[QUOTE] [b]Over the Field wrote:[/b]
I am not against his singing but he can't handle the rocker songs of Queen. I could never imagine him singing songs like The Hitman, Gimme the Prize or Son and Daughter. His voice isn't as diverse as Freddie's, and it would never fit to those kind of songs.[/QUOTE]
You roll all Freddie eras into one and compare it with Martel. That is very unfair. Freddie Mercury in 1975 could not sing Hitman like he did in 1991. His voice changed a lot during the career. He lost a lot of range in the 80s, what he got though was power. Marc Martel is like a 1977 version of Freddie Mercury.
AdamMethos · Member since
Based on One Vision on the QE tour, the Bo Rhap vid on YouTube where he sings the rock part, and doing WWRY with his own band (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_iMiVVCPlg from 0:40-2:00), I think he can handle the rocker songs vocally.
He just needs work on the attitude/swagger to perform rocker songs convincingly.
Gregsynth · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Another Roger (re) wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Over the Field wrote:[/b]
I am not against his singing but he can't handle the rocker songs of Queen. I could never imagine him singing songs like The Hitman, Gimme the Prize or Son and Daughter. His voice isn't as diverse as Freddie's, and it would never fit to those kind of songs.[/QUOTE]
You roll all Freddie eras into one and compare it with Martel. That is very unfair. Freddie Mercury in 1975 could not sing Hitman like he did in 1991. His voice changed a lot during the career. He lost a lot of range in the 80s, what he got though was power. Marc Martel is like a 1977 version of Freddie Mercury.
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He actually had a larger range in the 80s than the 70s. After 1979, he developed a stronger "mixed" voice that allowed him to have access to his higher register more easily.
Over the Field · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Another Roger (re) wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Over the Field wrote:[/b]
I am not against his singing but he can't handle the rocker songs of Queen. I could never imagine him singing songs like The Hitman, Gimme the Prize or Son and Daughter. His voice isn't as diverse as Freddie's, and it would never fit to those kind of songs.[/QUOTE]
You roll all Freddie eras into one and compare it with Martel. That is very unfair. Freddie Mercury in 1975 could not sing Hitman like he did in 1991. His voice changed a lot during the career. He lost a lot of range in the 80s, what he got though was power. Marc Martel is like a 1977 version of Freddie Mercury.
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He actually had a larger range in the 80s than the 70s. After 1979, he developed a stronger "mixed" voice that allowed him to have access to his higher register more easily.[/QUOTE]
That's right. In the 80s Freddie used less falsetto for highs because he was able to sing them with the modal voice.
Another Roger (re) · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Another Roger (re) wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Over the Field wrote:[/b]
I am not against his singing but he can't handle the rocker songs of Queen. I could never imagine him singing songs like The Hitman, Gimme the Prize or Son and Daughter. His voice isn't as diverse as Freddie's, and it would never fit to those kind of songs.[/QUOTE]
You roll all Freddie eras into one and compare it with Martel. That is very unfair. Freddie Mercury in 1975 could not sing Hitman like he did in 1991. His voice changed a lot during the career. He lost a lot of range in the 80s, what he got though was power. Marc Martel is like a 1977 version of Freddie Mercury.
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He actually had a larger range in the 80s than the 70s. After 1979, he developed a stronger "mixed" voice that allowed him to have access to his higher register more easily.[/QUOTE]
From 1984- 1986 Freddie really struggled live. He made a lot of compromises for the high notes. He had more power in the 80s, but he sounded much better live from 1975- 1982. Can we agree about that you think?
Anyways, Freddies voice changed a lot over the years. He lost something and gained something. But he could not to it all on the same time.
waunakonor · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
"I never understood what everyone has against his voice"
They haven't got anything against his voice. If you look closely, these people communicate with such a lot of hyperbole and bullshit that it's very likely they barely even listen to him. It's the idea they find objectionable. That's fair enough - we all have to choose how we spend our listening hours, and our reasons are our own.
It doesn't change the fact that good shows are being played and that audiences are leaving satisfied. So everyone's happy. Huzzah.[/QUOTE]
Ah, ok. I guess I don't see how Martel is any better or worse than a lot of other people, but I guess if people are generally happy, it doesn't really matter that much.
