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Real wizard: You sure about that? I think the only think i can remember from my time on QZ is just that, that im an amatuer musician, that my music sucks, i can't sing, that i should stick dearly to my day job and never ever think about going after music. Maybe that is where my "attitude" came from, from hearing people like INU, Greg, Zebonka and others on here just bashing on me and my music.

I know how to look at myself in the mirror.I know what im good at and what im not that good at, im really good at songwriting and im learning to sing gradually, so it is my singing that needs the most improvment but not my songwriting ,that i know for a fact.
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[QUOTE] [b]Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:[/b]
I think the only think i can remember from my time on QZ is just that, that im an amatuer musician, that my music sucks, i can't sing, that i should stick dearly to my day job and never ever think about going after music. Maybe that is where my "attitude" came from, from hearing people like INU, Greg, Zebonka and others on here just bashing on me and my music.[/QUOTE]
You came out of the gate with comments like "all new music sucks except mine," so of course people are going to think you're a pompous ass even before hearing a note. That isn't rocket science.

The only person you can blame is yourself. Change your attitude towards others and maybe they might change theirs towards you. Right now they owe you absolutely nothing.

I personally don't care if you take this constructive criticism or not. But you're welcome to it.
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I dont know about that, that sounds more like my brothers behaviour trying to do PR but what if i had that oppinion then? what if i really thought that all new music really sucked? Why should someone get flamed for that?

Maybe its true? I mean there is no real gems in the mainstream music scene, atleast not in my oppinion. There are most certainly plenty of super talented musicians out there that don't get any exposure, that are MUCH better musicians than almost all the big top bands of today. But they don't get the chance to be where they are supposed to be for the industry has been manipulated i think. It has been manipulated to produce low level compositions to the masses, not much uniqueness, no real creativity. I apprecieate bands from the 70s, 80s and even mid 90s but towarsds 2000 and forward, the music in the mainstream died.
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Some days I wish we were more like QueenOnline and had mods who actually did something about keeping these people in line, if not banned from the start
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"hearing people like INU, Greg, Zebonka and others on here just bashing on me and my music"

I've never bashed you! Actually I think I've been rather fair on you, in this thread especially.
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[QUOTE] [b]Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:[/b]
Real wizard: You sure about that? I think the only think i can remember from my time on QZ is just that, that im an amatuer musician, that my music sucks, i can't sing, that i should stick dearly to my day job and never ever think about going after music.[/QUOTE]

UM... please don't group me in with everyone else, I've never said any of this.
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[QUOTE] [b]Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:[/b]
Real wizard: You sure about that? I think the only think i can remember from my time on QZ is just that, that im an amatuer musician, that my music sucks, i can't sing, that i should stick dearly to my day job and never ever think about going after music. Maybe that is where my "attitude" came from, from hearing people like INU, Greg, Zebonka and others on here just bashing on me and my music.

I know how to look at myself in the mirror.I know what im good at and what im not that good at, im really good at songwriting and im learning to sing gradually, so it is my singing that needs the most improvment but not my songwriting ,that i know for a fact.[/QUOTE]
Maybe at first you should have learnt English properly before going on this forum?
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[QUOTE] [b]Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:[/b]
what if i really thought that all new music really sucked? Why should someone get flamed for that?[/QUOTE]
Then you're either closed-minded, ignorant, not looking hard enough, or any/all of the above.

Yes, much of the mainstream is a corporate-created product, but certainly not all of it. Here's a crash course of what's been going on for the last decade or so:

Radiohead, Muse, Adele, Florence and the Machine, Black Keys, Vanpire Weekend, Keane, Bon Iver, Ben Harper, Ben Folds, Stars, Raconteurs, Sufjan Stevens, The Roots, Classified, Common, Arcade Fire, Foo Fighters, Them Crooked Vultures. Many of these great artists have won Grammys.

The audience is diversifying, thanks to the options available to them. The internet is the new mainstream. Look up the lineup of last year's Coachella festival (the biggest music festival in North America) and count the number of "mainstream" artists. You won't find many. And millions of people watched online. You could even select which stage you wanted to watch on the youtube live feed.

North By Northeast, South By Southwest. Have you ever heard of these terms before? It's where hundreds of thousands of people go every year to hear the new music that's happening. Artists get signed by labels, and others sign deals with companies to get their music played on TV commercials. People hear the 15 second snippet and google the lyrics to see who the artist is. They download the album, then go to the show and buy the T-shirt.

How about composers, like John Williams, Danny Elfman, Trevor Rabin and Karl Jenkins? How about world music? Latin, bossa nova? There is no shortage of good music.

I'd say half of the general population's tastes consist of more than just mainstream music, and most people listen to more than what they're force-fed by the radio. Especially people under the age of 40. You don't find many people younger than 40 saying "music sucks these days." You are a rare breed.
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[QUOTE]I apprecieate bands from the 70s, 80s and even mid 90s but towarsds 2000 and forward, the music in the mainstream died.[/QUOTE]
The mainstream went to shit in the 80s. But the ratio of good music to bad music today is far better than it was 30 years ago. People have been professing "the end of art" for 200 years now. Yawn..

Alan Cross recently said - "there used to be a thousand artists each with millions of fans. Now there are millions of artists each with thousands of fans."

I don't think it's a bad thing.

And if you don't like any of them, then it's you who has bad taste in music, not everyone else.

[QUOTE]Wizard: your last comment shows me that you know absolutely nothing about music.[/QUOTE]
Um... right. You, my friend, know absolutely nothing about music.
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[QUOTE] [b]Mercury SingerOfLife wrote:[/b]
what if i really thought that all new music really sucked? Why should someone get flamed for that?[/QUOTE]

Radiohead, Muse, Adele, Florence and the Machine, Black Keys, Vanpire Weekend, Keane, Bon Iver, Ben Harper, Ben Folds, Stars, Raconteurs, Sufjan Stevens, The Roots, Classified, Common, Arcade Fire, Foo Fighters, Them Crooked Vultures. [/QUOTE]

Could you really call Radiohead new?

Anyway, aside from that, I'd be willing to concede that these are capable musicians, but I couldn't honestly say I find their work interesting or pleasant to listen to.
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