A Pic-nic By The Sepertine

Thank you very much for sharing this with us.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]brians wig wrote:[/QUOTENAME] For future reference, 10mb/s is the MAXIMUM bitrate a DVD player will cope with (that's the video and audio combined) and many older machines won't even accept that, which is one of the reasons that very few commercially available DVDs go beyond 8mb/s.
The max bitrate for the video element is 7.8, so you certainly need to make sure that any future encoding you do takes account of this.

On the other hand, the higher bitrate won't be a problem to folks who will be playing on their PC or a media player (or even burn to a bluray disc!), and of course the higher the bitrate the less artefacting! [/QUOTE]

Not quite correct.
The maximum video bitrate for DVD is 9.8 MBps for mpeg2 or 1.856 MBps for mpeg1 (thank god I haven't seen mpeg1-sourced DVDs for many, many years).
The maximum bitrate for ALL streams TOGETHER is 10.08MBps (video + audio + subpicture streams).

Also I play many DVDs on my PC via PowerDVD and the version I'm using (because it came with my DVD burner) has BIG problems if the max bitrate jumps over 10.08MBps. It actually STOPS the video playback for a short time, but the audio playback continues, so the rest of the DVD has pretty bad video-audio synchronization problems ! I have no idea if other players have problems with it too or if it's just a PowerDVD problem, but my (older) standalone Toshiba player always stops the DVD playback COMPLETELY and returns back to the menu as soon as the bitrate exceeds the specifications

pittrek wrote:

brians wig wrote: For future reference, 10mb/s is the MAXIMUM bitrate a DVD player will cope with (that's the video and audio combined) and many older machines won't even accept that, which is one of the reasons that very few commercially available DVDs go beyond 8mb/s.
The max bitrate for the video element is 7.8, so you certainly need to make sure that any future encoding you do takes account of this.

On the other hand, the higher bitrate won't be a problem to folks who will be playing on their PC or a media player (or even burn to a bluray disc!), and of course the higher the bitrate the less artefacting!

Not quite correct.
The maximum video bitrate for DVD is 9.8 MBps for mpeg2 or 1.856 MBps for mpeg1 (thank god I haven't seen mpeg1-sourced DVDs for many, many years).
The maximum bitrate for ALL streams TOGETHER is 10.08MBps (video + audio + subpicture streams).

Also I play many DVDs on my PC via PowerDVD and the version I'm using (because it came with my DVD burner) has BIG problems if the max bitrate jumps over 10.08MBps. It actually STOPS the video playback for a short time, but the audio playback continues, so the rest of the DVD has pretty bad video-audio synchronization problems ! I have no idea if other players have problems with it too or if it's just a PowerDVD problem, but my (older) standalone Toshiba player always stops the DVD playback COMPLETELY and returns back to the menu as soon as the bitrate exceeds the specifications
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Hi, Pittrek!
Have you complete audio  concert  at the  Rainbow Theatre 19 or 20 november?

No

pittrek wrote: No

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I`m sorry I`ve meant video Live at The Rainbow your version I heard you did this version

How does this compare to the usual dvd with the Roger Taylor menu? Would like the views of someone whos downloaded n watched it on a tv screen as its often hard to tell by a screenshot :)

Thanks for good sharing!!

Dodger Taylor wrote: How does this compare to the usual dvd with the Roger Taylor menu? Would like the views of someone whos downloaded n watched it on a tv screen as its often hard to tell by a screenshot :)
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The "usual DVD with the RT menu" was done by me back in 2001. It's from a mono QTV transmission and only has single channel audio (centre channel), because it seemed pointless using two channel audio as TV's back then would still output it to their left and right channels.

Being a fussy bugger for quality (and I'll ALWAYS favour video quality over a PCM soundtrack!), I'll let you know later today how it compares.

Here is torrent file

brians wig wrote:The "usual DVD with the RT menu" was done by me back in 2001. It's from a mono QTV transmission and only has single channel audio (centre channel), because it seemed pointless using two channel audio as TV's back then would still output it to their left and right channels.

Being a fussy bugger for quality (and I'll ALWAYS favour video quality over a PCM soundtrack!), I'll let you know later today how it compares.
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Well as you made the original dvd I was talking about you will be the best person to compare it  lol
cheers mate

I need help please...

If I downloaded all of the rar files can I just unzip the first one and I'll be done or do I have to unzip all of them?

jamster1111 wrote: I need help please...

If I downloaded all of the rar files can I just unzip the first one and I'll be done or do I have to unzip all of them?
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Enough the first one

jamster1111 wrote: I need help please...

If I downloaded all of the rar files can I just unzip the first one and I'll be done or do I have to unzip all of them?
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Unzip the first one and it will automatically unzip all of the others in sequence to leave with  video_ts & audio_ts folders which you can then drop into 'Nero' (or whatever you use) to burn the DVD.
Be warned. It probably won't work in a DVD player because of the high bitrate of the video, but it SHOULD work in a bluray player. (though don't quote me on that!)

QUALITY COMPARISON BETWEEN THIS AND THE 'OLD' VERSION WITH THE ROGER TAYLOR MENU

Okay, I've done an A/B test with this download and the DVD I made 10 years ago and have found the following:

1) The Audio on this 'new' version is better than the audio on mine (no surprise there!)

2) This new version appears to be a generation higher than mine.

However, there are pros and cons with each version:

Whilst mine looks a generation lower than this one and contains the QTV logo, this one still has the QTV logo, though it has been 'cleaned off' by the software that "removes logos". You can see a fuzzy box where the QTV logo should be.

This 'new' version also has horizontal picture wobble (I can't descibe it any better than that) whereas mine doesn't, but this could simply have bee caused during the capture procedure from VHS IF the person who did it has used a VHS player with built in TBC.

The colours on this 'new' version are more stable, as though they were played from a VHS recorder with built in "Time Base Corrector", either that or it's been run through some additional software like "Neat Video" - something which wasn't available 10 years ago.

So. It's a toss up really between a 'clean' looking picture that suffers from horizontal 'banding' wobbling, or the old picture that doesn't wobble but isn't quite as good.

Mine is the original recording onto VHS from the QTV 'broadcast', so they're both form the same master-tape effectively.
It's all down to which convention venue the 'new' one was recorded (It's pre-2000, I can tell you that because the picture doesn't suffer from Channel 5 interference!) and where in-line from the source the chalet was! I'm convinced that the chalets at Prestatyn were all connected via cable and the further down the line you were, the worse the signal was.
Of course,being recorded on a new machine, an old machine or even an SVHS recorder will also make the difference between quality!

Cheers Brians Wig,Ill give it a look then.And obviously thanks to the sharer  :)