Queen Extravaganza

I can't help but voice the obvious here and I'm sure its been said before. IF you want to go hear Queens songs live and LOUD then Martel joining Bri and Rog would be my choice! If Bri and Rog wanna write new stuff then fine, do it with PR or AL or whoever. Personally it is so VERY not disrespectful to Freddie to showcase his music and voice through Martel. In fact it's quite the opposite allowing people to go hear it live and hear someone who can do Freddies voice some justice even though no one on the planet could be exact. The other thing Martel does is introduce Queens "sound" to the younger generation LIVE. He wont have the stage presence nor be the showman Freddie was yet, from what I see he's doing great, I applaude him. I wish for the old tunes to be carried forward, for the younger kids to grow to love them and keep it going. I see QE as very intrumental in doing this. Hey, I love live music. I would go hear great country band live but would not listen to a country radio station or purchase a country cd. Point is, if you want pure unadulterated Queen, then listen to a cd...if you want a live and loud Queen experience then QE is the best and Martel plus Roger and Brian would be sold out world wide.

Missreclusive:
Queen Extravaganza is good thing. I have absolutely no problem with that project. I would have a problem with big cooperation Brian & Roger with Martel. By the words big cooperation I mean regular touring or recording, suggestions to regular project ala QPR with Marc Martel are disrespectful to Freddie IMO.

[QUOTE] [b]ptr wrote:[/b]
Im not posting here a lot of comments, but I have to say, that I think the ideas about Brian and Roger touring with Marc Martel are very disrespectful to Freddie... And I think that its sad to read that on fans forum!My point of view:1.) When you are accepting this guy (and he is very good singer!) as the one who is the closest to Freddie and that he is able to sing that stuff "almost like Freddie" (which is nonsense - in fact, that TSMGO you linked here is miles miles away behind the studio original and miles away behind Pauls version from Sheffield IMO) - then it means that you are even able to accept "almost uknown guy" as replace of one of greatest music star ever. Its like admiting "he is not the only one", because you are able to "accept him" in Freddie´s position because you hear similarities (which are NOT there - but you wish them to be there!).... In my point of view, Freddie is absolutely irreplaceable - his singing is absolutely unique.[/QUOTE]

If you can not hear similiarities between Freddie Mercury and Marc Martel I have to question your will to hear it. You probably don't want to. Their voices have obvious similiaties in certain areas. Sometimes its just like hearing Freddie. I have never heard anyone being this similar before to be honest.

[QUOTE] [b]Another Roger (re) wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]ptr wrote:[/b]
Im not posting here a lot of comments, but I have to say, that I think the ideas about Brian and Roger touring with Marc Martel are very disrespectful to Freddie... And I think that its sad to read that on fans forum!My point of view:1.) When you are accepting this guy (and he is very good singer!) as the one who is the closest to Freddie and that he is able to sing that stuff "almost like Freddie" (which is nonsense - in fact, that TSMGO you linked here is miles miles away behind the studio original and miles away behind Pauls version from Sheffield IMO) - then it means that you are even able to accept "almost uknown guy" as replace of one of greatest music star ever. Its like admiting "he is not the only one", because you are able to "accept him" in Freddie´s position because you hear similarities (which are NOT there - but you wish them to be there!).... In my point of view, Freddie is absolutely irreplaceable - his singing is absolutely unique.[/QUOTE]
If you can not hear similiarities between Freddie Mercury and Marc Martel I have to question your will to hear it. You probably don't want to. Their voices have obvious similiaties in certain areas. Sometimes its just like hearing Freddie. I have never heard anyone being this similar before to be honest.
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I agree. Anyone who doesn't hear it, doesn't want to. Freddie was and still is so loved and missed. I'm very excited to get to experience QE. I also feel that Martel is very respectful to Freddie's memory. He's not trying to be Freddie but rather produce the sound so Q fans old and new can enjoy a live experience. I did see an interview with Roger where he addressed the Q cover bands saying most weren't good at all. So yes, I think he took it on to try to duplicate the live sound as close as possible. It's all about havin fun. I'm not a musician, nor an expert in any of this. I'm only a fan of all things Queen.

[QUOTE] [b]ptr wrote:[/b]
Missreclusive:
Queen Extravaganza is good thing. I have absolutely no problem with that project. I would have a problem with big cooperation Brian & Roger with Martel. By the words big cooperation I mean regular touring or recording, suggestions to regular project ala QPR with Marc Martel are disrespectful to Freddie IMO.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, I just don't get it? Do you think Freddie would be upset? I'm not sure I understand anyone being upset at all with any of it. I dislike AL and PR touring with them, would I go see them? Yes, to see Roger and Brian but I would LOVE to see Martel with them and hear something closer to Freddie. So, does your view make you more of a "purist" for all things Queen or is it my view that would dictate such?

[QUOTE] [b]ptr wrote:[/b]
Missreclusive:
Queen Extravaganza is good thing. I have absolutely no problem with that project. I would have a problem with big cooperation Brian & Roger with Martel. By the words big cooperation I mean regular touring or recording, suggestions to regular project ala QPR with Marc Martel are disrespectful to Freddie IMO.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, I just don't get it? Do you think Freddie would be upset? I'm not sure I understand anyone being upset at all with any of it. I dislike AL and PR touring with them, would I go see them? Yes, to see Roger and Brian but I would LOVE to see Martel with them and hear something closer to Freddie. So, does your view make you more of a "purist" for all things Queen or is it my view that would dictate such?

No - I dont know what would Freddie think about this so Im not trying to pretend that... :)

Easily:
- accepting anyone who is Freddie "lookalike" or "soundalike" for full cooperation with Brian and Roger is IMHO disrespectful to Freddie, because that simply "denies" that Freddie´s uniqueness. Noone REALLY sounds like him and its just a question when you will discover that... I think that Martel is great singer with great voice, but definately NOT 2nd Freddie, or "Freddie´s reincarnation"... I dont get that "looking for" Freddie´s reincarnation. He was unique and you will never find the 2nd Freddie with his voice. What totally annoyed me were the comments like that Mullen should cooperate with Brian and Roger, because he sounds like Freddie... Its simply NOT true, and the Martel is similar case. Listen to Martel´s voice stop the song in the middle, find Freddie´s live performance of the same song and start that track... I accept Martel in QE simply because he is great singer with nice voice, but I think that its like Mona Lisa in Louvre (Freddie´s work) compared to printed poster with the Mona Lisa (Marc Martel) and saying that the printed poster is similar to DaVincis work and its enough for me... Instead of that, you can get real art - for example Mona Lisa from Andy Warhol - Paul Rodgers.... Do you get it now? :)

Where can I sign your comment, Ptr? :-)

I don't know whether his voice's been strained by the previous gigs but he can't hit higher notes on SMGO and by the computer effect on his voice the staff tries to compensate it. When he goes for the most hard ones in the song then it's just a sheer shriek.
Otherwise it's very good performance :)

[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
This has to be awkward for Brian and Roger. They've committed to performing with some C-grade dope, and in the meantime they've got Martel singing his arse off over in Queen Extravaganza. The guy is really earning his keep. He deserves to be guesting with actual Queen.[/QUOTE]

100% behind this comment.

[QUOTE] [b]ptr wrote:[/b]
No - I dont know what would Freddie think about this so Im not trying to pretend that... :)
Easily:
- accepting anyone who is Freddie "lookalike" or "soundalike" for full cooperation with Brian and Roger is IMHO disrespectful to Freddie, because that simply "denies" that Freddie´s uniqueness. Noone REALLY sounds like him and its just a question when you will discover that... I think that Martel is great singer with great voice, but definately NOT 2nd Freddie, or "Freddie´s reincarnation"... I dont get that "looking for" Freddie´s reincarnation. He was unique and you will never find the 2nd Freddie with his voice. What totally annoyed me were the comments like that Mullen should cooperate with Brian and Roger, because he sounds like Freddie... Its simply NOT true, and the Martel is similar case. Listen to Martel´s voice stop the song in the middle, find Freddie´s live performance of the same song and start that track... I accept Martel in QE simply because he is great singer with nice voice, but I think that its like Mona Lisa in Louvre (Freddie´s work) compared to printed poster with the Mona Lisa (Marc Martel) and saying that the printed poster is similar to DaVincis work and its enough for me... Instead of that, you can get real art - for example Mona Lisa from Andy Warhol - Paul Rodgers.... Do you get it now? :)[/QUOTE]

Ok, yes, since you put it that way I do understand exactly what you're saying. So, this means that the younger generation who can never see the original Queen live should never get to see the closest thing? They also shouldn't see a poster of the Mona Lisa if they cant view the original? lol...ok, I'm splitting hairs here but hey! We all have an opinion and Martel is the best I've seen so far. Once again, if Roger and Brian want to do new music ..exit Freddie, then Paul or Adam can sing. If they want to run through the old stuff, I'm for Marc. I like hearing Martel, I tolerate Paul and will not tolerate Adam. I didn't like his voice or him when he was on AI.

