Soundfreak wrote: Finally we have got something completely new and still there are 'fans' who moan. Sad. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< In case you mean me I am not moaning. I said these tracks are interesting but not essential - as we have final and better takes of both songs. But I am critisizing that these things are labeled as "Bonus EP" when in fact you have to pay the price of a Deluxe Double CD for these few tracks. In my language bonus always means "some extra for free".
I think it's sad when people take quotes out of context and then even start to insult others from the safe anonymous position of their homecomputers.... =======
"as we have final and better takes of both songs" - I'm really interested in what you expected to be included instead of rare demos/alternate takes/whatever. Of course these versions are essential for Queen fans. It extends our collections even further. It's interesting for the general public, I would say.
Well, the 'Bonus EP' discussion is rather old, and is getting tedious in addition. If you don't care about these extra things, why not buy the normal editions instead? You're not being forced to spend extra money.
Isle0fRed · Member since
If there was anything to complain about the 2nd set of remasters for me is the 2CD logo on the front hinge spine. Other than that, I think the 2nd Set are stronger released than the 1st set. NOTW for bonus and FG for sound. (bare in mind I only own the 93/94 DMR series)
smilebrian · Member since
The Japanese CP32 sounds excellent to me, I'd be extremely doubtful of Ludwig doing a better job so will pass on this one.
Soundfreak · Member since
Rick wrote: "as we have final and better takes of both songs" - I'm really interested in what you expected to be included instead of rare demos/alternate takes/whatever. Of course these versions are essential for Queen fans. It extends our collections even further. It's interesting for the general public, I would say.
Well, the 'Bonus EP' discussion is rather old, and is getting tedious in addition. If you don't care about these extra things, why not buy the normal editions instead? You're not being forced to spend extra money.
@Rick Besides Queen I'm a long time collector of the Beatles. And I used to be excited about every unfinished outtake and demo of an idea - until I found out that I usually listen to them once or twice for studying how a song developed. And then I never ever listen to them again. Instead I play the regular albums. Exceptions are finished alternate takes.
So unfinished stuff like a demo of "Sail away" are highly interesting once or twice, but then I see no point in listening again when I have a finished version on the album. So I consider those things as interesting but not essential.
Essential are tracks like the so called "BBC/King Biscuit version" of "We will rock you", the alternate "Kind of magic"...the De Lane Lea recordings....the BBC "White Queen"...."See what a Fool".... Things that are finished and/or give a new approach to a well known song.
I'm sorry to bore you with the "Bonus EP" discussion. But this discussion is hot as long as the record companies - who permanently complain about being robbed - permanently try to make money for nothing.
When I buy a Deluxe edition of the Kinks these days I get around 60 songs on two full CDs with lots of unheard stuff including an extensive booklet. I have to pay the same money for an old Queen album being slightly louder plus a "Bonus CD" with four minutes of previously unreleased stuff (The Game). And even if it bores you I think it's not right
paulosham · Member since
he speaks the truth
Rick · Member since
Well, I played Jazz yesterday on my Harman Kardon set, which is a very good set, I might add, and I do notice a big improvement over the old releases. Mustapha blew me away once the guitars entered. Jealousy is bliss. Everything sounds much bigger and better. Even the drum sound is acceptable now.
So yeah, tastes differ.
Soundfreak · Member since
Even the drum sound is acceptable now.
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Wow!!! That means your stereo system is able to remix tracks....;-)
Rick · Member since
Soundfreak wrote: Even the drum sound is acceptable now.
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Wow!!! That means your stereo system is able to remix tracks....;-)
======== In terms of depth. The old releases have a very thin sound.
TyphoonTip · Member since
Rick wrote: Soundfreak wrote: Even the drum sound is acceptable now.
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Wow!!! That means your stereo system is able to remix tracks....;-)
======== In terms of depth. The old releases have a very thin sound.
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That's a matter of opinion, and certainly one I don't share. The original CD mastering shared by both the CDP and the CP32 sound great. Not thin in the slightest IMO. Perfect, in fact.
Rick · Member since
That might be true. I actually own one of them, but the 2011 version is even better, according to my ears.
tcc · Member since
I found the loudness very uneven. For the first two or three songs, the first part of the song is soft but the latter part is loud. The last few songs are evenly loud but louder than the first few songs. I noticed it because I had to turn the volume knob up and down to adjust to a decent volume - up to listen better and down to avoid disturbing my neighbours. Overall I like it.
Rick · Member since
The volume difference in Mustapha is intentional.
4 x Vision · Member since
Dreamers Ball Accoustic bonus is delicious. Better than ther album track for me.
FBG still sounds crap. I never liked that it was so thin/quiet, but it's not much better still. The opening of the song is louder and clearer, but for me that's not a good thing... they sound horrible on FBG at the start... only time i've really disliked their voices together on a studio track!?!
dowens · Member since
When it says that the bass drum for "Jealousy" was 'reinstated,' does that mean Roger played it and it's been added?
