zeppelin, Queen. Even ELO were better, lol. At least they tried new sounds.
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Funnily enough, I recently watched/heard/read (can't remember) an interview with Brian in which he was asked the question "If you weren't in Queen, which band would you have wanted to be in?". His reply was 'AC/DC or something like that', precisely because they were just one thing and the direction was always clear. It seemed to be another acknowledgement of difficult and painful creative differences behind the scenes that we've heard a fair bit about in recent interviews.
In trying to find the above quote, I rewatched a 2010 interview in which BM cited The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix as their 'bible' and main influences. But I certainly think a good deal of the early work recalls Led Zeppelin, if only by osmosis. Queen and Queen II are for the most part very much albums of their time in a way that the other albums of the 1970's are not, and Zeppelin were among the dominant artists of the period. They're wonderful albums, but as a whole they are not timeless in the way that so much of the later music would be. With a couple of notable exceptions, the 'Queen sound' that was firmly established over the next two albums was still over the horizon at that point.
......what narks me as a music fan is when people put bands like ACDC, who play the same riffs and never tried anything new in their entire career in the same league as Queen. How is that?....a true artist explores new sounds. ACDC=boring Not in the same league as The Who, Zeppelin, Queen. Even ELO were better, lol. At least they tried new sounds.
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Funnily enough, I recently watched/heard/read (can't remember) an interview with Brian in which he was asked the question "If you weren't in Queen, which band would you have wanted to be in?". His reply was 'AC/DC or something like that', precisely because they were just one thing and the direction was always clear. It seemed to be another acknowledgement of difficult and painful creative differences behind the scenes that we've heard a fair bit about in recent interviews.
In trying to find the above quote, I rewatched a 2010 interview in which BM cited The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix as their 'bible' and main influences. But I certainly think a good deal of the early work recalls Led Zeppelin, if only by osmosis. Queen and Queen II are for the most part very much albums of their time in a way that the other albums of the 1970's are not, and Zeppelin were among the dominant artists of the period. They're wonderful albums, but as a whole they are not timeless in the way that so much of the later music would be. With a couple of notable exceptions, the 'Queen sound' that was firmly established over the next two albums was still over the horizon at that point.
Matias Merçeauroix
Holly2003 wrote: jazzy mercurois wrote: OH BUT I suppose then... Queen didn't know fantasy existed before led zeppelin!
BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WERE AN INFLUENCE!
SO IT'S OBVIOUS THAT EVERYTHING THEY DID, THEY TOOK FROM ZEPPELIN!
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What was that you were saying about coherence and hyperbole? lol ------------------------------
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXmKPMaHMo
BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY WERE AN INFLUENCE!
SO IT'S OBVIOUS THAT EVERYTHING THEY DID, THEY TOOK FROM ZEPPELIN!
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What was that you were saying about coherence and hyperbole? lol ------------------------------
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXmKPMaHMo
Amazon
jazzy mercurois wrote: "Really?
Which one?
Let's remember that Smile was formed in 1968, and in February 1969, Smile was already playing their songs in not so small venues.
Led Zeppelin I was released on January 12th.
Unless they wrote, arranged, learned and perfectly rehearsed their songs in less than one month, I don't see how Doing All Right was inspired by Led Zeppelin."
Good point. Yeh, Doing All Right obviously wasn't inspired by Zeppelin, however IMO it sounds exactly like a Zeppelin song. Perhaps Zeppelin were inspired by Smile? :D
When I listen to Doing All Right, the first thing that comes to mind is Zeppelin. It's like You Don't Fool Me; that makes me think of Billie Jean.
Which one?
Let's remember that Smile was formed in 1968, and in February 1969, Smile was already playing their songs in not so small venues.
Led Zeppelin I was released on January 12th.
Unless they wrote, arranged, learned and perfectly rehearsed their songs in less than one month, I don't see how Doing All Right was inspired by Led Zeppelin."
Good point. Yeh, Doing All Right obviously wasn't inspired by Zeppelin, however IMO it sounds exactly like a Zeppelin song. Perhaps Zeppelin were inspired by Smile? :D
When I listen to Doing All Right, the first thing that comes to mind is Zeppelin. It's like You Don't Fool Me; that makes me think of Billie Jean.
GratefulFan
Amazon wrote:
Good point. Yeh, Doing All Right obviously wasn't inspired by Zeppelin, however IMO it sounds exactly like a Zeppelin song. Perhaps Zeppelin were inspired by Smile? :D
When I listen to Doing All Right, the first thing that comes to mind is Zeppelin. It's like You Don't Fool Me; that makes me think of Billie Jean.
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The early similarities can likely at least in part be chalked up to the shared influence of the musical Zeitgeist. A lot of the early Queen stuff sounded Zeppelin-y and Uriah Heep-y etc.
