The Real Wizard
So there are different laserdisc versions in varying quality? My brain just exploded.
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zoggie
Their is two laserdisk versions I think
zoggie
and different rip so encoding it varies
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OwenSmith wrote:
Why can't you post a link to it then? Instead of making us all google for it and being uncertain whether we've got the right one or not.
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If you are addressing me, I don't have a link.
Here are some nice links for laserdisc info.
[url=http://www.queencollector.com/Laserdiscs/Budapest.htm]http://www.queencollector.com/Laserdiscs/Budapest.htm[/url]
[url=http://www.queencollector.com/Laserdiscs/Budapest99.html]http://www.queencollector.com/Laserdiscs/Budapest99.html[/url]
Why can't you post a link to it then? Instead of making us all google for it and being uncertain whether we've got the right one or not.
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If you are addressing me, I don't have a link.
Here are some nice links for laserdisc info.
[url=http://www.queencollector.com/Laserdiscs/Budapest.htm]http://www.queencollector.com/Laserdiscs/Budapest.htm[/url]
[url=http://www.queencollector.com/Laserdiscs/Budapest99.html]http://www.queencollector.com/Laserdiscs/Budapest99.html[/url]
OwenSmith
I'm addressing this forum in general. People saying "hey make sure you get the right one" and posting pictures of the menus without explaining where they downloaded it from. There are two different front menus earlier in the thread so clearly each of those people has a download from somewhere. Please can they provide URLs, and also some clarity as to which of the two rips is better one.
OwenSmith
[QUOTE] [b]zoggie wrote:[/b]
Their is two laserdisk versions I think[/QUOTE]
It is not clear to me from the info in this thread whether there are two different laserdiscs (as opposed to just a re-release for Japan in 1999), and/or whether there are two different rips.
Their is two laserdisk versions I think[/QUOTE]
It is not clear to me from the info in this thread whether there are two different laserdiscs (as opposed to just a re-release for Japan in 1999), and/or whether there are two different rips.
OwenSmith
[QUOTE] [b]KevoM wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]CosmosTales wrote:[/b]
How good is the LASERDISC version of Wembley 86 compared to the Wembley DVD version released last year?[/QUOTE]
I would have thought the laser disc to be a inferior to the DVD. I haven't seen the LD but I have seen other ones by Queen and other artists and TBH they're not as good as you think. I'd say on a par with SVHS. It's not like vinyl and cd/mp3[/QUOTE]
If you've seen SVHS recording broadcast PAL TV you have not seen it at its best. The luma and chroma have to be combined for broadcast analogue TV and no matter how good the SVHS deck seperates it there is loss that can never be recovered.
I have a high end SVHS deck, and I used to record digital terrestrial TV on it from the set top box's S-video output. This means the luma and chroma has never been combined (aka wrecked) by PAL encoding. This produced much better results than analogue TV recordings.
PAL SVHS is rated to 400 lines (VHS is 240). Laserdisc is rated to 500 lines so has higher resolution than SVHS, but on the other hand laserdisc is PAL encoded so has combined luma and chroma which SVHS doesn't have to suffer from. It is critial doing a laserdisc rip that a good 3D digital comb filter is used to seperate luma and chroma.
[QUOTE] [b]CosmosTales wrote:[/b]
How good is the LASERDISC version of Wembley 86 compared to the Wembley DVD version released last year?[/QUOTE]
I would have thought the laser disc to be a inferior to the DVD. I haven't seen the LD but I have seen other ones by Queen and other artists and TBH they're not as good as you think. I'd say on a par with SVHS. It's not like vinyl and cd/mp3[/QUOTE]
If you've seen SVHS recording broadcast PAL TV you have not seen it at its best. The luma and chroma have to be combined for broadcast analogue TV and no matter how good the SVHS deck seperates it there is loss that can never be recovered.
I have a high end SVHS deck, and I used to record digital terrestrial TV on it from the set top box's S-video output. This means the luma and chroma has never been combined (aka wrecked) by PAL encoding. This produced much better results than analogue TV recordings.
PAL SVHS is rated to 400 lines (VHS is 240). Laserdisc is rated to 500 lines so has higher resolution than SVHS, but on the other hand laserdisc is PAL encoded so has combined luma and chroma which SVHS doesn't have to suffer from. It is critial doing a laserdisc rip that a good 3D digital comb filter is used to seperate luma and chroma.
OwenSmith
EDIT: after several requests I have removed the links to the downloads. Apparenty the consensus is that this isn't done on Queenzone. While I don't agree, I will abide by the consensus.
