Big announcement tonight

4 x Vision wrote:

People seem to be forgetting that Queen have a vast empire of new and younger fans who WANT to see and hear the old songs getting perfromed live.
Who here went to see QPR to hear Call Me, Warboys, C-lebrity?
I still think this guy will fulfill a purpose, letting them try some different material, hopefully some early stuff. End of the day, Bri and Rog want to still play Queen material, and have chosen someone with a good range and is well known to modern younger audiences.
Anyone that doesn't rate his voice is being very stubborn and close minded.
Queen have been very clever in keeping the brand alive, and this move will help them grow even stronger.[/QUOTE]

Great. So you are a fan of hearing 30 to 40 year old material, from the days before Adam Lambert was alive, and when T-Rex and Bay City Rollers ruled the world. Can't argue with that. Does Adam Lambert have a great range? Sure he does. I guess as I'm not rating his voice I'm open minded. Is rock music's (British division) holy trinity The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Queen? Arguably yes. If The Beatles played one concert with Clay Aiken in the role of John Lennon would their fans be happy? Can't say, but I doubt it. If Taylor Swift replaced Robert Plant so that people could hear Led Zeppelin music since Plant's not interested in a reunion, would their fans be happy? Can't say but I doubt it.


I'm (key word) guessing fans of those bands would think those moves would amount to sacrilege. But that's because those bands died when John Lennon and John Bonham died. They stopped because they knew the magic couldn't be replaced. The band Queen died when Freddie Mercury died, and rigor mortis set in when John Deacon's involvement ended. So you are totally spot on when discussing the brand Queen being clever. For the people who believed in the band Queen, their creativity, and their contribution to the art of popular music, this line up is the equivalent of a nostalgia band that plays tents at the state fair, but their tents are bigger so that makes it okay for some fans.

Michael Allred wrote:

tomchristie22 wrote:
Speaking as a huge Bowie fan, I can guarantee you I don't dislike AL for his choice of makeup and costume. I don't even necessarily dislike him. I just think it's absolutely stupid for an American Idol contestant and pop singer who surfaced in the late 00's to be fronting a legendary rock band from the early 70's. The difference in talent and importance is staggering. Imagine if Jimmy Page and Robert Plant did a show with Lady Ga Ga, or Ringo and Paul did a show with Justin Bieber. It's a similar level of absurdity.

You're placing an awful lot of importance on one guy singing with a band for two nights. If Lambert were to suddenly JOIN Queen, become an official member and de facto lead singer then your argument has some measure of validity.
However that's not the case and you (like everyone else) are making a mountain out of a molehill.
I do love the snobbery and elitism though. Very original amongst the online Queen fan populace.

Point taken, though, to be fair, he has performed with them a number of times over the last couple of years, so it's more of a recurring thing than just the two upcoming shows.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:

4 x Vision wrote:

People seem to be forgetting that Queen have a vast empire of new and younger fans who WANT to see and hear the old songs getting perfromed live.
Who here went to see QPR to hear Call Me, Warboys, C-lebrity?
I still think this guy will fulfill a purpose, letting them try some different material, hopefully some early stuff. End of the day, Bri and Rog want to still play Queen material, and have chosen someone with a good range and is well known to modern younger audiences.
Anyone that doesn't rate his voice is being very stubborn and close minded.
Queen have been very clever in keeping the brand alive, and this move will help them grow even stronger.

Great. So you are a fan of hearing 30 to 40 year old material, from the days before Adam Lambert was alive, and when T-Rex and Bay City Rollers ruled the world. Can't argue with that. Does Adam Lambert have a great range? Sure he does. I guess as I'm not rating his voice I'm open minded. Is rock music's (British division) holy trinity The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Queen? Arguably yes. If The Beatles played one concert with Clay Aiken in the role of John Lennon would their fans be happy? Can't say, but I doubt it. If Taylor Swift replaced Robert Plant so that people could hear Led Zeppelin music since Plant's not interested in a reunion, would their fans be happy? Can't say but I doubt it.

I'm (key word) guessing fans of those bands would think those moves would amount to sacrilege. But that's because those bands died when John Lennon and John Bonham died. They stopped because they knew the magic couldn't be replaced. The band Queen died when Freddie Mercury died, and rigor mortis set in when John Deacon's involvement ended. So you are totally spot on when discussing the brand Queen being clever. For the people who believed in the band Queen, their creativity, and their contribution to the art of popular music, this line up is the equivalent of a nostalgia band that plays tents at the state fair, but their tents are bigger so that makes it okay for some fans.

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I´m really 100% AGREE with you... but if Queen without Freddie isn´t Queen,  what can we do with a song like "Sleeping on the sidewalk" where Freddie doesn´t sing nor plays any instrument??? Or leaving Home Aint Easy where (i guess) he don´t plays nothing neither??? that songs arent by Queen?? or the fact that Freddie was alive (whatever he was when the songs were recorded) is sufficient??
Is only a real question... such a philosophical question, without sarcasm... well i put  a bit of sarcasm on it ha ha

tomchristie22 wrote:

Michael Allred wrote:

tomchristie22 wrote:
Speaking as a huge Bowie fan, I can guarantee you I don't dislike AL for his choice of makeup and costume. I don't even necessarily dislike him. I just think it's absolutely stupid for an American Idol contestant and pop singer who surfaced in the late 00's to be fronting a legendary rock band from the early 70's. The difference in talent and importance is staggering. Imagine if Jimmy Page and Robert Plant did a show with Lady Ga Ga, or Ringo and Paul did a show with Justin Bieber. It's a similar level of absurdity.

You're placing an awful lot of importance on one guy singing with a band for two nights. If Lambert were to suddenly JOIN Queen, become an official member and de facto lead singer then your argument has some measure of validity.
However that's not the case and you (like everyone else) are making a mountain out of a molehill.
I do love the snobbery and elitism though. Very original amongst the online Queen fan populace.

Point taken, though, to be fair, he has performed with them a number of times over the last couple of years, so it's more of a recurring thing than just the two upcoming shows.

Lambert has only performed with Queen once. The Idol show was a duet with the other guy.

The idol show was a duet with Kris Allen & Queen.

Really? Darn, I don't know what I'm talking about then. I swear he sung Champions on Idol...

tomchristie22 wrote:
Really? Darn, I don't know what I'm talking about then. I swear he sung Champions on Idol...

What I meant was, Lambert only performed by himself once with Queen. The Idol thing was a duet with another singer with Queen brought on by the show.