AlexRocks
I don't think he should be coming out with a solo l.p. at this time. Joining Queen for a tour sounds right though. I am just saying.
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Missreclusive
LOL@Zebonka. How to disagree with the obvious? ethanol..lol. So true Z. Couldn't agree with you more.
AdamMethos
[QUOTE] [b]AlexRocks wrote:[/b]
I don't think he should be coming out with a solo l.p. at this time. Joining Queen for a tour sounds right though. I am just saying.
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I think he started the solo stuff before getting swept up in the whole QE thing. When I was asking him about it, his demeanor wasn't like "I am SO TOTALLY putting out a solo album next year!" It was more like "I guess I can work on my solo album next year..." But he doesn't seem to be an overtly excitable guy, so maybe he's more enthusiastic about it on the inside LOL.
I don't think he should be coming out with a solo l.p. at this time. Joining Queen for a tour sounds right though. I am just saying.
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I think he started the solo stuff before getting swept up in the whole QE thing. When I was asking him about it, his demeanor wasn't like "I am SO TOTALLY putting out a solo album next year!" It was more like "I guess I can work on my solo album next year..." But he doesn't seem to be an overtly excitable guy, so maybe he's more enthusiastic about it on the inside LOL.
winterspelt
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
"I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel"
This is a joke, right?
He didn't run around in a yellow jacket, he didn't do the mic stand thing - I swear to Christ, some people on this forum must be drinking fuckin' ethanol or something. I've never seen such a case of someone being punished for being too good at his job, hahaha.[/QUOTE]
So, a yellow jacket and a mic stand its all Marc Martel needs to imitate Freddie?
Let's see... It doesnt matter if Marc wears (or not) a yellow jacket, a superman tshirt etc... Marc Martel sings all the songs note by note, trying to do (with certain amounts of success most of the times) a vibrato close to Freddie, using the same notes Freddie used etc, even when he (Martel) can use his own vibrato (which is different than the one he use in QE) and he can even try to change some notes, but no, he imitates Freddie using Freddie's vibrato, notes etc, even when its not his style. When someone changes his/her style to fit someone else's, he/she becomes an imitator, perhaps not the kind of imitator of another bands but still imitator, which is different from someone who plays a cover as a tribute.
You can see it in the QE guitar players: They play the songs but at the same time they are using their own personal style while playing: They are not Brian imitators.
Im not interested in being part of an internet ad hominen attack, something that it appears is very popular all over the net (and used a lot by a few members in this forum as well) but the "I swear to Christ, some people on this forum must be drinking fuckin' ethanol or something" quote is totally irrelevant to my previous post.
You may or may not agree with me, but ad hominen arguments are pretty much useless.
"I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel"
This is a joke, right?
He didn't run around in a yellow jacket, he didn't do the mic stand thing - I swear to Christ, some people on this forum must be drinking fuckin' ethanol or something. I've never seen such a case of someone being punished for being too good at his job, hahaha.[/QUOTE]
So, a yellow jacket and a mic stand its all Marc Martel needs to imitate Freddie?
Let's see... It doesnt matter if Marc wears (or not) a yellow jacket, a superman tshirt etc... Marc Martel sings all the songs note by note, trying to do (with certain amounts of success most of the times) a vibrato close to Freddie, using the same notes Freddie used etc, even when he (Martel) can use his own vibrato (which is different than the one he use in QE) and he can even try to change some notes, but no, he imitates Freddie using Freddie's vibrato, notes etc, even when its not his style. When someone changes his/her style to fit someone else's, he/she becomes an imitator, perhaps not the kind of imitator of another bands but still imitator, which is different from someone who plays a cover as a tribute.
You can see it in the QE guitar players: They play the songs but at the same time they are using their own personal style while playing: They are not Brian imitators.
Im not interested in being part of an internet ad hominen attack, something that it appears is very popular all over the net (and used a lot by a few members in this forum as well) but the "I swear to Christ, some people on this forum must be drinking fuckin' ethanol or something" quote is totally irrelevant to my previous post.
You may or may not agree with me, but ad hominen arguments are pretty much useless.
qz08927
"He didn't run around in a yellow jacket, he didn't do the mic stand thing "
IMO
He should have.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING
NEXT TIM RICE
IMO
He should have.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING
NEXT TIM RICE
qz08927
[QUOTE] [b]YAFF wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]
Im usually happy when the Brian and Roger play with another people, but I kind of feel very wrong that they will play with a Freddie imitator...
While I do accept the fact that Martel can sing (I saw QE live) I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel.[/QUOTE]
A Freddie sound-a-like is a new low. I frickin' hate Roger & Brian anyway.