[QUOTE] [b]Over the Field wrote:[/b]
I am not against his singing but he can't handle the rocker songs of Queen. I could never imagine him singing songs like The Hitman, Gimme the Prize or Son and Daughter. His voice isn't as diverse as Freddie's, and it would never fit to those kind of songs.[/QUOTE]
I HIGHLY doubt he would ever have to sing any of those.
Gregsynth · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Another Roger (re) wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Another Roger (re) wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Over the Field wrote:[/b]
I am not against his singing but he can't handle the rocker songs of Queen. I could never imagine him singing songs like The Hitman, Gimme the Prize or Son and Daughter. His voice isn't as diverse as Freddie's, and it would never fit to those kind of songs.[/QUOTE]
You roll all Freddie eras into one and compare it with Martel. That is very unfair. Freddie Mercury in 1975 could not sing Hitman like he did in 1991. His voice changed a lot during the career. He lost a lot of range in the 80s, what he got though was power. Marc Martel is like a 1977 version of Freddie Mercury.
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He actually had a larger range in the 80s than the 70s. After 1979, he developed a stronger "mixed" voice that allowed him to have access to his higher register more easily.[/QUOTE]
From 1984- 1986 Freddie really struggled live. He made a lot of compromises for the high notes. He had more power in the 80s, but he sounded much better live from 1975- 1982. Can we agree about that you think?
Anyways, Freddies voice changed a lot over the years. He lost something and gained something. But he could not to it all on the same time.
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Freddie struggled on the Works Tour because he was excessively partying and doing studio work between legs. The Works Tour for the most part doesn't reflect Freddie's true live abilities (since he was really hit and miss on that tour). Live Aid has some of the best live vocals of his live career--he had access to his mixed voice register and sounded clean when he was hitting his higher notes. A 70s Freddie in a live setting (except maybe the Crazy Tour) would not be able to nail Bo Rhap like he did at Live Aid (he didn't have his technique defined yet). I only heard Freddie struggle on a few Magic Tour shows, but at least he was able to make notes that he either didn't hit in the 70s, or sing songs without dropping the octave (like "In The Lap Of The Gods...Revisited").
Gregsynth · Member since
As far as Freddie sounding better live in specific eras, it's more down to a listener preference than anything. Some people prefer his younger, more youthful 70s voice, some prefer his "prime live" vocals (late 1979 through mid 1982), and others like his more powerful voice from the mid 80s!
If you want my take on his live vocals, I think his best era was most of the shows from the Prime Live era, the 1978 NOTW tour, Live Aid, and most of the Magic Tour has some of his best live singing.
dowens · Member since
Marc can sing. I've been listening to his Christian band "Downhere" and he's great. Roger and Brian should do some recordings with him in the studio.
AdamMethos · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dowens wrote:[/b]
Marc can sing. I've been listening to his Christian band "Downhere" and he's great. Roger and Brian should do some recordings with him in the studio.[/QUOTE]
What do you think are the most Queenish Downhere songs? Of the songs I've heard, the ones that are Queenish in style are:
- Remember Me (the chorus only)
- My Last Amen (great melody)
- Good King Wencesles (wonderfully quirky arrangement of the Christmas carol)
- Let Me Rediscover You
The ones that have parts with Freddie-ish vocals are:
- The More
- Surrender (chorus and bridge)
- You're Not Alone (chorus and bridge)
- Let Me Rediscover You
Another Roger (re) · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]AdamMethos wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]dowens wrote:[/b]
Marc can sing. I've been listening to his Christian band "Downhere" and he's great. Roger and Brian should do some recordings with him in the studio.[/QUOTE]
What do you think are the most Queenish Downhere songs? Of the songs I've heard, the ones that are Queenish in style are:
- Remember Me (the chorus only)
- My Last Amen (great melody)
- Good King Wencesles (wonderfully quirky arrangement of the Christmas carol)
- Let Me Rediscover You
The ones that have parts with Freddie-ish vocals are:
- The More
- Surrender (chorus and bridge)
- You're Not Alone (chorus and bridge)
- Let Me Rediscover You[/QUOTE]
Search for a song called "audience" on Spotify. That is a great song, and the vocals is awsome :)
AdamMethos · Member since
Oh yeah! I saw Audience Song on YT. Totally quirky-Queenish. It's the only Downhere song that I could actually imagine Queen doing if Freddie was still alive. Not to mention, in this particular vid of it, MM really sounds (unintentionally?) like Freddie on the last line:
