Are Queen One of the Greatest Music Artists of all time?

jamster1111 wrote: I agree with everything you said except for the fact that you put Michael Jackson number 3. He should hardly even be in the top 50 artists of all time. He is VERY overrated and ever since he died people have been over reacting about his music. IT WASN'T THAT GOOD.

Michael Jackson is highly rated because of his success. Thriller is the BEST selling album ever. Michael was also an amazing dancer, good vocalist, song writer and he wrote music for good causes such as Man in the Mirror, Earth Song and Heal the World. He was global senstation and he had talent so there is no denying that he was one of the greatest pop stars ever.

Queen is it for me.  Sure I've liked other music, been to see RUSH, MJ etc. had them all on my IPOD  - but Queen is my SOUL, why else would I fly to London for the Queen exhibition for all of 1 day.  Take THAT ... VH1 poll.  VH1 is an arm of the American music scene so the results are biased and therefore misleading and meaningless. Imagine the same type of poll conducted by Top of the Pops (which, by the way, recently re-surfaced on BBC).

Thistleboy 1980 wrote: No.  They are not one of the greatest artists of all time.  They are THE greatest band of all time.
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There is no such thing as 'THE greatest band of all time'. Just what you percieve as such.

jamster1111 wrote: I agree with everything you said except for the fact that you put Michael Jackson number 3. He should hardly even be in the top 50 artists of all time. He is VERY overrated and ever since he died people have been over reacting about his music. IT WASN'T THAT GOOD.

I agree with you about Michael's music.......but he was groundbreaking for his dancing and especially his video's.  whenever he came out with a new video it was an event.  Even if you didn't like him you have to admit his video's and dance moves were legendary.   I still don't like his music though.

Grateful Fan wrote:

'Me and my friends couldn't name a Rush song'  is a different statement than 'people in Europe couldn't name a Rush song'. As for Germany, they're playing a 13,000+ capacity venue in Frankfurt in May.  They just received some kind of lifetime achievement award from some UK rock magazine late in 2010.  Their #4 position is just in that poster's personal list, which is clearly always going to be a subjective exercise.  That said, I could virtually guarantee there are literally millions of people that would rate Rush in their personal top 10. The VH1 list puts them at 75.
And Rush who have never stopped touring outside a few years due to personal tragedy are hardly a reasonable comparison to a Led Zeppelin one off decades after they broke up.

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If I read the topic correctly this is about "The Greatest Music Artists of all T I M E"  - it's not about personal Top 10s.

And all I said is, that you can't vote them, it's T I M E that will tell what will be remembered and what will be forgotten. 

I have nothing against Rush at all. But a band like Led Zeppelin, that even gets millions of ticket orders although they do not exist for 30 years is closer to fullfill the "timeless interest" of people than any active band, that has a huge but specialized audience. 
Go and see a Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits) concert and you see mainly one generation of people sitting there. Go to see Queen or Rolling Stones shows and you find a completely mixed audience of all generations possible. That doesn't say that Knopflers music is bad at all, but probably it's less timeless than the other two.

Soundfreak wrote: Grateful Fan wrote:

'Me and my friends couldn't name a Rush song'  is a different statement than 'people in Europe couldn't name a Rush song'. As for Germany, they're playing a 13,000+ capacity venue in Frankfurt in May.  They just received some kind of lifetime achievement award from some UK rock magazine late in 2010.  Their #4 position is just in that poster's personal list, which is clearly always going to be a subjective exercise.  That said, I could virtually guarantee there are literally millions of people that would rate Rush in their personal top 10. The VH1 list puts them at 75.
And Rush who have never stopped touring outside a few years due to personal tragedy are hardly a reasonable comparison to a Led Zeppelin one off decades after they broke up.

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If I read the topic correctly this is about "The Greatest Music Artists of all T I M E"  - it's not about personal Top 10s.

And all I said is, that you can't vote them, it's T I M E that will tell what will be remembered and what will be forgotten. 

I have nothing against Rush at all. But a band like Led Zeppelin, that even gets millions of ticket orders although they do not exist for 30 years is closer to fullfill the "timeless interest" of people than any active band, that has a huge but specialized audience. 
Go and see a Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits) concert and you see mainly one generation of people sitting there. Go to see Queen or Rolling Stones shows and you find a completely mixed audience of all generations possible. That doesn't say that Knopflers music is bad at all, but probably it's less timeless than the other two.

 Worldwide Queen are above Rush, but In America Rush beats Queen.  Rush sellout every show they play, and the audience is mixed, kids, middle age and even some old people thrown in for good measure.  Queen on the other hand sold average on their last tour in 1982.  The Paul Rodger's tour sold good worldwide, but again, in America they played a few shows and couldn't even sell out even one of them.  The show I was at was 3/4 full.  I know there was no freddie mercury,  but in the 80's freddie was around and no one cared.  rush would sell out stadiums in the 70's to the present with no problem.  Even saying all that The original Queen music has become timeless and if freddie was alive I think they would sell out every show,  but we'll never know for sure if they would have made a comeback in the States.

