Good breakdown Rhyeking - however, I'd keep the Hot Space demos in their own category again - they are studio work in progress, IE rough mixes of the album versions made for reference before completion of the masters, including unfinished instrumentation and perhaps guide vocals. Interestingly, Bowie's Scary Monsters from the same era has also appeared in this form. The Miracle / Innuendo demos are a result of the same process too.
Adam Baboolal · Member since
It's quite frightening that there are people who can't hear the difference between the HD and original album versions of Teo. I'm actually really shocked! The so-called "HD" mix was a complete remix. In fact, Cmsdrums, it's not a case of taking it apart, cleaning it and then putting everything back together to have a "HD remaster". Not quite.
It's very different from what people realise or what some may believe. When a track is mixed, the sound of the mixing desk comes through in itself. That's why there are now a fair few audio plugins which add famous desks to computer based mixing. I recently invested in one. Also, the other side which most people don't know about are hardware processors (compressers/reverbs/EQ) used in that studio to mix the album. Again, these too, can also add their own particular sound to a mixed track.
So, when they (Queen and co) had it remixed, again, there was a set of equipment/software used to remix the track. Add into this the tapes transferred to digital from a particular tape machine, and you can appreciate, that that too will have added to the overall sound. And of course, this doesn't even get into the modern day mastering techniques that goe on, either!
As you may (or not!) understand from those above details, this is why the HD mix of Teo Torriate truly is a brand new mix of the song. Calling it a "HD remaster" is simply doing it a great injustice. :P
Adam.
inu-liger · Member since
Sadly Adam, some people are just not capable of deeply in-depth thought processes, so it's hard for them to appreciate the intricate details and differences. I don't mean this as a slight or an insult to anyone, this is what I've found with a lot of people both online and IRL. Very frustrating for me, especially since very likely due to my Asperger's I always think a lot, and am very detail obsessed!
Rick · Member since
Every Queen song should get a HD mix :)
inu-liger · Member since
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Rick wrote: [/QUOTENAME] Every Queen song should get a HD mix :) [/QUOTE] One problem with your wish is the issue of the missing multitrack tapes for certain songs...
Rick · Member since
inu-liger wrote:
Rick wrote: Every Queen song should get a HD mix :) One problem with your wish is the issue of the missing multitrack tapes for certain songs... =====
Really? What songs?
dysan · Member since
Some of the Hollywood Records bonus tracks could fall under the HD remix flag - not the terrible dance mixes, but those which took another look at the mastertapes and simply tweaked them - Liar & In Love With My Car for example. Well worthy of inclusion.
GinjaNinja · Member since
Probably not too many, it was 10 at the last count (in about 2003).
I think the list included Spread Your Wings, Sheer Heart Attack, Sleeping On The Sidewalk and All Dead All Dead.
Rick · Member since
Sheer Heart Attack too? A shame, cause that one needs an update concerning drums. You can hardly hear the snare.
GinjaNinja · Member since
They might well have found some of them by now. Hopefully they'll at least have alternate takes a la "Coming Soon" on The Game DVD-A.
Rick · Member since
GinjaNinja wrote: They might well have found some of them by now. Hopefully they'll at least have alternate takes a la "Coming Soon" on The Game DVD-A. =====
Yeah, that was a great find.
dysan · Member since
I had to read that twice when I first found that out. One of my favorite songs and really struggled to locate a rip of the DVDA a few years ago. A shame that version isn't on the Deluxe.
GinjaNinja · Member since
Rick wrote: GinjaNinja wrote: They might well have found some of them by now. Hopefully they'll at least have alternate takes a la "Coming Soon" on The Game DVD-A. =====
Yeah, that what a great find. Well, it's hardly a great loss that they don't have the original is it? :D Having 10 "Coming Soon"s with missing multitracks would be better than missing MOTBQ for instance.
Vali · Member since
GinjaNinja wrote: Rick wrote: GinjaNinja wrote: They might well have found some of them by now. Hopefully they'll at least have alternate takes a la "Coming Soon" on The Game DVD-A. =====
Yeah, that what a great find. Well, it's hardly a great loss that they don't have the original is it? :D Having 10 "Coming Soon"s with missing multitracks would be better than missing MOTBQ for instance.
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that´d be tragic !!!! :0
oh, and regarding the alternate "Coming Soon" from the DVD-A, as said some posts above, I was really expecting it to be included in the new The Game bonus EP :(
bootLuca · Member since
Vali wrote: oh, and regarding the alternate "Coming Soon" from the DVD-A, as said some posts above, I was really expecting it to be included in the new The Game bonus EP :(
So QP have found the lost tape of coming soon and have done the 2011 remaster from this original tape?
