[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

This thread sounds like people 20 years ago saying "who cares about gay people"

50 years ago saying "who cares about black people"

100 years ago saying "who cares about women"

Dominion over animals ... a biblical idea that most people still adhere to today.

One day our race will look back at the time when we killed animals as a dark time.

There is absolutely no rational reason for any human to have to live at the expense of an animal. Money is a human construct, and there are plenty of alternatives available.

Rosa Parks in 1955 is the animal rights movement of today. They are doing excellent work. But unfortunately it will be decades before the average joe realizes it.[/QUOTE]

I find it ironic and equal parts amusing and annoying that you so often pontificate about "binary thinking" but are almost certainly the worst offender. The majority of this thread addresses the frequently contemptible PETA, not personal beliefs on animal rights. Any extrapolation to that has arisen in your head.

The comparison with intellectual, moral and ethical errors of the past is fair but ultimately limited. We owe the animals we co-opt quality lives with all necessary considerations for physical, psychological and emotional health. Where we have failed and continue to fail at that we are wrong as we have been wrong in the past. But 'equality' as you see it is a human construct as well. Nature's view of equality is one reflected in an infinite circle where every element gives and takes with a collective wisdom that should inspire nothing but awe and humility. And if there is anything militant animal rights organizations are short on it's humility. All those inflated self worshipping heads up all those vegan asses.

I despair for any future generations that have so disconnected from the natural world that they might look upon the killing of animals as "dark". Thankfully I'll be dead before we fully 'evolve' into eating in vitro beef and chicken. Only PETA and their ilk would be so egocentric to decide that it's better not to live at all than it is to live and die at the time of human choosing. But when a fox eats a mouse on his timetable they're wet with joy over the beauty of it all. They're largely fucking lunatics whose love is for themselves, projected narrowly onto animals they see in their own image .