I would be inclined to say that artistically, A Day At The Races was superior to A Night At The Opera. The greatest divergence between quality and commercial succes would, IMHO, be A Kind Of Magic, which was far more succesful than it deserved to be.

1) Beatles
2) Queen
3) Pink Floyd
4) Michael Jackson
6) Elvis
7) U2
8) ABBA
9) Led Zeppelin
10) Metallica

YannickJoker wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: No.  They are not one of the greatest artists of all time.  They are THE greatest band of all time.
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Yes, and my answer to the question is that Queen are!

Thistleboy 1980 wrote: YannickJoker wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: No.  They are not one of the greatest artists of all time.  They are THE greatest band of all time.
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There is no such thing as 'THE greatest band of all time'. Just what you percieve as such. =============================================================================================

Yes, and my answer to the question is that Queen are!

.'I' before the ' e' except after 'c'

Master Marathon Runner

master marathon runner wrote:

.'I' before the ' e' except after 'c'

Master Marathon Runner
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Ah, thank you! I'm not English.

Soundfreak wrote:

If I read the topic correctly this is about "The Greatest Music Artists of all T I M E"  - it's not about personal Top 10s.

And all I said is, that you can't vote them, it's T I M E that will tell what will be remembered and what will be forgotten. 

I have nothing against Rush at all. But a band like Led Zeppelin, that even gets millions of ticket orders although they do not exist for 30 years is closer to fullfill the "timeless interest" of people than any active band, that has a huge but specialized audience. 
Go and see a Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits) concert and you see mainly one generation of people sitting there. Go to see Queen or Rolling Stones shows and you find a completely mixed audience of all generations possible. That doesn't say that Knopflers music is bad at all, but probably it's less timeless than the other two.
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I truly don't mean to come across as rude or disrespectful, but every time you post on this thread you reveal more about how little you know about a band you're trying to say a fair bit about.  Rush absolutely is a 'generations' band and their fans are no more 'specialized' than the fans of anybody else.   Rush has been around for 40 flippin' years which is plenty of T I M E for them to have earned the massive and sustained respect they have.   Personal tastes notwithstanding, there is nothing crazy about anybody who wants to put them in a loose group of elites with the likes of Zeppelin, whether you can personally name any of their songs or not.  (And on that note I'd be willing to bet you know several of their songs, you just don't know you do)

scollins wrote: im from glasgow iand i know who RUSH are, we went to see them at bluesfest in ONTARIO CANADA last year at there new tour and they were great also there playing may this year in glasgow :) ============================= Sir/Ma'am, please step out of the car. What is your connection with ONTARIO CANADA?  AND WHY IS YOUR FLAG TOUCHING MY FLAG?!! STOP IT!!! ;) I have nice, uncompressed raw footage of some of that Ottawa Bluesfest gig because a coworker went and brought some back for me. I was at the Quebec City show a few days later. I noticed the reference to Trailer Park Boys in your profile.  You might enjoy this version of Closer to the Heart, which features Bubbles (and Ed Robertson of the Barenaked Ladies).  I love it as it completely reeks of extreme Canadian-ness.

GratefulFan wrote: scollins wrote: im from glasgow iand i know who RUSH are, we went to see them at bluesfest in ONTARIO CANADA last year at there new tour and they were great also there playing may this year in glasgow :)
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Sir/Ma'am, please step out of the car.

What is your connection with ONTARIO CANADA?  AND WHY IS YOUR FLAG TOUCHING MY FLAG?!! STOP IT!!!

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I have nice, uncompressed raw footage of some of that Ottawa Bluesfest gig because a coworker went and brought some back for me. I was at the Quebec City show a few days later.

I noticed the reference to Trailer Park Boys in your profile.  You might enjoy this version of Closer to the Heart, which features Bubbles (and Ed Robertson of the Barenaked Ladies).  I love it as it completely reeks of extreme Canadian-ness.

Good video and version of that song. Strangely enough, I thought Neil Peart made a few mistakes there!

Grateful Fan wrote:
I truly don't mean to come across as rude or disrespectful, but every time you post on this thread you reveal more about how little you know about a band you're trying to say a fair bit about.

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While you refuse to understand that I'm not saying anything about "Rush" or their quality. But in Europe and especially Germany they are no "big thing" - never ever had single or an album in the charts.
I also would not expect to find german bands like "BAP" or "Die Toten Hosen" or "Pur" in a list of the "Greatest artists of all TIME". They are also around for decades and outsell many international acts, some are even successfull outside of Germany....   

We cannot name or vote the "Greatest artists of all TIME", neither you nor me. It's time that will tell what music the world will remember. And so it's pointless to debate, whether Queen are among them or not. That's all I say. All that matters is whether you like them.