[COVERS] ANNOUNCE: Queen Extravaganza - Edmonton, AB, Canada - 2012/07/03

Why would I want to downsample it? I'd just play the 48/24 direct on my Squeezebox, it's a native format it supports. I could also play it on my Oppo 95 blu ray player over DLNA, again 48/24 is supported natively.

EDIT: If you know you're going to distribute as 44.1 then why not record in it? I can see recording 24 bit and then reducing to 16 bit later to have less to worry about with recording levels, but surely you should be recording in the sample rate you intend to distribute at to avoid a sample rate conversion?

I'm not going to get into an argument with you over this. I'll refer The Great Wizard to take over here...

I'm looking for an explanation not an argument. For example, will the equipment you have not record in 44.1? If it won't but you believe in distributing in 44.1 then that would be a reason for doing what you've done. Not a reason I'd particularly agree with, but a reason nontheless.

How much more explanation do I have to give you?? Seriously dude, MOST people that download bootlegs want to be able to burn them to CD right off the bat, and not everyone has the capacity to deal with altering the samplerate. Basically in other words, it's more out of convenience for the general average users out there!

I didn't realise there are a significant number of people that burn them to CDs. Everyone I know (literally everyone) either plays them on something like the Squeezebox or on portable media players. CD has completely died in my circle of friends and acquantainces.

The CDR is becoming obsolete. Myself, I haven't burned a concert CDR in years. I back up my FLAC files to Japanese-made DVD-Rs. Guaranteed for life.

I'm all in favour of maintaining quality as it was recorded, out of sheer principle. Most software can handle the various bit rates and sample rates now. It's becoming the norm. But the iPood only understands 16/44 WAV files, so it's a bit of a chore to do the conversion if you want to listen to something on the road.

So it's admirable on some level to consider those who do still want the standard 16/44, for CDR or otherwise. But similar to the FLAC/MP3 situation, if someone wants to do dither it down, ideally it should come down to choice. Sharing in 16/44 eliminates that choice. Weedwacker has solved this problem on Dime - he shares both.

There, I'm not picking any sides :-)

I wasn't asking anyone to take sides. I was simply trying to find out why the share is in 16/44.1 when the recording was in 24/48.

I note the phrase "a properly dithered down 16/44". Sharing the 24/48 eliminates any possible problems with the dithering.

The other equipment I know of which can only do 16/44.1 is the Sonos multi room wireless system. This is why I didn't buy it, I preferred the Squeezebox's flexibility.

Queenzone's gone mad! I've received 20 emails in the last two minutes saying this thread has been updated (all pointing at Real Wizard's posting). And the web site hasn't even ticked the box saying I'm subscribed to this thread!

Welcome to Queenzone - bugs and all.

These days it's pretty much just the bugs.

thank you very much

I've now listened to this and it's pretty darned good. All the singers are considerably better than Adam Lambert. I just wish they'd let the woman (Jennifer Espinoza?) sing lead on more songs, I've always thought that Freddie's vocal range suits a contralto.

The guitarist(s) was probably the weakest here, but serviceable. The drummer is good and the bass player seems better than most of the replacements Queen have used for John Deacon.

It was also nice to not have half the songs drowned out by Spike Edney's synths. The Q+AL "Love of my Life" was ruined by synths all the way through, it's supposed to be a duet between singer(s) (including the audience) and Brian in a Queen concert (though Extravangza play it like the album version).

It did take me a few tracks to accept the fact that Extravaganza is not an attempt to replicate a Queen concert and most of the tracks are more like the album versions. But once I'd mentally accepted that I really got into it. And there were at least a few sing alongs.

I was disappointed in the setlist only for the lack of I Want to Break Free and the National Anthem at the end. Otherwise the set list is fantastic, shame Black Queen and Liar were only tasters.

The audio quality is a bit spoiled by very heavy bass with some boom (probably the recorder's position in the hall) and some obvious gain pumping. Presumably that's some sort of limiter on the recording device, and the recorder does document that he had to improvise the mics. But it's still better than many 70s and 80s era tapes and much better than not having the concert.

Thank you!

PS. Are Extravaganza coming to the UK? I'd rather see this than Q+AL (which I didn't see).

I Want to Break Free was on the setlist. Did you mix it up with another song? Seven Seas of Rhye was done at a few of the early concerts but it was replaced with The Show Must Go On.

I have heard murmurings that Roger wants to take QE to Europe but I have no idea whether the source is someone in a position to know or just fan wishful thinking.

Jeff Scott Soto (one of the QE singers) said in an interview that his theory is that Roger wanted to start QE in the U.S. because he knew it would be a harder sell given Queen's history in the U.S., and that if QE is successful in the U.S., Roger figures that it will be an even bigger hit internationally.

For audio quality, check out the QE Philly concert which was also posted here. That's the best quality QE bootleg I've heard so far!

I'll look for the Philly concert, thanks for the tip.

I may have been wrong about I Want to Break Free not being in, I see it's on the set list. It's pretty early, I was still getting my head round what this was about at that point.