Missreclusive:
Im "young" fan who never had a chance to see Queen with Freddie - I was born in 1986, but I would rather see Brian & Roger with legend than with singer who has no big career behind him... I want to see the best possible thing and that simply is not the same as "closest thing". ;) My opinion is, that the best possible thing was Q+PR or it would be cooperation Brian and Roger with another legend of similar league. And I really dont mean Lambert - its just matter of taste, I cant stand Lamberts voice. My opinion is, that there is one singer who would may be better even than PR, but its just my guess - John Farnham... his "live singing range" is even wider than Freddie´s but that means nothing - chemistry is needed and Im not sure that it would work.

To my commentary - Im not saying they should not see Mona Lisa on poster... They can, Mona Lisa on poster is Queen Extravaganza, but noone should pretend that you can put this poster into Louvre instead of Mona Lisa original - thats exactly what would be big cooperation Bri & Rog + Martel.

Yawn, yawn, yawn. It's not disrespectful to get a singer who can do the job. It would make a nice change for Brian and Roger to pick a guy who can do it (Martel) instead of someone who makes sense in the very short term (Lambert, whose shelf life really can't last that much longer). Lambert only made sense as a guest singer on a very superficial level. Amongst Idol viewers (whose standards are very bloody low) it might've seemed he has the right characteristics to handle Queen music, but really - it's a pipe dream. He has the range, but is the wrong man for the job, unequivocally. Singers have their elements. Kerry Ellis was probably great for WWRY, but she is not whatever it was that Brian tried to make her. And so she didn't take off like they probably hoped she would. It's not knocking her abilities to say so - that's just how it is.

Lambert's all wrong for Queen. That one song of his (basically "Can't Be Tamed" with different lyrics) is just barfworthy. Fucking get rid of him.

Now as for Marc Martel ... I don't think that one video of Show Must Go On is his finest work, but that's a motherfucker of a song to try and sing. Freddie himself would probably make the same number of vocal flubs, but we'd forgive him because he'd be giving it his absolute best - same as Martel. I'd rather hear that than listen to that warbling idiot Adam "It's All About Me" Lambert. Marc's been distinguishing himself, not in ridiculous TV appearances with an out-of-control vibrato that makes him sound like a lamb being rogered by a hippo - but in real touring conditions with a real band. Marc's earned the job, I just hope the hell Brian and Roger wake up and give it to him.

Disrespectful to Freddie? What the hell are you smoking? This is the first time since Freddie's died that they have a singer who is willing, ready and able to do the job to a standard that meets the real thing - and you think it'd be disrespectful?

Stick your head in a bucket or something.

Beautiful Zebonka12. I fully agree with you. How the hell can it be disrespectful to have singer that has the ability and tone to sing queensongs. His voice makes me feel like its Queen. Rodgers made me feel that it was a Paul Rodgers solo tour with Brian and Roger as backing. It will be the same with Lambert. We dont want that? Queen music needs a singer with a certain colour and feeling in the voice. This will never ever happen again. Brian and Roger: You have the chance now, but soon its gone.

Queen is scheduled to perform at the 2012 Olympic ceremonies, probably the closing event and not the opener...

Closing would be August.

I really hope they are considering bringing some element of the QE to their Olympic show.

They've talked about PR, and AL is out there, but I think the biggest WOW would come from Marc Martel doing at least a few of the show stoppers, Love of My Life, Bohemian, Show Must Go On, etc. Even JSS and Marc on Under Pressure would be a highlight.

They wouldn't necessarily have to be the only 'Band unit' as they could still have a PR and or AL be there if they felt it would be fine... But I think QE would be the best option.