De Lane Lea demo's...'In The Beginning' vs '2011 remaster'

Just wondering what the findings are for these 2...

Is the claim accurate that the 'Queen' (Queen 1) re-release is a clearer source or are they simply trying to fool us by cleaning up the 'ITB' bootleg ?

I know it's been discussed in other threads but I'm curious if it could be summarized in this thread.

Thanks!

If official recordings in better quality, is there sense to remove bootleg recordings in worse quality?

The main difference is the correct speed.
The Bootleg played 2% too fast, this has been corrected. The official version also has a slightly longer intro of "Keep yourself alive", which indicates, that the bootleg is not the source for this version. The remaster uses different methods of noise reduction, which lead to some amazing results in places especially without cymbals, but there are also some moments, where the different and lesser noise reduction of the bootleg works nice.

All in all the remaster wins - especially for the fact, that it plays at the correct speed.

I've only listened to the 2011 release of KYA in its entirety so far, only snippets of the others, but I'm pretty confident that I'll be binning ITB and buying the remaster (once the price comes down a bit).

The crackle noise at the beginning is ridiculous (but easily removed), otherwise I'd say this is 60% better than ITB.

There is a topic overhere discussing the quality of in the beginning.

If I remember correct. In the begging bootleg was made by dutch collector. He got the acetate or an tape taken from this acetate from JSS. If it is a tape it is in worse quality to the official one.

Though I haven't compared it yet I am quite sure the official product sounds a lot bette. The sound on IN THE BEGIN... is muffled , incorrect speed (cassette tape issues ?) and has quite a lot of hiss on it.

Please search for the specific topic I'd mentioned above. I'm quite sure MIKO records did not used the acetate for the CD.

Besides this , th bootleg was made in the mid 90's using unproffessional equipment.... So I do really prefer the official release.

The crackling noise is obviously intentional; to indicate the source of the songs (Brian's acetate). I like it. Nostalgic in a way.

I feel the crackles on the recordings make it sound "cheap" as if QPL don't care about quality enough to clean it up!
3 non-Queen fan friends of mine who were actually interested enough to want to borrow the remasters, said exactly the same thing!

And in contrast to what was shared here via John S. Stuart?

I don't remember JSS uploading anything of the De Lane Lea demos? I'd search, but the search function on this forum doesn't seem to work.

Benn wrote: And in contrast to what was shared here via John S. Stuart?

Reply: It was never shared.

No indeed JSS Lane Lea were neven uploaded here.

But it was JSS which sold a tape from his acetate to a dutch fan. Which made a cd out of it. Named In the Beginning. That cd was uploaded here. So there was no direct upload from JSS but a indirect upload.

Didn't JSS claim he sold a safety copy reel to the Dutch collector (whilst retaining what he says is a master), not a tape transfer of the acetate?

OK it's time to clarify something.
I was supposed to upload John's version of the De Lane Lea demo tape. This never happened. The reason is very simple - in the time I got it it was officially announced that they'll be released OFFICIALLY. I have spoken with YourValentine about the share and she asked me NOT to upload it and I fully agree. It's an official release now.
JSS version sounds in some aspects better, and in some aspects worse. The better thing is that it's not so fucking loud ! I really don't understand why the new "remasters" are so loud :-( The bad thing is that it has more hiss than the official release, but (almost) no "scratches" . The official release has better "stereo separation" (sorry I can't describe it better), John's version has better sounding drums, etc. etc.

The old bootleg "In The Beginning" is a couple of generations worse than John's acetate

Well, that's certainly interesting. As I'm sure he specifically referred to having a master tape - but in reality this "master tape" was merely a tape transfer of an acetate, and a bit like recording something off the radio onto cassette and referring to that as a master tape?

Rick wrote:

The crackling noise is obviously intentional; to indicate the source of the songs (Brian's acetate). I like it. Nostalgic in a way.

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That's exactly what I thought.