Probably this is a topic for the older fans from the days, when there was no internet.
The question is, what was your first vinyl bootleg and where did you find it ?
I was first aware that there must be more than the regular albums in the early 80s, when I was at the home of some guy who had a large album collection. And he showed me "Sheetkeeckers". I was surprised and curious. He played it for me and the sentence "What do you think of the show so far" in the break of "Ogre Battle" really impressed me. He promised me a tape copy but it never happened. So it was years later when a friend of mine surprised me at my birthday party with two vinyl albums "Cardiac Arrest" and "Falklands are rocking". They were horrible soundwise...but great to have. He never told me, where he got them...but soon I found some sources at flea markets and record fairs. The best boots I found were "Halfpence" and "Freddies boys at the Beeb" - and one day I finally got my copy of "Sheetkeeckers" for a reasonable price......those were the days....;-)
jamster1111 · Member since
My first Queen bootleg was Live in Newcastle 1979, and it wad from 12/4/1979 as you can probably guess.
I got it a few years ago after hearing how great Freddie sounded performed BoRhap....and I actually bought it off a website and it came in the mail with a fancy design and CD case that looked like an official release. Great memories.
pogor1 · Member since
Ha , I obtained my first Queen boot in1993-4 i think. It was Italian pressed cassete 'We Will Rock You' It was the collection of tracks from various locations,some from official Live Killers ,some from hammersmith '75, But i really was impressed by tracks from bbc session 1977,what a great energy record!Funny thing is audience clapping between these songs just like it was also recorded during concert
rhyeking · Member since
Soundfreak, here's my transfer of "Sheetkeeckers" from the LP to Youtube. Hope it brings back memories if you don't already own it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNTMeBq9Mfs
As to my first live Queen bootleg, it was at a record store at Yonge & Eglington in Toronto. I don't remember the name of the store and it's sadly not there anymore. It was "Eve Of Christmas," the 1975 Hammersmith Odeon concert. Ever since, I play it every Christmas Eve.
The second was "Queen Reigns The World," the Mannheim, Germany '86 concert, bought at a little record store a few doors north of the ChumCity building, on John St. I don't remember the name of that store, either, and i think it's since closed, too.
Edmund · Member since
Brilliant - Sheetkeeckers - my first one bootleg also. Still got it on vinyl - will play it later.
Thanks for great memories.
kosimodo · Member since
on Cassette: Hammersmith 75
on LP: Geisha Boys Tokyo 76
on CD: Tokyo 86
The Real Wizard · Member since
jamster1111 wrote:
My first Queen bootleg was Live in Newcastle 1979, and it wad from 12/4/1979 as you can probably guess.
I actually bought it off a website and it came in the mail with a fancy design and CD case that looked like an official release. Great memories.
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Then it's technically not a bootleg, as it's just a couple CDRs that someone packaged together. A bootleg is something that is sold by a bootleg company, usually in Japan. Non-official =/= bootleg.
My first vinyl bootleg should have been Sheetkeeckers, but for some reason I put it down at the record fair. My first vinyl bootleg ended up being "Mania" from Seattle 77.
drmurph · Member since
I remember seeing a Queen CD when visiting Germany when very young (12 ish) which I didn't recognise nor the songs on it. I didn't buy it. Regretted it for years (actually still do a bit!)
I first bought either " No more heroes" (Seattle 77) or "Killers" which claimed to be live but was BBC sessions with audience overdubs. This was probably about 1994 when I started university and became aware of bootlegs. It was so exciting back then looking forward to the next record fair so I could trawl the stalls searching for concerts.
Then years later I found this site and queenconcerts...
The Real Wizard · Member since
Check out my website - you might find that bootleg you saw in Germany. Just an inkling, but it might be from either Seattle 77 or Fukuoka 82.
Pim Derks · Member since
My first bootlegs were probably the Italian picture discs "Everytime Everywhere" and another one simply title "Queen" I believe. Included snippets of Live Aid, Milan 1984 and Budapest 86 if I'm not mistaken. One of the earliest cd's I got probably was the In Nuce bootleg in 1995/1996.
eYe · Member since
My first bootleg was Merry Christmas. http://www.queenonstage.com/mywebpage/merrych_cd.htm
jamster1111 · Member since
Sir GH wrote: jamster1111 wrote:
My first Queen bootleg was Live in Newcastle 1979, and it wad from 12/4/1979 as you can probably guess.
I actually bought it off a website and it came in the mail with a fancy design and CD case that looked like an official release. Great memories.
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Then it's technically not a bootleg, as it's just a couple CDRs that someone packaged together. A bootleg is something that is sold by a bootleg company, usually in Japan. Non-official =/= bootleg.
My first vinyl bootleg should have been Sheetkeeckers, but for some reason I put it down at the record fair. My first vinyl bootleg ended up being "Mania" from Seattle 77. Well when people say "bootleg", I think of a non-official recording that someone compiled together and it is usually an audience recording.
dysan · Member since
Considering I got into Queen at such a young age, I never really collected the bootlegs until much later - mainly via the internet. I think I reached 'collecting' age when I got into Bowie and hit the record fairs hard - Queen never really got a look in. Although I cherished my TV recording of Wembley '86
Gregsynth · Member since
Unauthorized recording = Bootleg
rhyeking · Member since
According to Wikipedia:
"A bootleg recording is an audio and/or video recording of a performance that was not officially released by the artist, or under other legal authority.[...] Bootlegs can consist of recordings of live performances, or material created in private or professional recording sessions. Changing technologies have had a great impact on the recording, distribution, and varying profitability of the underground industry. The copyrights for the song and the right to authorize recordings often reside with the artist, according to several international copyright treaties."
So, basically, if the copyright holder of the music didn't release it, it's a bootleg. That concert recording you posted on YouTube, made with your iPhone, that's a bootleg! Copies of broadcasts that haven't been released otherwise are bootlegs.
That's fine for concerts and such, but there are things like "Queen In Nuce" and "The Ultimate Back Catalog" CDs which contain officially released material in an unofficial format. These are pirate copies of the songs, except for the songs which were never released officially, which are bootleg tracks (Brian's 1991 radio performances, for example). So, sometimes you end up with a jumble of pirated and bootlegged tracks.
Unreleased demos and outtakes leaked from the vaults are also bootleg tracks.
That torrent copy of Thor you're downloading right now, made by a guy in the theatre with a camcorder, is pirated.