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"Lover" became "Liar"

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Toothbrushes don't talk, knowing that Lover and Liar can be different is entirely unrelated to the decision of a girl to ring me on New Year's Eve or not, and I would sacrifice an arm and a leg to have 1% of Sheldon Cooper's knowledge (which would be enough to create an artificial arm and leg to replace the missing ones).
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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Moreover, linking a music-related writing to a person's social or romantic life and portraying them in a negative light is consistent with a person whose own life is so pathetic and empty that they have to go to QZ to insult others.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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Well this certainly escalated.
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Told ya..
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"You never had it so good. The yoghurt pushers are here. There's a place I have been and a face I have seen today. I have said all my prayers, never answered, never cared at all. But there's a sudden chance in me. I'm another person inside of me. Tomorrow I am going to see the last of the blue skies above me. Lover calling, I hear your voice, solar systems that surround you all your life, they remind me that you're really from another source of light. Lover, take me to your leader, I give you body and soul. Come to understand, I grow my life in the palm of your hand".

[Lyrics from "Lover", appearing in the "Oxford Mail" as part of a feauture on "Sour Milk Sea", from "Queen - The Early Years, by Mark Hodkinson, p. 113]
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I can see a couple of lines from "Green" in there...
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1sharppencil wrote: "You never had it so good. The yoghurtpushers are here. There's a place I have been and a face I have seen today. I have said all my prayers, never answered, never cared at all. But there's a sudden chance in me. I'm another person inside of me. Tomorrow I am going to see the last of the blue skies above me. Lover calling, I hear your voice, solar systems that surround you all your life, they remind me that you're really from another source of light. Lover, take me to your leader, I give you body and soul. Come to understand, I grow my life in the palm of your hand".

[Lyrics from "Lover", appearing in the "Oxford Mail" as part of a feauture on "Sour Milk Sea", from "Queen - The Early Years, by Mark Hodkinson, p. 113]
Possibly the most genuinely informative post I have seen on this sight. Thanks and as an Oxford native I´m ashamed that I hadn´t seen the article before.
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Sebastian, not to pick on you, but although you correctly listed Radio Ga Ga as having a combo of live and synth bass, you on the other hand insisted for a good period of time that I Want It All had a programmed drum track in the middle fast section, which the leaked Rock Band multitracks (particularly on the overhead condenser cymbal/kit mic tracks) -completely- debunked!
To be fair, a lot of Queen tracks at that time had the toms, kick and snare connected to a drum sample trigger (to get that in-vogue 80's drum sound whilst still being played live!), so I can see where that might have played significant tricks on your mind.
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tl;dr

Why is this thread so full of disclaimers?!?!
Adds nothing to the topic.
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Ofcourse; there was always the blatant lift from Rod Argent's "Liar" which made it into the Queen version.

Therefore by default, I guess (imo) that Argent's bit was not on the "Lover" track.

So the story is a bit murkier than one or the other!
"Listen to them. Children of the night. What music they make."
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@jss, concerning "Liar" on the Argent lp
I'd never put two and two together...omg!
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Excellent thread.
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When Queen did their first demo in 1971, one of the guys working the gig thought Liar was a cover, as he had heard the Argent version.
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a couple of points...

i)I simply can't grasp the fact that the rest of the band agreed to the credit going to Freddie purely for writing the lyrics to "Liar"...coz I think that the song "stinks" of Brian's and Rog's contribution
ii) another amazing factor to be taken into account is the leaps Freddie made concerning both singing and on songwriting...I mean from "Vagabond" & "Green" to "Jesus" & "My Fairy King", it's quite the distance...
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[QUOTE] [b]1sharppencil wrote:[/b]
a couple of points...
i)I simply can't grasp the fact that the rest of the band agreed to the credit going to Freddie purely for writing the lyrics to "Liar"...coz I think that the song "stinks" of Brian's and Rog's contribution
ii) another amazing factor to be taken into account is the leaps Freddie made concerning both singing and on songwriting...I mean from "Vagabond" & "Green" to "Jesus" & "My Fairy King", it's quite the distance...[/QUOTE]

Yep, he really was very proffessional in the way he improved his vocals over a short period of time, as mentioned by Brian in DOOL doc. Very early Freddie did sound like a "sheep".

Although he never took singing lessons, he must have used the techniques which no doubt a singing tutor would have expected him to use to help get the most out of his voice (imo)