Good point. Yeh, Doing All Right obviously wasn't inspired by Zeppelin, however IMO it sounds exactly like a Zeppelin song. Perhaps Zeppelin were inspired by Smile? :D
When I listen to Doing All Right, the first thing that comes to mind is Zeppelin. It's like You Don't Fool Me; that makes me think of Billie Jean.
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The early similarities can likely at least in part be chalked up to the shared influence of the musical Zeitgeist. A lot of the early Queen stuff sounded Zeppelin-y and Uriah Heep-y etc.
Holly2003
jazzy mercurois wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXmKPMaHMo
Ha! Queen, Simpsons, ELO ... Holy Shred! I think I'm starting to like you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggXmKPMaHMo
Ha! Queen, Simpsons, ELO ... Holy Shred! I think I'm starting to like you.
mike hunt
GratefulFan wrote: mike hunt wrote:
......what narks me as a music fan is when people put bands like ACDC, who play the same riffs and never tried anything new in their entire career in the same league as Queen. How is that?....a true artist explores new sounds. ACDC=boring Not in the same league as The Who, Zeppelin, Queen. Even ELO were better, lol. At least they tried new sounds.
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Funnily enough, I recently watched/heard/read (can't remember) an interview with Brian in which he was asked the question "If you weren't in Queen, which band would you have wanted to be in?". His reply was 'AC/DC or something like that', precisely because they were just one thing and the direction was always clear. It seemed to be another acknowledgement of difficult and painful creative differences behind the scenes that we've heard a fair bit about in recent interviews.
In trying to find the above quote, I rewatched a 2010 interview in which BM cited The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix as their 'bible' and main influences. But I certainly think a good deal of the early work recalls Led Zeppelin, if only by osmosis. Queen and Queen II are for the most part very much albums of their time in a way that the other albums of the 1970's are not, and Zeppelin were among the dominant artists of the period. They're wonderful albums, but as a whole they are not timeless in the way that so much of the later music would be. With a couple of notable exceptions, the 'Queen sound' that was firmly established over the next two albums was still over the horizon at that point.
Trust me on this...If brian was in ACDC he would have gone mad. Freddie was the most experimental of the band by far (that's a fact) but brian also liked to try different sounds. Tie Your Mother Down vs Good Company. Most of his favorite queen songs were freddie's stuff. Love of my life, ECT. Of course they disagreed a lot, and i'm also sure he hated some of freddie's musical directions (body language) but overall one style of music wasn't enough for him. His own songs tell us that. The only thing he could have done in ACDC was show off is licks more, but after 2 or 3 albums he leaves that band.
......what narks me as a music fan is when people put bands like ACDC, who play the same riffs and never tried anything new in their entire career in the same league as Queen. How is that?....a true artist explores new sounds. ACDC=boring Not in the same league as The Who, Zeppelin, Queen. Even ELO were better, lol. At least they tried new sounds.
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Funnily enough, I recently watched/heard/read (can't remember) an interview with Brian in which he was asked the question "If you weren't in Queen, which band would you have wanted to be in?". His reply was 'AC/DC or something like that', precisely because they were just one thing and the direction was always clear. It seemed to be another acknowledgement of difficult and painful creative differences behind the scenes that we've heard a fair bit about in recent interviews.
In trying to find the above quote, I rewatched a 2010 interview in which BM cited The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix as their 'bible' and main influences. But I certainly think a good deal of the early work recalls Led Zeppelin, if only by osmosis. Queen and Queen II are for the most part very much albums of their time in a way that the other albums of the 1970's are not, and Zeppelin were among the dominant artists of the period. They're wonderful albums, but as a whole they are not timeless in the way that so much of the later music would be. With a couple of notable exceptions, the 'Queen sound' that was firmly established over the next two albums was still over the horizon at that point.
Trust me on this...If brian was in ACDC he would have gone mad. Freddie was the most experimental of the band by far (that's a fact) but brian also liked to try different sounds. Tie Your Mother Down vs Good Company. Most of his favorite queen songs were freddie's stuff. Love of my life, ECT. Of course they disagreed a lot, and i'm also sure he hated some of freddie's musical directions (body language) but overall one style of music wasn't enough for him. His own songs tell us that. The only thing he could have done in ACDC was show off is licks more, but after 2 or 3 albums he leaves that band.
Sebastian
> The early similarities can likely at least in part be chalked up to the shared influence of the musical Zeitgeist. A lot of the early Queen stuff sounded Zeppelin-y and Uriah Heep-y etc.
Very true. My brother looks very similar to me (almost identical, only taller and brunet), but it doesn't mean I created him. It simply means we had the same parents.
Same case: if DAR sounds Zeppelin-esque, it doesn't necessarily mean it was inspired by them. Maybe DAR and some Zeppelin tunes shared the same influental background.
