when did Q&PR fall apart?

I'm trying to pin point when the who thing fell apart.

Some events to make a time line:

* During the German part of the TCR tour, Roger said this might be the last time they tour (to which Brian replies "really?")

 * In a  US radio interview from mid october 2008, Brian says they just
played Barcelona. Everything sounds like it's ok. When asked about a US
tour he says there might be, "but probably not in the spring, maybe
later"

*South America : every interview footage shows Brian looking
really depressed. On his soapbox he posts a picture and says "the very
end of a long journey")

*3.12.2008: Brian writes the following on his
website: Well, I don't know where anyone got that idea - Roger and Paul
and myself haven't made any decisions whatsoever about the future ...
We just need a rest !

*Spring 2009; Paul says Queen is over and that they might do a one off some time

 So; when do you think they pulled the plug? And what caused it?

I always thought it was the studio work that killed the project. Playing live is fine and dandy (even back in the old days Queen rarely had disagreements when they were on the road), but studio work is difficult and they weren't used to each-other's ways. So the friction must have begun there and it escalated during the 2008 tour.

V.

I thought that the South American tour kind of did it in?

Just be thankful they did.

I'm pleased that QPR is no more.

The tour, album and the reckless use of the Queen name caused untold damage to the band's reputation and catalogue.

The sad thing is that I suspect no lessons have been learnt from this episode and BM / RT will continue to work as Queen in the future.

Won't they ever learn?

Um, it's their band that they created.  Who are you to say how they should use their own band name?

A legacy is not something that can be tampered with.  It's not like something from 2008 can make something from 1975 disappear.

With that logic, the following things should have disappeared decades ago:

Yes, Genesis, Supertramp, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Chicago.

But they haven't.  Music transcends people, and Brian and Roger understand that.  Bands will exist for as long as founding members of the bands exist (and who knows, maybe even afterward, like Yes may soon be - only Chris Squire is left).  Queen are not exempt.

Yes but the early incarnations are always best. Ask any fan of those bands who the best line ups where and/or when the best music was made. I think we all know what the answer would be.

The first incarnation of each band is always the best? Ringo Starr, David Gilmour and -yes- John Deacon beg to differ.

EDIT: Oops, you said "the early incarnations" and not "the first".

mooghead wrote:

Yes but the early incarnations are always best. Ask any fan of those bands who the best line ups where and/or when the best music was made. I think we all know what the answer would be.

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I agree.  But that doesn't mean they should change the band name because the personnel changed.

Afraid to say i agree with Sir GH on this one, any band member has the right to use a band name so long as the other members have no problem with it. I mean, they are a part of that legacy and any fans that try to say otherwise really should just keep their opinions to themselves, i mean, you can't love everything a band does, but to dismiss an entire part of their career just cos you didn't like it, well, thats just silly isn't it?

Great idea for a topic!  I'm guessing 4th of April 2009, 6:32 AM London time.

I feared this would become a re-hash of old arguments

are no one interested in why the fact that they split up despite claiming otherwise?

I think they just have too many different things on their respective agenda - Brian and Paul seem to be very busy! And lets face it: they are kind of old:-) so I wouldn´´t be surprised if the "time off" thing is just genuine!

BTW: Can all the whining about QPR please stop!! We all know its not Queen as it was - that will never return!! I was very happy to see the new Queen and will be even happier when they return again (with whatever singer).

dagi wrote: I'm pleased that QPR is no more.

The tour, album and the reckless use of the Queen name caused untold damage to the band's reputation and catalogue.

The sad thing is that I suspect no lessons have been learnt from this episode and BM / RT will continue to work as Queen in the future.

Won't they ever learn?
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Did you visit one of the concerts?

mooghead wrote: Yes but the early incarnations are always best. Ask any fan of those bands who the best line ups where and/or when the best music was made. I think we all know what the answer would be.

Oh I really beg to differ! Genesis' Duke album is my favorite Genesis album. And it was recorded 6 years after Peter Gabriel left the band. I'd also pick The Cosmos Rocks over 50% of the Queen albums, and the Cosmos tour over every 1980-1986 Queen show.