Queen at the EMAs

queenUSA wrote: Much talk has been made about being a singer ... but what about being a musician as well?

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Queen was always 4 musicians - equally working hard and jamming on stage together full bore.

For ME -  I'd like to see someone who can play piano and sing.  Being able to play something adds a huge
dimension to the performance.   Can anyone be found who has both talents?

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Freddie was hardly playing any piano either in the studio or live during most of the '80s.

Let's be honest, i do not expect to see full shows with Bri and Rog in the future. And forget about touring.
We got some nice farewell tours with Paul Rodgers, those shows were great fun and the boys were in good form.
With all credits to Paul, it showed once again that Freddie was and is unique and cannot be replaced.

B&R aren't getting any younger, they have practically retired.
Occasional promo-perfomances like this are all we can expect at this point and beyond.
Just place performances like this in the right perspective and enjoy them while they still do it.

Marcos Napier wrote:

Voice of Reason 2010 wrote: The singer was a man
Not really.

LOL!

They kept the singer in silhouette for a long time at the start.  I was trying to figure out who it was.  From the hair I thought it was La Roux!

jpf wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass.
Can't stand AL.

I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs).

IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen.
Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

Mullen? You shit on Lambert but want Queen to truly become a punchline by officially becoming their own tribute band?

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AL sucks.  Gary has the voice to make it work.  You don't like him.  I couldn't care less.

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Go enjoy your ridiculous tribute show then. Mullen has no original talent of his own, he is literally a copycat.

and darn, you couldn't care less that I don't like him? What motivated you to respond then?

GratefulFan wrote: Interview on brianmay.com.  Man I hate to be a stream of negativity on this event, but the guy is such an enormous douchebag on top of being an overrated (one in one hundred million voice!?) singer.  Just like him to turn an interview into his own personal gay pride event. 

Well far be it for a young man to try and install some honesty into the world, be rightly proud of who he is and perhaps be a beacon of hope to young gay men and women.

I mean if you REALLY want to get negative here (yet remain factual) ol' Freddie himself seemed like a gay Uncle Tom who lived in denial, dealt with a hefty amount of self-hatred and did nothing for his own community.

Oh what am I saying? I'm dealing with Freddie fans here and to them, he was an angel sent from god and could do no wrong.

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote: Interview on brianmay.com.  Man I hate to be a stream of negativity on this event, but the guy is such an enormous douchebag on top of being an overrated (one in one hundred million voice!?) singer.  Just like him to turn an interview into his own personal gay pride event. 

 

Well far be it for a young man to try and install some honesty into the world, be rightly proud of who he is and perhaps be a beacon of hope to young gay men and women.

I mean if you REALLY want to get negative here (yet remain factual) ol' Freddie himself seemed like a gay Uncle Tom who lived in denial, dealt with a hefty amount of self-hatred and did nothing for his own community.

Oh what am I saying? I'm dealing with Freddie fans here and to them, he was an angel sent from god and could do no wrong. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Beacon of hope in what way? I would hope young people, gay or straight, would look beyond showbiz personalities for their role models. (I know very little about Lambert btw, so I'm happy to be corrected if he has done somethin worthwhile.)

I agree that any singer who says they idolize Queen Brian wants to team up with.  Which in most cases as we've seen is a disaster.  Adam Lambert needs to stop trying to be Freddie Mercury and find his own idenity, trying to imitate a legend isn't going to give him any kind of credibility.  He certainly isn't anything like him, talent, looks or stage presence and will never become anything trying to.

"I know very little about Lambert btw, so I'm happy to be corrected if he has done somethin worthwhile"

Don't hold your breath.

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass.
Can't stand AL.

I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs).

IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen.
Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

Mullen? You shit on Lambert but want Queen to truly become a punchline by officially becoming their own tribute band?

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AL sucks.  Gary has the voice to make it work.  You don't like him.  I couldn't care less.

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Go enjoy your ridiculous tribute show then. Mullen has no original talent of his own, he is literally a copycat.

and darn, you couldn't care less that I don't like him? What motivated you to respond then?

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He's talking about strictly Gary's voice. Lambert CANNOT sing Queen to save his life: He shouted and warbled throughout the performance, he was off key, and his vibrato doesn't sound good. No, I don't want to see Queen + Gary Mullen, but I'd rather hear Gary sing Queen songs ANY DAY (least he knows how to sing those types of songs) compared with Lambert.

Queen4ever13 wrote: I agree that any singer who says they idolize Queen Brian wants to team up with.  Which in most cases as we've seen is a disaster.  Adam Lambert needs to stop trying to be Freddie Mercury and find his own idenity, trying to imitate a legend isn't going to give him any kind of credibility.  He certainly isn't anything like him, talent, looks or stage presence and will never become anything trying to.

In what way is Lambert "trying to be Freddie Mercury" exactly? Imitate? How? Gary Mullen is the fake here, Lambert is Lambert and I have never once seen anything that resembled even the barest attempt at trying to imitate anyone.

Holly2003 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

GratefulFan wrote: Interview on brianmay.com.  Man I hate to be a stream of negativity on this event, but the guy is such an enormous douchebag on top of being an overrated (one in one hundred million voice!?) singer.  Just like him to turn an interview into his own personal gay pride event. 

 

Well far be it for a young man to try and install some honesty into the world, be rightly proud of who he is and perhaps be a beacon of hope to young gay men and women.

I mean if you REALLY want to get negative here (yet remain factual) ol' Freddie himself seemed like a gay Uncle Tom who lived in denial, dealt with a hefty amount of self-hatred and did nothing for his own community.