There is a discussion of this concert with a source for it here on a different Queen forum:
http://www.queenconcerts.com/forum/read/2322-live-in-budapest.html
There is a discussion of this concert with a source for it here on a different Queen forum:
http://www.queenconcerts.com/forum/read/2322-live-in-budapest.html
MERQRY
I´ve a version of this gig that comes from a laser disc source and it has AWESOME quality, but i as i downloaded it years ago i can´t remember what version is...
i´d always wanna correct the speed of that version and make the final version of that gig (tought i can´t share here cause is official)
i´d always wanna correct the speed of that version and make the final version of that gig (tought i can´t share here cause is official)
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[QUOTE] [b]MERQRY wrote:[/b]
thought i can´t share here cause is official[/QUOTE]
Quite right, it is official and so of course no direct links should be shared here.
thought i can´t share here cause is official[/QUOTE]
Quite right, it is official and so of course no direct links should be shared here.
OwenSmith
[QUOTE] [b]kurgan100 wrote:[/b]
[url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg688/scaled.php?server=688&filename=pdvd000bg.png&res=medium]Menu[/url][/QUOTE]
OK that's the menu for the torrent I downloaded from my posting above. It's still not clear to me whether people believe this to be the best version or not, posting one word "Menu" with a url is rather less clear than it could be.
[url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg688/scaled.php?server=688&filename=pdvd000bg.png&res=medium]Menu[/url][/QUOTE]
OK that's the menu for the torrent I downloaded from my posting above. It's still not clear to me whether people believe this to be the best version or not, posting one word "Menu" with a url is rather less clear than it could be.
OwenSmith
[QUOTE] [b]kurgan100 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]MERQRY wrote:[/b]
thought i can´t share here cause is official[/QUOTE]
Quite right, it is official and so of course no direct links should be shared here.[/QUOTE]
It's official in an utterly obsolete format and with media which is only available on the second hand market. I cannot buy a brand new laserdisc player and I cannot buy a brand new copy of the laserdisc, even if I wanted to do. Also by making us search for them, none of us know if we have the same copies.
This rip is in what I deem to be the grey area. Someone suggested I download a rip of the 2011 remaster of Queen II but because it is currently available I simply bought it. Stuff that was never available like bootlegs is similarly easy to categorise. Stuff that was available but is now obsolete and deleted is harder to classify.
If Queen Productions sold this as a commercial DVD I'd be the first to delete my downloaded rip and buy the official version.
[QUOTE] [b]MERQRY wrote:[/b]
thought i can´t share here cause is official[/QUOTE]
Quite right, it is official and so of course no direct links should be shared here.[/QUOTE]
It's official in an utterly obsolete format and with media which is only available on the second hand market. I cannot buy a brand new laserdisc player and I cannot buy a brand new copy of the laserdisc, even if I wanted to do. Also by making us search for them, none of us know if we have the same copies.
This rip is in what I deem to be the grey area. Someone suggested I download a rip of the 2011 remaster of Queen II but because it is currently available I simply bought it. Stuff that was never available like bootlegs is similarly easy to categorise. Stuff that was available but is now obsolete and deleted is harder to classify.
If Queen Productions sold this as a commercial DVD I'd be the first to delete my downloaded rip and buy the official version.
OwenSmith
[QUOTE] [b]MERQRY wrote:[/b]
I´ve a version of this gig that comes from a laser disc source and it has AWESOME quality, but i as i downloaded it years ago i can´t remember what version is...i´d always wanna correct the speed of that version and make the final version of that gig (tought i can´t share here cause is official)[/QUOTE]
Can you share a still frame of the top level menu so we'd at least know if we've got the same version?
I´ve a version of this gig that comes from a laser disc source and it has AWESOME quality, but i as i downloaded it years ago i can´t remember what version is...i´d always wanna correct the speed of that version and make the final version of that gig (tought i can´t share here cause is official)[/QUOTE]
Can you share a still frame of the top level menu so we'd at least know if we've got the same version?
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[QUOTE] [b]OwenSmith wrote:[/b]
If Queen Productions sold this as a commercial DVD I'd be the first to delete my downloaded rip and buy the official version.[/QUOTE]
Me too, but that still doesn't make it any less official in my eyes.
If Queen Productions sold this as a commercial DVD I'd be the first to delete my downloaded rip and buy the official version.[/QUOTE]
Me too, but that still doesn't make it any less official in my eyes.
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[QUOTE] [b]OwenSmith wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]kurgan100 wrote:[/b]
[url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg688/scaled.php?server=688&filename=pdvd000bg.png&res=medium]Menu[/url][/QUOTE]
OK that's the menu for the torrent I downloaded from my posting above. It's still not clear to me whether people believe this to be the best version or not, posting one word "Menu" with a url is rather less clear than it could be.[/QUOTE]
In the versions I have seen so far, I consider this the best.
Perhaps others may have a different opinion.
I hope this is more clear to you now.
[QUOTE] [b]kurgan100 wrote:[/b]
[url=http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg688/scaled.php?server=688&filename=pdvd000bg.png&res=medium]Menu[/url][/QUOTE]
OK that's the menu for the torrent I downloaded from my posting above. It's still not clear to me whether people believe this to be the best version or not, posting one word "Menu" with a url is rather less clear than it could be.[/QUOTE]
In the versions I have seen so far, I consider this the best.
Perhaps others may have a different opinion.
I hope this is more clear to you now.