[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
Take away Pearl Harbor and it was the Americans who struck first against the Japanese.[/QUOTE]
Yes, but not the atom bombs. The reason why the Japanese were upset was because the US was shipping weapons to China throughout the 30s.
Despite what they teach American kids in the school system - Pearl Harbour was not unprovoked.
Carry on :-)[/QUOTE]
The things they teach you aren't too complete either, Bob. The reason the US was shipping weapons to China, was because Japan had been illegally annexing Chinese territory since the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-05. There was a very realistic fear that both China and Russia could have been defeated by Japan, likely resulting in continent-wide civil war, which would serve to further destabilize the already beaten British, Dutch and French empires.
If you want to call Pearl Harbour a 'provoked' attack, you can do so, but not with this argument. The only valid argument for that is that technically, an American battleship (a destroyer I think) engaged Japanese naval vessels shortly before the attack was launched (an hour or two, I believe).
I understand that you don't like the saintly image of the U.S. that was created in the Cold War, but don't try and turn the Japanese into victims - the citizens were, the leadership most definitely wasn't. The beastly cruelty of the Japanese empire between 1904 and 1945 is no less horrendous than nazi atrocities. The main difference is that Japanese cruelty wasn't directed at specific ethnic groups.
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