Oh what am I saying? I'm dealing with Freddie fans here and to them, he was an angel sent from god and could do no wrong. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Beacon of hope in what way? I would hope young people, gay or straight, would look beyond showbiz personalities for their role models. (I know very little about Lambert btw, so I'm happy to be corrected if he has done somethin worthwhile.)

That a young gay kid can look at him and know that they can be who they are, in as public as way as possible and still achieve what they want in life. To not be afraid.

Gregsynth wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass.
Can't stand AL.

I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs).

IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen.
Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

Mullen? You shit on Lambert but want Queen to truly become a punchline by officially becoming their own tribute band?

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AL sucks.  Gary has the voice to make it work.  You don't like him.  I couldn't care less.

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Go enjoy your ridiculous tribute show then. Mullen has no original talent of his own, he is literally a copycat.

and darn, you couldn't care less that I don't like him? What motivated you to respond then?

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He's talking about strictly Gary's voice. Lambert CANNOT sing Queen to save his life: He shouted and warbled throughout the performance, he was off key, and his vibrato doesn't sound good. No, I don't want to see Queen + Gary Mullen, but I'd rather hear Gary sing Queen songs ANY DAY (least he knows how to sing those types of songs) compared with Lambert.

A voice that is not his own but an imitation of someone else's.

Anyway "shouting" and "warbling" is a matter of opinion and your anti-vibrato stance is just that, your own. I absolutely LOVE how the typical close minded Queen fan immediately rush to judgement on ONE live performance by a guy who has never once sang those songs before (except for "champions" which he sang half of several years ago.)

Mullen is NOT an artist in any way, shape or form. He "knows" how to sing them simply because it's his job to imitate them. If I want to see "A Streetcar Named Desire" I sure as hell don't want to see some actor do his best Brando impersonation but rather give his own specific take on the character.

If you lot want to live in the past or in a world of copycats who offer nothing new or original, be my guest.

Michael, a runner-up on a talent show with a decent voice isn't anything close to an "artist", that demeans the term for people who have talent.  He's no better than Gary Mullen, or no worse, because they've both made their mark singing others material.  Adam Lambert is the world's most flamboyant karaoke singer, not worthy of a spot with Queen, maybe a Queen tribute band.

Michael Allred wrote:

Gregsynth wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

jpf wrote: I doubt that this Q+AL performance will lead to anything long term.  If Q+AL did work together I'd definitely pass.
Can't stand AL.

I'd go see Q+PR again.  I'd go see Q + George Michael (that is, if GM can still sing and he's no longer messed up on drugs).

IMO, if Brian and Roger want to tour and have a singer that sounds like Freddie then they need to get Gary Mullen.
Gary has the voice and the showmanship to make it work.

Mullen? You shit on Lambert but want Queen to truly become a punchline by officially becoming their own tribute band?

-----

AL sucks.  Gary has the voice to make it work.  You don't like him.  I couldn't care less.

------------------

Go enjoy your ridiculous tribute show then. Mullen has no original talent of his own, he is literally a copycat.

and darn, you couldn't care less that I don't like him? What motivated you to respond then?

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He's talking about strictly Gary's voice. Lambert CANNOT sing Queen to save his life: He shouted and warbled throughout the performance, he was off key, and his vibrato doesn't sound good. No, I don't want to see Queen + Gary Mullen, but I'd rather hear Gary sing Queen songs ANY DAY (least he knows how to sing those types of songs) compared with Lambert.

A voice that is not his own but an imitation of someone else's.

Anyway "shouting" and "warbling" is a matter of opinion and your anti-vibrato stance is just that, your own. I absolutely LOVE how the typical close minded Queen fan immediately rush to judgement on ONE live performance by a guy who has never once sang those songs before (except for "champions" which he sang half of several years ago.)

Mullen is NOT an artist in any way, shape or form. He "knows" how to sing them simply because it's his job to imitate them. If I want to see "A Streetcar Named Desire" I sure as hell don't want to see some actor do his best Brando impersonation but rather give his own specific take on the character.

If you lot want to live in the past or in a world of copycats who offer nothing new or original, be my guest.

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Apparently, you don't seem to get it: I've watched Lambert on American Idol, his 2010-2011 tour, and his various guest/TV appearances. He does indeed have an excessive "musical theatre" vibrato, and he does wail/shout/scream high notes. If you actually get off your high horse and read the comments on this thread, you can see that MANY users here are saying something similar. If you can't hear his "goat-vibrato" on that performance, then I don't what to say (even Sir GH said he over-did the vibrato). You are incredibly arrogant to judge people and claim that Queen fans are close-minded. Hello? Maybe some people DIDN'T LIKE THE PERFORMANCE. I didn't like Freddie's performance of "Communication Breakdown" from 1969, but you don't see me bitching and moaning on forums and Youtube about it (then comparing that to Robert Plant).

The reason why I didn't like this performance has nothing to do with being anti-Lambert/pro-Queen. It was because Lambert was OFF KEY, and SCREAMED during TSMGO (which aren't opinions). How's that for an answer?

Zebonka12 wrote: "Oh, how I long for those little seconds when Brian first appeared on the Tribute (FMT) singing Tie Your Mother Down. For a little time, at least, my heart was filled with hopes that Queen would simply go on in 1992, with Brian and Roger as lead vocalists... a new album and tour seemed just around the corner... stupid me :)"

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I totally agree about those little seconds where Brian opened TYMD at the tribute show, but funnily enough that only happened because Joe Elliott got lost on the way to the stage and missed his cue.   Perfect way to open the main part of the show - and it was accidental!