Very true. My brother looks very similar to me (almost identical, only taller and brunet), but it doesn't mean I created him. It simply means we had the same parents.
Same case: if DAR sounds Zeppelin-esque, it doesn't necessarily mean it was inspired by them. Maybe DAR and some Zeppelin tunes shared the same influental background.
The Real Wizard
jazzy mercurois wrote:
If you pay just a little attention, you'll see that Page's always attempted to play fast licks and failed at it. Over and over again. For more than 50 years.
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I still think you're a bit too hard on Page. Listen to the soundboard recording of Zeppelin in Vienna 73 and tell me Page wasn't a great player in his prime. Europe 73 completely changed my perception of Zeppelin... for about 10 concerts in March/April 73 they were at the absolute peak of their powers. Plant's voice was a bit weak, but the instrumental machine was a force to be reckoned with.
Listen from 5 minutes onward, particularly the interplay with Bonham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNKP3h1aknU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrY2XMgz8VQ
I agree, the Heartbreaker solo on LZ II is sloppy in places, but there's so much more than the cleanliness of his playing that counts. Zeppelin were expressing blues in a way they hadn't been expressed before. LZ II is basically what launched them into being the biggest band of the 1970s.
But there are plenty of live versions of Heartbreaker where he nails it... 70-73 is Page's peak.
If you pay just a little attention, you'll see that Page's always attempted to play fast licks and failed at it. Over and over again. For more than 50 years.
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I still think you're a bit too hard on Page. Listen to the soundboard recording of Zeppelin in Vienna 73 and tell me Page wasn't a great player in his prime. Europe 73 completely changed my perception of Zeppelin... for about 10 concerts in March/April 73 they were at the absolute peak of their powers. Plant's voice was a bit weak, but the instrumental machine was a force to be reckoned with.
Listen from 5 minutes onward, particularly the interplay with Bonham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNKP3h1aknU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrY2XMgz8VQ
I agree, the Heartbreaker solo on LZ II is sloppy in places, but there's so much more than the cleanliness of his playing that counts. Zeppelin were expressing blues in a way they hadn't been expressed before. LZ II is basically what launched them into being the biggest band of the 1970s.
But there are plenty of live versions of Heartbreaker where he nails it... 70-73 is Page's peak.
The Real Wizard
jazzy mercurois wrote:
Standin' in the Rain?
Big Wheels?
Believe Me Now?
Ticket To The Moon?
Poker?
Night Rider?
Eldorado?
Poor Boy?
Dreaming of 4000?
Mission?
Shangri-La?
Above the Clouds?
Really? Nobody listened to this?
Incredible tunes. Worth every second.
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I haven't heard of most of these. Can you elaborate on them? At least list the artists so I can look them up?
Standin' in the Rain?
Big Wheels?
Believe Me Now?
Ticket To The Moon?
Poker?
Night Rider?
Eldorado?
Poor Boy?
Dreaming of 4000?
Mission?
Shangri-La?
Above the Clouds?
Really? Nobody listened to this?
Incredible tunes. Worth every second.
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I haven't heard of most of these. Can you elaborate on them? At least list the artists so I can look them up?
Jimmy Dean
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Sir GH wrote: jazzy mercurois wrote:
Standin' in the Rain?
Big Wheels?
Believe Me Now?
Ticket To The Moon?
Poker?
Night Rider?
Eldorado?
Poor Boy?
Dreaming of 4000?
Mission?
Shangri-La?
Above the Clouds?
Really? Nobody listened to this?
Incredible tunes. Worth every second.
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I haven't heard of most of these. Can you elaborate on them? At least list the artists so I can look them up?
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From what I gather from Jizzy Cuminmypants - these are all songs by the SECOND GREATEST ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME... ELO - for the many who may never of heard of the acronym of the SECOND GREATEST ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME - it stood for "Electric Light Orchestra".
Sir GH wrote: jazzy mercurois wrote:
Standin' in the Rain?
Big Wheels?
Believe Me Now?
Ticket To The Moon?
Poker?
Night Rider?
Eldorado?
Poor Boy?
Dreaming of 4000?
Mission?
Shangri-La?
Above the Clouds?
Really? Nobody listened to this?
Incredible tunes. Worth every second.
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I haven't heard of most of these. Can you elaborate on them? At least list the artists so I can look them up?
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From what I gather from Jizzy Cuminmypants - these are all songs by the SECOND GREATEST ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME... ELO - for the many who may never of heard of the acronym of the SECOND GREATEST ROCK BAND OF ALL TIME - it stood for "Electric Light Orchestra".
The Real Wizard
I do know ELO, but mainly the hits... haven't dug deep into the records. Methinks I should change that..
mike hunt
In all honesty ELO were a good band, but they're not the second greatest band ever. you could like them the best. My second favorite band is Judas Priest, but i don't claim their better than The beatles or Zeppelin. I know their place in history.