[QUOTE]The difference being that the first three articles in list I linked to all cite sources on sexual abuse in the Catholic church, the oldest citations dating to around 1960. Evidently, you don't read.[/QUOTE]
As predicted.
(Satire ON)Thank you for your 3 articles. I had heard about sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, I just didn't know anyone had written any articles about it.(Satire OFF)
a worthless link and now the personal attack. Evidently, I don't read. Fair enough, I don't need to read your 3 articles, because they're not relevant to your argument. However, I seem to be an excellent judge of character. I was able to correctly predict your course of action on this thread and more. Carry on, TQ,
thomasquinn 32989 · Member since
You people are defending the undefendable, and are trying to cover it up by opening a new front, which I am not falling for.
As you are perfectly well aware, there is no statistical evidence of sexual abuse in any group because, surprise, surprise, most perpetrators and victims don't actually report it for counting.
Therefore, you have to find some other measure to compare situations. The number of official inquiries, or university papers, or newspaper reports, or a host of other things, could be used, each with varying degrees of precision and reliability.
I am not going to argue with you any further, as I never wanted to go into this bullshit to begin with.
I stand by the original point I was making before we were so oddly diverted, namely that it is pretty disturbing to yell "do it about the Muslims instead!" every time something unfriendly to Christianity appears.
Micrówave · Member since
Yes, you probably should have stopped right there, if even that.
GratefulFan · Member since
What a crock. You should be ashamed of yourself Thomas. An accusation of "defending the indefensible" is the last refuge of lazy, incompetent thinkers and religious bigots everywhere on this topic. The only thing I'm defending is the self evident principle that bad facts make for bad conclusions, and that bad conclusions seldom contribute much to optimal action. I think the fact that there is every indication that the tragic misperception of priorities that benefited the Church at the expense of victims continues to play out over and over again in other organizations parallel to these terrible and very public scandals indicates that we have to seriously consider that we've missed something important. That the energy that's been applied to making the world a stupider, less informed and more blindly outraged place has cost us an opportunity to achieve something more. You'd apparently rather indulge your cavalier prejudice to the point of genuine absurdity. There is plenty of statistical evidence Thomas. That a crime is under reported does not mean that the information we do have has no value. Law enforcement, civil judgements, child protection agencies, insurance underwriters, extensive and meticulous files and histories made public by the Church itself and studied, educated estimates all contribute to a very real record with very real information about the crime of child sexual abuse across society. Seriously, you're either a bit of a moron or so flush with entitlement to your sloppiness with a serious issue because it involves an institution that you personally seem to hold in low regard that you're a little irrational. If I were more religious I'd pray for you. LOL.
Donna13 · Member since
Thomas tends to conveniently misinterpret comments, just to have an excuse to spout off. If we could create a thread called "Lecture of the Day" some of us might enjoy adding to it. Ha. Anyway, I think you should always leave your opponent with some wiggle room or face saving options. I haven't seen the video. But I bet Madonna is somehow jealous she didn't think of it first - whatever it was.
Look, I'm Christian and I really should be offended by the content of this alleged "song" but it's too deliberate and low-brow to be offensive in content.
Nay, I'm rather offended by the utter lack of musical talent on display here. A monkey scratching it's ass on a tree creates a better sound than your cursed vocal chords