Live at Wembley camera edit

[QUOTE] [b]A Word In Your Ear wrote:[/b]

I suppose if you want to watch more Freddie buy the original Wembley DVD & just watch the "Freddie cam" option.[/QUOTE]

Dunno about 'more' Freddie. Longer Freddie maybe, which I guess would by default have to mean more.

One of the biggest draws of Queen's live shows was Freddie's control and command of the audience. Of course the DVD doesn't have to ALL be about that but the way it's edited this aspect is completely missing.

As good as Queen's performance at Live Aid was, I suspect the television audience's opinion of it may have been reduced if half the time was spent looking at the back of Roger. Just seems a shame that such a crucial element of the show e.g Freddie's command of the crowd is almost completely removed by the editing.

Also Radio Ga Ga is ruined, there's not one decent sustained double-hand-clap shot of the audience throughout the whole song. It's madness. If any song edits itself visually - it's that one. Yet again rather than 10 seconds plus of the crowd we get a couple of seconds then a cut away then a shot of the drummer, then Freddie, then a cut away, then the crowd, then Brian....the visual impact of the crowd double hand-clapping wasn't really there. We saw it but only as one of a series of cutaways.

Excuse me but i see absolutly nothing wrong in keeping balance in the camera angles. Me as a drummer, enjoy a lot of the camera work at Live Aid and Wembley, but it would be plain retarded to ask more and more Roger shoots just because of it. I'm sorry but you seem to be a little obssesed with Freddie.

My only complaint with Gavin Taylor's direction is that there wasn't more 'front-on' shots. e.g. there's loads of camera angles from behind the members - looking at their backs.

I was at Brixton when Brian's gig was videoed and I remember, other than the crane camera, there was just ONE camera at the back of the stalls shooting 'front-on'. Notice all the other cameras are basically looking up members noses at steep angles or are side on (like on the Backing singers).

NONE OF THIS detracts from the quality performances of course!!!

[QUOTE] [b]Hugowan wrote:[/b]

Excuse me but i see absolutly nothing wrong in keeping balance in the camera angles. Me as a drummer, enjoy a lot of the camera work at Live Aid and Wembley, but it would be plain retarded to ask more and more Roger shoots just because of it. I'm sorry but you seem to be a little obssesed with Freddie.[/QUOTE]


Just saying you get no real sense of Freddie's performance.. Not sure how this makes me "obsessed". Discussion will tend to be about one or more band members here. It is kind of a theme in this place. Strange and obsessive i know.

I don't know, I find the so-called boring shots of John and Roger quite interesting. I just like seeing what everyone is doing at certain moments, and Wembley, for me, does an excellent job of that. I don't even mind if the angles are kind of odd. That's just my opinion, though.

[QUOTE] [b]earwig wrote:[/b]

My only complaint with Gavin Taylor's direction is that there wasn't more 'front-on' shots. e.g. there's loads of camera angles from behind the members - looking at their backs.


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I agree on that. That's also my only complain.

When Freddie is in front of the stage (that part that's added to the front of the stage, but missing from Budapest stage) there's no camera angles from the front. It's always filmed: a) from the sides b) from the back.

A good example of what i'm saying is Brian's solo in Bohemian Rhapsody. It's filmed from the back, and them 2 or 3 seconds in the end from the side. There's no front camera angles.

Although there are cameras in front of the stage (4 if i remember what Gavin says in the DVD documentary), they are only used for wide shots, not close ups.

[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

One of the issues with earls court 77 visuals is that camera angles do not change for minutes on end in some songs.[/QUOTE]

... on the version we have. It's an edit, for whatever reason.

Does anyone know if the individual angles still exist? Haven't seen them in documentaries.

[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]

I don't know, I find the so-called boring shots of John and Roger quite interesting. I just like seeing what everyone is doing at certain moments, and Wembley, for me, does an excellent job of that. I don't even mind if the angles are kind of odd. That's just my opinion, though.[/QUOTE]

Yeah maybe I was wrong to use 'boring' to describe Roger's shots. But I still think they're unnecessarily frequent at times, as is the camera changes in general.

[QUOTE] [b]Snackpot wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]A Word In Your Ear wrote:[/b]

Also Radio Ga Ga is ruined, there's not one decent sustained double-hand-clap shot of the audience throughout the whole song. It's madness. If any song edits itself visually - it's that one. Yet again rather than 10 seconds plus of the crowd we get a couple of seconds then a cut away then a shot of the drummer, then Freddie, then a cut away, then the crowd, then Brian....the visual impact of the crowd double hand-clapping wasn't really there. We saw it but only as one of a series of cutaways.[/QUOTE]

The first night show of Wembley has a decent crowd shot of the clappng during Radio Gaga.