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Marc can sing like Freddie already
So dont worry cos everythings allright
sacha baron cohen is learning to sing like Freddie
concentrate on that thought and expend some internet energy
on that thought.
Buit dont let it worry you.
Remember Jamie Fox, he turned himself into a black man to play Ray Charles, so have hope, cos nothing is impossible.
[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]
Im usually happy when the Brian and Roger play with another people, but I kind of feel very wrong that they will play with a Freddie imitator...
While I do accept the fact that Martel can sing (I saw QE live) I hope that Martel stop pretending to be Freddie Mercury and act like Marc Martel.[/QUOTE]
A Freddie sound-a-like is a new low. I frickin' hate Roger & Brian anyway.
[/QUOTE]
Marc can sing like Freddie already
So dont worry cos everythings allright
sacha baron cohen is learning to sing like Freddie
concentrate on that thought and expend some internet energy
on that thought.
Buit dont let it worry you.
Remember Jamie Fox, he turned himself into a black man to play Ray Charles, so have hope, cos nothing is impossible.
AdamMethos
Double post. Bleh.
AdamMethos
[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]
Marc Martel sings all the songs note by note, trying to do (with certain amounts of success most of the times) a vibrato close to Freddie, using the same notes Freddie used etc, even when he (Martel) can use his own vibrato (which is different than the one he use in QE) and he can even try to change some notes, but no, he imitates Freddie using Freddie's vibrato, notes etc, even when its not his style. When someone changes his/her style to fit someone else's, he/she becomes an imitator, perhaps not the kind of imitator of another bands but still imitator, which is different from someone who plays a cover as a tribute.
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Y'know, maybe Roger directed him to sing exactly like Freddie? The other QE singers also sing the album versions on almost all of the songs but it's just not as noticeable because their voices sound nothing like Freddie's.
Someone did a comparison of the QE and Queen versions of Don't Stop Me Now and even the girl in QE is singing the song note-for-note and inflection-by-inflection just like Freddie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xvf1wifRR0
QE's version of Love Of My Life has a very different arrangement from how Queen did it on the album and in concerts. And Marc's performance of it doesn't match any performance of Freddie's that I could find. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Somebody To Love is the other song that had some big changes done to it for QE and Marc sung that somewhat differently than Freddie at the beginning of the QE tour and waaaaay differently than Freddie by the end of the QE tour. And here he is singing it this past Thursday with his own band -- definitely not a Freddie-mimicking performance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxzySKCGXlk
Marc Martel sings all the songs note by note, trying to do (with certain amounts of success most of the times) a vibrato close to Freddie, using the same notes Freddie used etc, even when he (Martel) can use his own vibrato (which is different than the one he use in QE) and he can even try to change some notes, but no, he imitates Freddie using Freddie's vibrato, notes etc, even when its not his style. When someone changes his/her style to fit someone else's, he/she becomes an imitator, perhaps not the kind of imitator of another bands but still imitator, which is different from someone who plays a cover as a tribute.
[/QUOTE]
Y'know, maybe Roger directed him to sing exactly like Freddie? The other QE singers also sing the album versions on almost all of the songs but it's just not as noticeable because their voices sound nothing like Freddie's.
Someone did a comparison of the QE and Queen versions of Don't Stop Me Now and even the girl in QE is singing the song note-for-note and inflection-by-inflection just like Freddie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xvf1wifRR0
QE's version of Love Of My Life has a very different arrangement from how Queen did it on the album and in concerts. And Marc's performance of it doesn't match any performance of Freddie's that I could find. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Somebody To Love is the other song that had some big changes done to it for QE and Marc sung that somewhat differently than Freddie at the beginning of the QE tour and waaaaay differently than Freddie by the end of the QE tour. And here he is singing it this past Thursday with his own band -- definitely not a Freddie-mimicking performance!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxzySKCGXlk
Tarabostes
AdamMethos
Civil reply for civil reply, MM is not bad, especially when he sings Nessun Dorma, an aria which I suspect he couldn't sing without professional advice and help.The only thing that separates us is whom we prefer as Queen vocalist, a controversial guest singer or a guest singer endowed with the ability to mimic voices, as he himself said. Or are we worlds apart?
Civil reply for civil reply, MM is not bad, especially when he sings Nessun Dorma, an aria which I suspect he couldn't sing without professional advice and help.The only thing that separates us is whom we prefer as Queen vocalist, a controversial guest singer or a guest singer endowed with the ability to mimic voices, as he himself said. Or are we worlds apart?
