Interesting. I've been bullied for a short time, but I never TRIED to kill myself. I was THINKING about killing myself many times, but I always ended thinking that it will be better if I kill THEM . It's quite sad that some people are so weak and want to SERIOUSLY commit suicide, I always felt much more anger than sadness.
I also can't believe that he makes this public and puts his story on youtube. When I got beaten I wanted to hide myself forever and not talk with anybody. Fortunately my "bullying time" didn't last long, after I gained some weight, started to listen to punk rock , hang out with punks and skins and beat anybody who tried to beat me, I suddenly wasn't interesting for those cocks, they found "better" victims.
There is no solution to this problem, bullies will ALWAYS exist. Sad but true.
Oh, now I noticed that kid is gay. Looks like the poor guy told it to the incorrect persons.
But seriously - Queen - Serious Discussion ?
GratefulFan · Member since
Kids do need to be loved and to know that their strengths make them wonderful, unique people. That said, the masses would do well I think to think a little more deeply about lionizing people on the basis of 4 minute video clips on the Internet. This kid went from saint to sinner in an electronic blink - from tortured and brave to arrogant and undeserving in a single click over to the next clip. It's all a little illusory, isn't it. All we actually know for sure about 'Jonah' - who we're now on a first name basis with apparently - is that he skillfully captured and communicated the very real essence of adolescent pain in a way that emotionally connected on a medium that prizes punch and a short attention spans over complexity and depth. It's possible that the biggest take away here is that he'd have a great career in advertising or marketing.
Situations where kids are being bullied in high school are usually years in the making - years of failing to successfully socially connect,years of having their self worth eroded by negative messages from peers and sometimes even teachers and their own families. Some kids are literally crippled by fear of failure and rejection by this point, and don't even know how to initiate or be part of a mutually pleasing social interaction, even though they usually desperately want to. By this time their active responsibility for some of their social impairment is real. Attempting to insulate teens entirely from the negative consequences of reality - while demonizing people behaving like people - seems to me to unnecessarily strip them of the power to understand that sometimes, in some ways, it is them. And that that's OK. That though time has a way of smoothing the jagged peaks and troughs of adolescence into mere bumps, there are risks and benefits to deviating from norms and expectations for everyone for their entire lives.
The only 'pay-off' for being a victim of bullying or childhood cruelty is a strength, maturity, empathy and introspection that some people may only reach years later, if ever. There are many things bullied children need to be protected from, but that isn't one of them. I don't think instant, fleeting, shallow internet love and fame - the electronic equivalent of everybody gets a trophy - is a substitute for anything of much worth.
N0_Camping4U · Member since
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] N0_Camping4U wrote:
>Everyone has a hard time growing up, everyone has awkward teen years<
Yes, but not everyone is bullied to the point of considering or committing suicide.
>Also, you don't need 'peers' to help you work out or play an instrument. Youtube (which he's quite comfortable with) can easily help him out. He wouldn't be 'put down' by anyone.<
Oh yeah, when he's dreading the next school day because a bunch of kids are going to beat him up after calling him a faggot ad nausea, he can simply switch that off and learn to play the trumpet. You just have no connection to reality. Maybe if you were bullied you'd understand.
>You don't know what it's like to be him either, so you can't really say that<
Ah, so you're an expert on my past? You just may have some potentialas a psychic, but don't quit your day job just yet. [/QUOTE]
The whole reason I said " You don't know what it's like to be him either, so you can't really say that "
Is because you said: "Do you know what it's like to be that kid? I highly doubt it."
You got a little mad with your last comment there, 'teacher'. "Don't quit my day job" ? I used YOUR own statement against you!
" Ah, so you're an expert on my past? You just may have some potential as a psychic, but don't quit your day job just yet."
Note how I when I read your original statement, or, assumption, really, I didn't say " Ah, so you're an expert ALL of our past? You just may have some potential as a psychic, but don't quit your day job just yet. " But, well, Now I can!
Tart.
