listen the track.
I created a matrix with the official remaster, and other source of snow.producciones i think.
Demostrates the autotune in the track himself.
Sorry for my english.
I'm chilean
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jamster1111
Interesting...
In which points do you think in the remaster did they use autotune? Timestamps? Because I think you're on to something here...
In which points do you think in the remaster did they use autotune? Timestamps? Because I think you're on to something here...
inu-liger
This doesn't surprise me. Brian and QPL just don't get it, people don't want these fixes being put into place. It's one thing to update the drum sound and bring everything up to contemporary shape, but auto-tuning and overdubbing on previously released material is just plain wrong!
The Real Wizard
:45 is the most obvious one. Excellent work.
It's completely unnecessary to autotune Freddie Mercury. He was a master vocalist and musician, but he was also a human being. No human being can sing 100% in pitch 100% of the time. Live concerts are supposed to have flaws. It's too bad that some people just don't get that.
It's completely unnecessary to autotune Freddie Mercury. He was a master vocalist and musician, but he was also a human being. No human being can sing 100% in pitch 100% of the time. Live concerts are supposed to have flaws. It's too bad that some people just don't get that.
Gregsynth
Hmmm, it sounds really "phased" (that part at 45 seconds)! That doesn't sound right.
That's some REALLY phased auto tune (you can actually hear TWO FREDDIES--the off pitch one, and the corrected one). If they wanted to "touch up" the pitch, why couldn't they simply NOT use autotune, and simply just fix the pitch without a program? Look at Montreal and Live At The Bowl: There's some pitch correction on those releases, but they didn't use autotune, and Freddie still sounded "natural."
That's some REALLY phased auto tune (you can actually hear TWO FREDDIES--the off pitch one, and the corrected one). If they wanted to "touch up" the pitch, why couldn't they simply NOT use autotune, and simply just fix the pitch without a program? Look at Montreal and Live At The Bowl: There's some pitch correction on those releases, but they didn't use autotune, and Freddie still sounded "natural."
Fireplace
Actually what I hear sounds more like a chorus or doubling effect as if the processed signal is doubling the original, which is just as unnecessary for the likes of FM. I work with Autotune and other pitch correction tools, and they can do a lot better than this.
Gregsynth
Yeah, I'm with you on this: It's either really bad use of autotune, or a chorus/phase effect. That part at 45 seconds is not cool!
MERQRY
I don´t know if i undertand well but this file that you shared here has nothing to do with the remaster one wich is on the Bonus EP! this file has an awful pitch and some awful echoes (or chorus) than the remaster version doesn´t has.
GratefulFan
I think the original poster may be describing superimposing the two tracks to highlight the changes, thus explaining the echo/two Freddies? Maybe?
jamster1111
inu-liger wrote: This doesn't surprise me. Brian and QPL just don't get it, people don't want these fixes being put into place. It's one thing to update the drum sound and bring everything up to contemporary shape, but auto-tuning and overdubbing on previously released material is just plain wrong!
Actually a lot of the recordings benefit from these kind of fixes. The kind of fixes most people don't like are stupid edits like cuts in songs and stuff like that. This Hammersmith '75 recording benefited a lot from these simple pitch corrections and another gig that would highly benefit from this kind of treatment is Hyde Park. They've already fixed up Ogre Battle and it sounds great.
Actually a lot of the recordings benefit from these kind of fixes. The kind of fixes most people don't like are stupid edits like cuts in songs and stuff like that. This Hammersmith '75 recording benefited a lot from these simple pitch corrections and another gig that would highly benefit from this kind of treatment is Hyde Park. They've already fixed up Ogre Battle and it sounds great.
The Real Wizard
Precisely. Give her two stars !
The Real Wizard
jamster1111 wrote:
They've already fixed up Ogre Battle and it sounds great.
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But not like this. They just did some basic mixing and maybe EQing ... no autotune or anything drastic.
It may sound like it, but that just goes to show how bad the generated video feed sounds.
They've already fixed up Ogre Battle and it sounds great.
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But not like this. They just did some basic mixing and maybe EQing ... no autotune or anything drastic.
It may sound like it, but that just goes to show how bad the generated video feed sounds.
jamster1111
Gregsynth wrote: Hmmm, it sounds really "phased" (that part at 45 seconds)! That doesn't sound right.
That's some REALLY phased auto tune (you can actually hear TWO FREDDIES--the off pitch one, and the corrected one). If they wanted to "touch up" the pitch, why couldn't they simply NOT use autotune, and simply just fix the pitch without a program? Look at Montreal and Live At The Bowl: There's some pitch correction on those releases, but they didn't use autotune, and Freddie still sounded "natural."
I think they used the same type of program for this as they did on Rock Montreal and Live at the Bowl. And to me, Freddie still sounds natural here.
That's some REALLY phased auto tune (you can actually hear TWO FREDDIES--the off pitch one, and the corrected one). If they wanted to "touch up" the pitch, why couldn't they simply NOT use autotune, and simply just fix the pitch without a program? Look at Montreal and Live At The Bowl: There's some pitch correction on those releases, but they didn't use autotune, and Freddie still sounded "natural."
I think they used the same type of program for this as they did on Rock Montreal and Live at the Bowl. And to me, Freddie still sounds natural here.
jamster1111
Sir GH wrote: jamster1111 wrote:
They've already fixed up Ogre Battle and it sounds great.
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But not like this. They just did some basic mixing and maybe EQing ... no autotune or anything drastic.
It may sound like it, but that just goes to show how bad the generated video feed sounds.
On the DOOL documentary it sounds like they removed the vocal crack on the screams at the beginning of Ogre Battle right before the first verse yet Freddie is still singing so it sounds like some pitch correcting thing. I don't think they've ever used autotune though. Even for the newly remastered Hammersmith '75 tracks it sounds more like some pitch correcting program.
They've already fixed up Ogre Battle and it sounds great.
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But not like this. They just did some basic mixing and maybe EQing ... no autotune or anything drastic.
It may sound like it, but that just goes to show how bad the generated video feed sounds.
On the DOOL documentary it sounds like they removed the vocal crack on the screams at the beginning of Ogre Battle right before the first verse yet Freddie is still singing so it sounds like some pitch correcting thing. I don't think they've ever used autotune though. Even for the newly remastered Hammersmith '75 tracks it sounds more like some pitch correcting program.
The Real Wizard
jamster1111 wrote:
On the DOOL documentary it sounds like they removed the vocal crack on the screams at the beginning of Ogre Battle right before the first verse yet Freddie is still singing so it sounds like some pitch correcting thing.
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You can't fix a voice crack with pitch correction. They probably just copied/pasted from another scream a second or two later.
On the DOOL documentary it sounds like they removed the vocal crack on the screams at the beginning of Ogre Battle right before the first verse yet Freddie is still singing so it sounds like some pitch correcting thing.
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You can't fix a voice crack with pitch correction. They probably just copied/pasted from another scream a second or two later.