Missreclusive
MM is not only "not bad" ...he is terrific! I seriously think there is something wrong with you naysayers hearing. Along comes the absolute perfect dude to sing Queen legacy, perfect in so many ways. Ditto again on Zebonkas comment both here and on the other thread. Marc Martel deserves to sing with them, he has the talent and has earned it. How many of you could do it?
Tarabostes
Missreclusive
Yeah, something is definitely wrong, we have personal preferences, different taste, expectations,
interests, lives, cosmos...and parts beyond... .
I suppose the question in the end doesn't expect an answer!
Yeah, something is definitely wrong, we have personal preferences, different taste, expectations,
interests, lives, cosmos...and parts beyond... .
I suppose the question in the end doesn't expect an answer!
pipijolk
[QUOTE]
[b]Missreclusive wrote: [/b] MM is not only "not bad" ...he is terrific! I seriously think there is something wrong with you naysayers hearing. Along comes the absolute perfect dude to sing Queen legacy, perfect in so many ways. Ditto again on Zebonkas comment both here and on the other thread. Marc Martel deserves to sing with them, he has the talent and has earned it. How many of you could do it?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Miss R, I understand all the personal preference opinions and such, most QE concert goers have given the show a resounding stamp of approval per the listed reviews at Ticketmaster and Live Nation.
Personal tastes, Marc has the voice I want to hear singing the songs, in a live setting. I want to close my eyes and be able to [b]almost[/b] have the feeling that I am immersed in a 1970s Queen gig. I think Marc's voice fits the songs more than adequately, compared to say AL.
Now we can all split hairs about what "adequately" means or what "almost" means, but for me, I don't see any downside to Marc performing with Brian and Roger, and I don't know how some get so worked up about it to the point where they're steaming with a boiling rage.
As far as Marc hitting the same notes, I think that was the point, as they explained during the show, Roger wants to recreate the studio sound of Queen on stage, something they never were able to accomplish back in the early days. It makes sense to start off with the studio rendition and perhaps then, as they become more experienced and comfortable with the music, add in a little personal flair.
[b]Missreclusive wrote: [/b] MM is not only "not bad" ...he is terrific! I seriously think there is something wrong with you naysayers hearing. Along comes the absolute perfect dude to sing Queen legacy, perfect in so many ways. Ditto again on Zebonkas comment both here and on the other thread. Marc Martel deserves to sing with them, he has the talent and has earned it. How many of you could do it?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Miss R, I understand all the personal preference opinions and such, most QE concert goers have given the show a resounding stamp of approval per the listed reviews at Ticketmaster and Live Nation.
Personal tastes, Marc has the voice I want to hear singing the songs, in a live setting. I want to close my eyes and be able to [b]almost[/b] have the feeling that I am immersed in a 1970s Queen gig. I think Marc's voice fits the songs more than adequately, compared to say AL.
Now we can all split hairs about what "adequately" means or what "almost" means, but for me, I don't see any downside to Marc performing with Brian and Roger, and I don't know how some get so worked up about it to the point where they're steaming with a boiling rage.
As far as Marc hitting the same notes, I think that was the point, as they explained during the show, Roger wants to recreate the studio sound of Queen on stage, something they never were able to accomplish back in the early days. It makes sense to start off with the studio rendition and perhaps then, as they become more experienced and comfortable with the music, add in a little personal flair.
Missreclusive
Pipijolk
You are dead on. I too want to do as I did watching QE, close my eyes and feel surrounded and immersed in that lovely sound we all miss.. live! It was such an awesome experience. AL offended me, the way he sounded singing songs I love, then add the visual assault. To me Marc is so balanced and when I watch him I get the feeling he loves the songs and is so wanting to express that to his audience. I loved watching his latest STL that Adam posted, a perfect example of Marc adding his own flair to it with a lot of feeling but keeping with the songs integrity. I want to hear him do so so much more of the back catalogue, a dream come true for me. Thank you Z and Pipi and Adam for expressing in the thread what I think, you guys do it far better than I do!
You are dead on. I too want to do as I did watching QE, close my eyes and feel surrounded and immersed in that lovely sound we all miss.. live! It was such an awesome experience. AL offended me, the way he sounded singing songs I love, then add the visual assault. To me Marc is so balanced and when I watch him I get the feeling he loves the songs and is so wanting to express that to his audience. I loved watching his latest STL that Adam posted, a perfect example of Marc adding his own flair to it with a lot of feeling but keeping with the songs integrity. I want to hear him do so so much more of the back catalogue, a dream come true for me. Thank you Z and Pipi and Adam for expressing in the thread what I think, you guys do it far better than I do!
AlexRocks
AdamMethos that was funny. Lol.
AdamMethos
[QUOTE] [b]Tarabostes wrote:[/b]
Civil reply for civil reply, MM is not bad, especially when he sings Nessun Dorma, an aria which I suspect he couldn't sing without professional advice and help.The only thing that separates us is whom we prefer as Queen vocalist, a controversial guest singer or a guest singer endowed with the ability to mimic voices, as he himself said. Or are we worlds apart?[/QUOTE]
Nope, I agree with you. After a certain minimum level of singing ability, I think it's all just personal preference whether someone prefers one singer over another. Being the best technical singer with the biggest range, etc., doesn't mean squat to anyone except a small cadre of vocal experts who like to dissect singing to the Nth degree.
It's like those scifi nerd battles over which is better, Star Trek or Star Wars. People who are firmly in one camp or the other will NEVER be swayed. Many people like both. Others hate both. Then there are those who say the new Battlestar Galactica beats both of them. Period. LOL.
I like MM because I love the Queen sound and his voice takes me Freddie-land, as others have said. If I go back even futher, what first attracted me to Freddie's voice is that it was so clear and resonant. Many rock singers, especially when they do shouty singing, are hard to understand. Freddie's voice was always clear, no matter what he sang.
For example, QE was the first time I heard Stone Cold Crazy. I had NO idea what Jeff Soto was singing and I figured that was just the nature of the song because the lyrics are sung so fast. Then I heard the orignal with Freddie and suddenly knew what the song was about!
People call MM a mimic like it's a bad thing. One thing that jumps out as I've been exploring Queen's deeper catalogue is how many different styles of music they did -- and did well. These days, whenever I hear someone say that some song sounds like Queen or sounds Queen-influenced, I want to laugh because I think you can pick any song by any artist and probably find a Queen song that is similar!
And it's not just instrumental part of Queen's music that varied widely. Freddie also changed his voice to fit what he was singing. For example, if you take the songs Freddie sang on Sheer Heart Attack, a casual listener probably wouldn't realize that it was the same singer unless they were told in advance and were listening for similarities. I think any singer that wants to tackle the variety in Queen's catalogue needs to have a bit of a chameleon voice.
Re Nessun Dorma, MM is self-taught and has never had professional voice lessons or vocal coaching. He said he taught himself opera from watching "Pavarotti Masterclass" videos on YouTube.
Civil reply for civil reply, MM is not bad, especially when he sings Nessun Dorma, an aria which I suspect he couldn't sing without professional advice and help.The only thing that separates us is whom we prefer as Queen vocalist, a controversial guest singer or a guest singer endowed with the ability to mimic voices, as he himself said. Or are we worlds apart?[/QUOTE]
Nope, I agree with you. After a certain minimum level of singing ability, I think it's all just personal preference whether someone prefers one singer over another. Being the best technical singer with the biggest range, etc., doesn't mean squat to anyone except a small cadre of vocal experts who like to dissect singing to the Nth degree.
It's like those scifi nerd battles over which is better, Star Trek or Star Wars. People who are firmly in one camp or the other will NEVER be swayed. Many people like both. Others hate both. Then there are those who say the new Battlestar Galactica beats both of them. Period. LOL.
I like MM because I love the Queen sound and his voice takes me Freddie-land, as others have said. If I go back even futher, what first attracted me to Freddie's voice is that it was so clear and resonant. Many rock singers, especially when they do shouty singing, are hard to understand. Freddie's voice was always clear, no matter what he sang.
For example, QE was the first time I heard Stone Cold Crazy. I had NO idea what Jeff Soto was singing and I figured that was just the nature of the song because the lyrics are sung so fast. Then I heard the orignal with Freddie and suddenly knew what the song was about!
People call MM a mimic like it's a bad thing. One thing that jumps out as I've been exploring Queen's deeper catalogue is how many different styles of music they did -- and did well. These days, whenever I hear someone say that some song sounds like Queen or sounds Queen-influenced, I want to laugh because I think you can pick any song by any artist and probably find a Queen song that is similar!
And it's not just instrumental part of Queen's music that varied widely. Freddie also changed his voice to fit what he was singing. For example, if you take the songs Freddie sang on Sheer Heart Attack, a casual listener probably wouldn't realize that it was the same singer unless they were told in advance and were listening for similarities. I think any singer that wants to tackle the variety in Queen's catalogue needs to have a bit of a chameleon voice.
Re Nessun Dorma, MM is self-taught and has never had professional voice lessons or vocal coaching. He said he taught himself opera from watching "Pavarotti Masterclass" videos on YouTube.